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[QUOTE=robreedwrites;1866493]I think it's supposed to be the Kasper issues and the Crew.
EDIT: Yeah, it's the Kasper issues of Black Panther and then the seven issues of the Crew.
[URL="http://www.amazon.com/Black-Panther-Christopher-Priest-Collection/dp/1302900587/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1458085148&sr=8-4&keywords=black+panther+priest+complete"]http://www.amazon.com/Black-Panther-Christopher-Priest-Collection/dp/1302900587/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1458085148&sr=8-4&keywords=black+panther+priest+complete[/URL][/QUOTE]
The Crew needs to be revisited in comics ASAP.
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[QUOTE=MoneySpider;1866878]Here's a video of Nicole Beharie playing crazy, from the movie: "Woman Thou Art Loosed: On The Seventh Day"
[video=youtube;nO16HIfKgX8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO16HIfKgX8[/video]
If not a Dora Milaje, maybe she could play the Deadly Nightshade.[/QUOTE]
Well damn, that was pretty convincing...
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[QUOTE=Hypestyle;1866886]The Crew needs to be revisited in comics ASAP.[/QUOTE]
To date, the only reference to that team has been a brief glimpse of them during Pak's War Machine run.
David Liss was going to bring back Kasper, but his run ended before he had a chance.
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1866892]Well damn, that was pretty convincing...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, she definitely look crazy....but she still fine AF.
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[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1866788]I almost hope she doesn't get it. Not because she couldn't handle the role, but because I find it disgusting how adults hate on that child. By all accounts both Smith kids are intelligent, well behaved, and good natured kids, but all I see is a bunch of grown ass people criticizing every little thing they do.[/QUOTE]
They criticize the kids by proxy just to get to Will and Jada.
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[QUOTE=Victor Freeman;1866790]I'll be back full time for this. My "hiatus" is over. :)[/QUOTE]
My bro, I wish the whole crew from back in the pre-CBR reboot days comes back. :cool:
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[QUOTE=Victor Freeman;1866795]I don't know, because it will sound like I'm trolling. Lol.
But the real talk, I would have her quit the X men and join the Ultimates. I think Al would do her justice and also write from a conscious point of view. None of that Aaron nonsense.[/QUOTE]
My bro, Ororo on the Ultimates would be a dream come true. :cool:
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[QUOTE=Ziggiyy;1866806]Nothing in this world would make me happier than seeing T'Challa and Ororoe back together in the comics. Do I think it's realistic given the synergy between the BP comic and the MCU depiction that will more than likely take precedent? Probably not, which is why I submitted my Monica Rambeua theory as a potential "filler" for at role..
However
I'd like to theorize on how Coates would bring the two back together. Obviously there would have to be forgiveness granted from both respective parties. I would also like it if were something that kind of simmered in the background for the first couple issues, maybe even throughout the duration of "season 1" before becoming a fully fledged coupling in season 2. I'd like to see that they both genuinely have missed each other, I would like for T'Challa to have really grown and matured past the emasculation he was subject to during Hickman's run and for Ororoe to truly respect how he has truly and rightfully regained the respect and authority of the Wakandan populace after the events of "Nation Beneath Our Feet". I would also like for T'Challa to admit that annulling the marriage so suddenly and swiftly was a mistake, I could see a scene similar to Priest's run, where T'Challa admits how weary he was from certain events, perhaps even revealing to her the "time reset" and her truly listening and understanding as ONLY she could.
I believe it is important to stress that these two are supposed to be soul mates, they've known each other since they were children and were each other's first loves. That type of love doesn't die, it can be buried, it can be hidden, but it can NEVER be fully extinguished. I want to see healing, friendship, and romantic rekindling BEFORE I see reconciliation. I would love to see a scene from Ororoe's perspective on just how much her time with T'Challa meant to her. Remembering fondly times like these
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From T'Challa's perspective I'd like to see him reminiscing on the times Storm had his back. How she supported him early in the union, how she allowed herself to take a backseat (so to speak) from being a leading member of the X-Men to the wife of a King. A woman who would give up her established life to take on the mantle of Wakandan Queen is NO gesture to take for granted. I would like for T'Challa to rediscover the value of his feelings and to embrace that loving a woman only makes him in turn a better, more determined King.
In short, T'Challa and Ororoe's reconciliation should be based upon respect, forgiveness, and the love that can only be described as Agape. In this manner should they ever again be torn apart, it would only be in the definition that Scott and Jean or Peter or Mary Jane are torn apart, for specific soap opera story reasons with the understanding that these two are, through the ups and downs, conquered nations and destroyed universes, MEANT to be[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ekie;1866837]Their children.
They have 2 from alt universes. How about a stroy where either one or both are in trouble and maybe even lost in the end. But during the fight to save that child or both T'challa and Storm regain their bond/love. Since they are just alt kids I think it's ok to lose one or two and then have the real T'challa and Storm maybe have a child down the road.[/QUOTE]
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There's a Tiger God... :| had no idea..
I knew about some of the other ones like the Ape God but this is new for me thought it was cool
[IMG]http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111168697/5071315-new+avengers+%282015-%29+007-015.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1866920]My bro, I wish the whole crew from back in the pre-CBR reboot days comes back. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Same though I'm going to start posting more again.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1866920]My bro, I wish the whole crew from back in the pre-CBR reboot days comes back. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Whatever happened to Flex Hectic?
I didn't agree with a good amount of stuff he said at the time, but in then end...he was right on the money.
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[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1866916]To date, the only reference to that team has been a brief glimpse of them during Pak's War Machine run.
David Liss was going to bring back Kasper, but his run ended before he had a chance.
Yeah, she definitely look crazy....but she still fine AF.[/QUOTE]
I vow to bring back [I]the Crew[/I] someday if no one else does.
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[QUOTE=Victor Freeman;1866795]I don't know, because it will sound like I'm trolling. Lol.
But the real talk, I would have her quit the X men and join the Ultimates. I think Al would do her justice and also write from a conscious point of view. None of that Aaron nonsense.[/QUOTE]
Though I'd be cool with Storm doing double duty with the Ultimates (hell triple duty with the Avengers while she's at it), I don't think Storm should ever quit the X-Men. They're her family too and the idea to be to add rather than take anything away. And that's especially in a time like this when the mutants are having such a difficult time (though really when are the X-Men not having a difficult time). With no Xavier, Cyclops, or Wolverine Storms kinda left holding the pieces together.
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[QUOTE=Moose100;1866841]Thats interesting. Could it be that they are running around in this post SW universe? Or is it they are from a future timeline?[/QUOTE]
All their children are from future timelines, but Kymera at least was last seen in the 616 as she never returned to her future. She's only confirmed to be Storms daughter... but I think we can make a pretty good educated guess that she's BPs daughter.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1866928]My bro, Ororo on the Ultimates would be a dream come true. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Not for me, it'd bring down my enjoyment of that down greatly
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1866749]Ever the optimist eh. :)[/QUOTE]
For the movies, kinda. Nothing crazy or suspicious has come out, but I remain cautious.
As for the comics...well...
[IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/MyzfERo9SqG1G/giphy-downsized-large.gif[/IMG]
...I'm on wait-and-see mode on that one.
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[QUOTE=Ziggiyy;1866806]Nothing in this world would make me happier than seeing T'Challa and Ororoe back together in the comics. Do I think it's realistic given the synergy between the BP comic and the MCU depiction that will more than likely take precedent? Probably not, which is why I submitted my Monica Rambeua theory as a potential "filler" for at role..
However
I'd like to theorize on how Coates would bring the two back together. Obviously there would have to be forgiveness granted from both respective parties. I would also like it if were something that kind of simmered in the background for the first couple issues, maybe even throughout the duration of "season 1" before becoming a fully fledged coupling in season 2. I'd like to see that they both genuinely have missed each other, I would like for T'Challa to have really grown and matured past the emasculation he was subject to during Hickman's run and for Ororoe to truly respect how he has truly and rightfully regained the respect and authority of the Wakandan populace after the events of "Nation Beneath Our Feet". I would also like for T'Challa to admit that annulling the marriage so suddenly and swiftly was a mistake, I could see a scene similar to Priest's run, where T'Challa admits how weary he was from certain events, perhaps even revealing to her the "time reset" and her truly listening and understanding as ONLY she could.
I believe it is important to stress that these two are supposed to be soul mates, they've known each other since they were children and were each other's first loves. That type of love doesn't die, it can be buried, it can be hidden, but it can NEVER be fully extinguished. I want to see healing, friendship, and romantic rekindling BEFORE I see reconciliation. I would love to see a scene from Ororoe's perspective on just how much her time with T'Challa meant to her. Remembering fondly times like these
[URL=http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/ziggiy1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/59E70F30-1DEA-4349-86AC-C3869635BE61_zpsxtuctuzp.png.html][IMG]http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a614/ziggiy1/Mobile%20Uploads/59E70F30-1DEA-4349-86AC-C3869635BE61_zpsxtuctuzp.png[/IMG][/URL]
From T'Challa's perspective I'd like to see him reminiscing on the times Storm had his back. How she supported him early in the union, how she allowed herself to take a backseat (so to speak) from being a leading member of the X-Men to the wife of a King. A woman who would give up her established life to take on the mantle of Wakandan Queen is NO gesture to take for granted. I would like for T'Challa to rediscover the value of his feelings and to embrace that loving a woman only makes him in turn a better, more determined King.
In short, T'Challa and Ororoe's reconciliation should be based upon respect, forgiveness, and the love that can only be described as Agape. In this manner should they ever again be torn apart, it would only be in the definition that Scott and Jean or Peter or Mary Jane are torn apart, for specific soap opera story reasons with the understanding that these two are, through the ups and downs, conquered nations and destroyed universes, MEANT to be[/QUOTE]
[B]My God.. That could work out beautifully. I would be completely on board with that and really it makes sense to try it again now with so much being focused onto BP. Rh and McDuffie actually treated the characters treat each other with respect and the whole thing was beneficial to both Storms stories and BP. Now would be the best time to try it again especially with the ANAD MU. If Coates did something like this it would be epic if he pulled it off. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Ekie;1866837]Their children.
They have 2 from alt universes. How about a stroy where either one or both are in trouble and maybe even lost in the end. But during the fight to save that child or both T'challa and Storm regain their bond/love. Since they are just alt kids I think it's ok to lose one or two and then have the real T'challa and Storm maybe have a child down the road.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1867132][B]My God.. That could work out beautifully. I would be completely on board with that and really it makes sense to try it again now with so much being focused onto BP. Rh and McDuffie actually treated the characters treat each other with respect and the whole thing was beneficial to both Storms stories and BP. Now would be the best time to try it again especially with the ANAD MU. If Coates did something like this it would be epic if he pulled it off. [/B][/QUOTE]
I think this the last time to try something like that and drag T'challa back to the past. The ship has sailed. It was overall not a popular move when they first did it, didn't get the support it needed from ALL of Marvel comics.... why would they bring up that negativity all over again when the character is about to blow? There is nothing to gain with Storm at this point. It would boost Storm, not T'challa. T'challa doesn't need her anymore.
And in story/on panel wise... the "lust" has been 100% one sided since the divorce. Storm ain't pining over T'challa anywhere on panel from my memory. T'challa is the one telling her which relationship to not get in, telling her she will always be his queen, showing up for late night end of the world booty calls, allowing her to enter Wakanda again... all T'challa. All one sided.
Has Storm showed one ounce of remorse on panel over what Namor did? Anything? I mean, she showed up to help or whatever during AvX and T'challa told her to GTFO.
Storm moved on and started her rebound relationship with Logan 2 seconds after the anullment. And I think she is with Forge now right?
And yes, of course, meta wise, that is because the X-office has control over Storm and have no love for T'challa so you don't see any of those feelings. But, if its no on panel, it didn't happen so that is moot.
People keep talking abotu how weak and milquetoast or whatever stupid word it is for T'challa to mentally break and cry because he coudln't kill a billion people... pining and crawling back to Storm everytime he has an excuse is 100x more pathetic.
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[QUOTE=Ekie;1866837]Their children.
They have 2 from alt universes. How about a stroy where either one or both are in trouble and maybe even lost in the end. But during the fight to save that child or both T'challa and Storm regain their bond/love. Since they are just alt kids I think it's ok to lose one or two and then have the real T'challa and Storm maybe have a child down the road.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't have a problem if they did this...
But only if it didn't end up with them being back together. Just ended with a mutual, bury the hatchet, adult ending to the relationship. Both admit their faults, how it could have ended a different way in a different timeline, one last hug, and good bye forever and move the F on.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1867304]I think this the last time to try something like that and drag T'challa back to the past. The ship has sailed. It was overall not a popular move when they first did it, didn't get the support it needed from ALL of Marvel comics.... why would they bring up that negativity all over again when the character is about to blow? There is nothing to gain with Storm at this point. It would boost Storm, not T'challa. T'challa doesn't need her anymore.
And in story/on panel wise... the "lust" has been 100% one sided since the divorce. Storm ain't pining over T'challa anywhere on panel from my memory. T'challa is the one telling her which relationship to not get in, telling her she will always be his queen, showing up for late night end of the world booty calls, allowing her to enter Wakanda again... all T'challa. All one sided.
Has Storm showed one ounce of remorse on panel over what Namor did? Anything? I mean, she showed up to help or whatever during AvX and T'challa told her to GTFO.
Storm moved on and started her rebound relationship with Logan 2 seconds after the anullment. And I think she is with Forge now right?
And yes, of course, meta wise, that is because the X-office has control over Storm and have no love for T'challa so you don't see any of those feelings. But, if its no on panel, it didn't happen so that is moot.
People keep talking abotu how weak and milquetoast or whatever stupid word it is for T'challa to mentally break and cry because he coudln't kill a billion people... pining and crawling back to Storm everytime he has an excuse is 100x more pathetic.[/QUOTE]
I enjoyed the BP/Storm relationship and would be entirely open to seeing them try it again.
That said, I have to admit it's PROBABLY not a good idea. In order for it to really be handled as well as it deserves, it requires both franchises to really be on board. And even if at any given time that's the case, there's no gurantee that down the line that won't change. Maybe the X-Men writers might decide they want Storm with Wolverine, or maybe the Black Panther writers will decide they want him with Monica Lynn. Of course a shift in direction can happen with any couple, but in the case of Storm and T'Challa it's twice as likely to happen because of the logisteics of 2 seperate franchises at work. It's simpler and frankly more sensible to have the character involved with people in their own books in their own franchises.
That could even be an issue with say Monica Rambeu and T'Challa if Coates in theory wanted them to be together, as some have shipped for. Right now Monica is free and clear but who is to say down the line Ewing wouldn't have designs for Monica to be with Blue Marvel, or maybe even her reuniting with Voodoo down the line. That's always an issue with another super hero, even one that isn't at the status of a Storm. Often getting your own Lois Lane is your best option. Though even that's not necessarily a lock as we're seeing with Stark and Mary Jane.
I'll say this about Storm moving on though.... I can't fault her for that because she was in the position of being dumped. When you're the one that didn't have a say in the relationship ending, you move on because frankly you don't have a choice but to move on. You don't have a say in the matter. Though I suppose the time runs out booty call did awaken a few old feelings... it's not like she turned him down.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1867307]I wouldn't have a problem if they did this...
But only if it didn't end up with them being back together. Just ended with a mutual, bury the hatchet, adult ending to the relationship. Both admit their faults, how it could have ended a different way in a different timeline, one last hug, and good bye forever and move the F on.[/QUOTE]
The way Claremont set them up (and Priest sort of followed suit), they had this love that was never actually supposed to be actualized because they both came from different worlds. It was always there but they never could act upon it... part of me wonders if maybe they should have kept it that way. Never actually have them hook up and be together, but always have that connection between them whenever they interact.
Sometimes it's better if a couple NOT get together. They've teases Wolverine and Jean for decades... Claremont himself one said at the end of the universe Logan and Jean would be waiting for each other in his mind. And the sexual tension or whatever was always there... but I can't help but think if they actually did get together it would kill the fun. Having it just out of reach I think in some ways can be more interesting. Sometimes at least.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1867339]The way Claremont set them up (and Priest sort of followed suit), they had this love that was never actually supposed to be actualized because they both came from different worlds. It was always there but they never could act upon it... part of me wonders if maybe they should have kept it that way. Never actually have them hook up and be together, but always have that connection between them whenever they interact.
Sometimes it's better if a couple NOT get together. They've teases Wolverine and Jean for decades... Claremont himself one said at the end of the universe Logan and Jean would be waiting for each other in his mind. And the sexual tension or whatever was always there... but I can't help but think if they actually did get together it would kill the fun. Having it just out of reach I think in some ways can be more interesting. Sometimes at least.[/QUOTE]
IMO, unless Storm's coming over on a permanent basis (which I wouldn't be against), she should be kept firmly at arm's length.
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[QUOTE=MrHashasheen;1867402]IMO, unless Storm's coming over on a permanent basis (which I wouldn't be against), she should be kept firmly at arm's length.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
You can't do this break up stuff constantly with T'challa because whoever he marries is not only his wife, but a damn QUEEN.
Needs to be someone whoever writes Black Panther has 100% control over.
Speaking of Queens... I wonder how Shuri feels about Storm......
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Question to all:
When Black Panther debuts his ongoing, would you be okay with it being spoiled on a separate thread here?
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[QUOTE=Ziggiyy;1866806]Nothing in this world would make me happier than seeing T'Challa and Ororoe back together in the comics. Do I think it's realistic given the synergy between the BP comic and the MCU depiction that will more than likely take precedent? Probably not, which is why I submitted my Monica Rambeua theory as a potential "filler" for at role..
However
I'd like to theorize on how Coates would bring the two back together. Obviously there would have to be forgiveness granted from both respective parties. I would also like it if were something that kind of simmered in the background for the first couple issues, maybe even throughout the duration of "season 1" before becoming a fully fledged coupling in season 2. I'd like to see that they both genuinely have missed each other, I would like for T'Challa to have really grown and matured past the emasculation he was subject to during Hickman's run and for Ororoe to truly respect how he has truly and rightfully regained the respect and authority of the Wakandan populace after the events of "Nation Beneath Our Feet". I would also like for T'Challa to admit that annulling the marriage so suddenly and swiftly was a mistake, I could see a scene similar to Priest's run, where T'Challa admits how weary he was from certain events, perhaps even revealing to her the "time reset" and her truly listening and understanding as ONLY she could.
I believe it is important to stress that these two are supposed to be soul mates, they've known each other since they were children and were each other's first loves. That type of love doesn't die, it can be buried, it can be hidden, but it can NEVER be fully extinguished. I want to see healing, friendship, and romantic rekindling BEFORE I see reconciliation. I would love to see a scene from Ororoe's perspective on just how much her time with T'Challa meant to her. Remembering fondly times like these
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From T'Challa's perspective I'd like to see him reminiscing on the times Storm had his back. How she supported him early in the union, how she allowed herself to take a backseat (so to speak) from being a leading member of the X-Men to the wife of a King. A woman who would give up her established life to take on the mantle of Wakandan Queen is NO gesture to take for granted. I would like for T'Challa to rediscover the value of his feelings and to embrace that loving a woman only makes him in turn a better, more determined King.
In short, T'Challa and Ororoe's reconciliation should be based upon respect, forgiveness, and the love that can only be described as Agape. In this manner should they ever again be torn apart, it would only be in the definition that Scott and Jean or Peter or Mary Jane are torn apart, for specific soap opera story reasons with the understanding that these two are, through the ups and downs, conquered nations and destroyed universes, MEANT to be[/QUOTE]
Love this idea. And it goes back to something I think you mentioned: an opportunity to acknowledged what happened, have each side says their piece, and ultimately bury the hatchet and possibly start anew. This idea also works regardless of whether or not they end up together down the line. That would be a great move.
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[QUOTE=Maximum;1867448]Question to all:
When Black Panther debuts his ongoing, would you be okay with it being spoiled on a separate thread here?[/QUOTE]
I imagine someone will make a Black Panther #1 SPOILER thread
I tend to make them quite often actually lol
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1867304]Has Storm showed one ounce of remorse on panel over what Namor did? Anything? I mean, she showed up to help or whatever during AvX and T'challa told her to GTFO.
Storm moved on and started her rebound relationship with Logan 2 seconds after the anullment. And I think she is with Forge now right?
[B]And yes, of course, meta wise, that is because the X-office has control over Storm and have no love for T'challa[/B] so you don't see any of those feelings. But, if its no on panel, it didn't happen so that is moot. [/QUOTE]
You answered your own question. These characters don't write themselves, and we all know what the X-office feels about the marriage and possibly about T'Challa and the BP mythos as well.
With that said, Ziggiyy's scenario will give Storm the opportunity to address those issues that you mentioned in a mature, respectful way. Plus, it allows the opportunity for full reconciliation in a very positive manner, instead of what we currently have now: the need to moving on purely because fans have no choice but to accept a breakup done in a very unprofessional and immature manner.
[QUOTE][B]People keep talking abotu how weak and milquetoast or whatever stupid word it is for T'challa to mentally break and cry because he coudln't kill a billion people[/B]... pining and crawling back to Storm everytime he has an excuse is 100x more pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Briefly...you should know by now there was far more to it than what you mentioned. Various users, myself included, were quite detailed on why we had issues with that scenario.
Nonetheless, I do feel that T'Challa and Ororo reconciling and then leaving the door open for something later down the line will be well-received, especially today. These are far different times than back then, as both characters are both in major stories and movies. I'd wager that the general public would be quite open to it, in fact.
Of course, you'll have the trolls and haters, but that's part of the game. Big deal.
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[QUOTE=Maximum;1867448]Question to all:
When Black Panther debuts his ongoing, would you be okay with it being spoiled on a separate thread here?[/QUOTE]
Might as well debate it here. This is a BP thread after all.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1867408]Agreed.
You can't do this break up stuff constantly with T'challa because whoever he marries is not only his wife, but a damn QUEEN.
Needs to be someone whoever writes Black Panther has 100% control over.
[B]Speaking of Queens... I wonder how Shuri feels about Storm......[/B][/QUOTE]
She probably wasn't her biggest fan around the time New Avengers happened.
However, I can see her shifting her stance if T'Challa and Ororo do reconcile, if purely for her brother's sake.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1867132][B]My God.. That could work out beautifully. I would be completely on board with that and really it makes sense to try it again now with so much being focused onto BP. Rh and McDuffie actually treated the characters treat each other with respect and the whole thing was beneficial to both Storms stories and BP. Now would be the best time to try it again especially with the ANAD MU. If Coates did something like this it would be epic if he pulled it off. [/B][/QUOTE]
Exactly. If not now, then when?
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1867408]
Needs to be someone whoever writes Black Panther has 100% control over.
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This is the true sticking point, IMO.
Otherwise you'll just have the character in question yoinked back to serve the needs of the original franchise.
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1867489]Exactly. If not now, then when?[/QUOTE]
Could be how bout never and just let the boat sail away into the sunset
There can be tension the few times they meet (good or bad, whatever) but as far as having any focus on Storm... good bye
Similar to Rogue/Gambit like stuff.
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[QUOTE=Vic Vega;1867518]This is the true sticking point, IMO.
Otherwise you'll just have the character in question yoinked back to serve the needs of the original franchise.[/QUOTE]
Yep.
and a King may need an extraordinary wife... that doesn't mean that extraordinary wife can't come from actual Wakanda....
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1867304]I think this the last time to try something like that and drag T'challa back to the past. The ship has sailed. It was overall not a popular move when they first did it, didn't get the support it needed from ALL of Marvel comics.... why would they bring up that negativity all over again when the character is about to blow? There is nothing to gain with Storm at this point. It would boost Storm, not T'challa. T'challa doesn't need her anymore.
And in story/on panel wise... the "lust" has been 100% one sided since the divorce. Storm ain't pining over T'challa anywhere on panel from my memory. T'challa is the one telling her which relationship to not get in, telling her she will always be his queen, showing up for late night end of the world booty calls, allowing her to enter Wakanda again... all T'challa. All one sided.
Has Storm showed one ounce of remorse on panel over what Namor did? Anything? I mean, she showed up to help or whatever during AvX and T'challa told her to GTFO.
Storm moved on and started her rebound relationship with Logan 2 seconds after the anullment. And I think she is with Forge now right?
And yes, of course, meta wise, that is because the X-office has control over Storm and have no love for T'challa so you don't see any of those feelings. But, if its no on panel, it didn't happen so that is moot.
People keep talking abotu how weak and milquetoast or whatever stupid word it is for T'challa to mentally break and cry because he coudln't kill a billion people... pining and crawling back to Storm everytime he has an excuse is 100x more pathetic.[/QUOTE]
[B]ITs an opportunity to fix the poor S#@$ty excuse we got for a ending to the marriage as well as have them handle it in a mature manner. It would be cool if it was able to be played out so that both offices were on board and it allowed them to be together again, but if not then oh well, its more about getting some actual closure in a professional manner rather then have the marriage end in some BS poorly written event that was Crap through and through and pretty much had to make up a reason for them to break up that completely went against everything seen on panel thus far between their interactions.
And why your bringing up the crying thing is beyond me, atleast acknowledge that the real issue posters had about it instead of trying to use it as a jab, regardless, this wouldn't be him crawling back to her, but more so a chance to actually have the issue be addressed, fleshed out and put behind them, and if they did end up getting together (if both offices were on board) then atleast there would be respect for the characters on both ends. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Vic Vega;1867518]This is the true sticking point, IMO.
Otherwise you'll just have the character in question yoinked back to serve the needs of the original franchise.[/QUOTE]
And that issue is especially problematic if the character in question is looking for a wife, let alone a queen.
Two characters dating is one thing... they can break up and part ways relatively clean. But bring in marriage, with politics on top of that, adds so much baggage if things decide to go a different direction, which in this case did happen.
If BP writers are looking for a wife and queen, they probably should look to a character within their own franchise. If nothing else I think marvel and future BP writers in particular should consider that moving foreward IF they do decide to go that way with T'Challa again. You don't want the character to go through this again, but unless the BP franchise has relative control over the character there's no way to guratee that it won't.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1867557][B]ITs an opportunity to fix the poor S#@$ty excuse we got for a ending to the marriage as well as have them handle it in a mature manner. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, it would be cool if it was settled like adults and not hood rats. But... no one really cares about it anymore honestly. It only comes up in this thread. Hell, the hood rat stuff wasn't even in the main AvX book, but in the off shoot "versus" book. The issue is behind them on panel. T'challa forgave her in the Wolverine book.
I just don't see the point now. Its been YEARS since that issue. Seems time to move on and move forward and not move back towards that shit show.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1867579]Yeah, it would be cool if it was settled like adults and not hood rats. [B]But... no one really cares about it anymore honestly. It only comes up in this thread.[/B] Hell, the hood rat stuff wasn't even in the main AvX book, but in the off shoot "versus" book. The issue is behind them on panel. T'challa forgave her in the Wolverine book.
I just don't see the point now. Its been YEARS since that issue. Seems time to move on and move forward and not move back towards that shit show.[/QUOTE]
Who cares what others think?
Of course it is brought up here. Obviously because T'Challa was involved, but also because historically BP fans as a whole have been the marriage's biggest supporters. Only other place the marriage might brought up is in the Storm thread due to Storm's involvement. Sure, there are those that don't like it, but are those that don't mind it or liked it for what it was.
The point is, the reconciliation proposal actually allows a great way for the fan base to positively move on from not only the breakup but even AvX itself. That story was a severe stain to the BP franchise and is still considered cannon in the ANAD. Their fight, though not in the main book, is still very well known because of what happens.
The proposal would also be far better and more in-depth than what we got in the Wolverine book.
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1867629]Who cares what others think? [/quote]
Marvel, obviously [quote]
The point is, the reconciliation proposal actually allows a great way for the fan base to positively move on from not only the breakup but even AvX itself.[/quote]
The vast majority of fans, both BP and Storm fans, have moved on. Hell, even X fans have moved on from AvX and they hang onto things with a death grip.
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That story was a severe stain to the BP franchise and is still considered cannon in the ANAD. [/quote]
WAS is the key word. And the strain lasted like 6 months before even the comics moved on from it.
As of now, there is no strain on the BP franchise. It is flying like a GD wakanda invented quinjet.
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The proposal would also be far better and more in-depth than what we got in the Wolverine book.[/QUOTE]
i never said it wasnt. Just that I don't believe it is necessary because it is past time to just move on (like Marvel did) and focus on other stuff.
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[QUOTE=robreedwrites;1867656][URL="http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-announces-expansive-black-panther-merchandising-program"]http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-announces-expansive-black-panther-merchandising-program[/URL][/QUOTE]
I need the mask and claws
Son has hulk mask/fists, has Mjolnir, has Iron Man Mask, has Cap Shield...
IT IS TIME FOR BLACK PANTHER TO JOIN THE BRAWL
(seriously he beats the shit out of me with the hammer)