The black panther we have now is the Black Panther we are probably going to get which is great imo
KOD powers (detailed someday soon I hope). Superhuman speed, strength and durability.
No more peak human crap.
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The black panther we have now is the Black Panther we are probably going to get which is great imo
KOD powers (detailed someday soon I hope). Superhuman speed, strength and durability.
No more peak human crap.
[QUOTE=neohuey89;866158]Ultimate Black Panther was Steve Rogers in disguise, covering for a bootleg wolverine who couldn't talk and wasn't good for much other than being Kazar's sidekick. I seriously doubt they would focus on him. I actually thought his back story was interesting where this wakandan failure could grow into the dangerous king and guide Wakanda into becoming this unbeatable nation, but he was just thrown to the side as soon as they created him.[/QUOTE]
Oh come on he is in a movie, he is not going to be a mute with an animal head or some crack like that. Marvel is nto that dumb
[QUOTE=MouserGrey;865917]What little I know about ultimate T'Challa I don't care for much. But I haven't read any ultimate marvel stuff. They won't decide to use ultimate panther in place of 616 panther when they mash things up in May will they? I think i would puke. Should I like ultimate T'Challa? What specifically should I read to find out?[/QUOTE]
Ultimate BP showed up in Jeff Loeb's Ultimates stories. Ultimates 3 and New Ultimates. Almost everything that anyone liked about 616 T'Challa is gone. He's a mute who has little knuckle claws and that's it. I guess he's supposed to be agile too.
I think maybe Loeb was going for maybe a silent bad-ass like Snake Eyes from GI Joe, but T'Challa ain't supposed to be Snake Eyes.
Having said that, there's [I][B][SIZE=2]way[/SIZE][/B][/I] bigger problems with those stories
South Africa, The Avengers... er uhm The Captain America: Civil War movie set!
Chadwick Boseman: "Listen well Captain America... Wakanda nor any of it's sovereign citizens will sign that Super Hero Registration act!"
Anthony Russo: "CUT!"
Joe Russo: "WAIT, why is he speaking?"
Chadwick Boseman: "What's the problem?"
Anthony Russo: "You're talking!"
Joe Russo: "Yeah, you are supposed to be a mute!"
Chadwick Boseman: "There are lines written in this script here that clearly have me speaking!"
Anthony Russo: "You are supposed to use sign language!"
Joe Russo: "We sent a sign language teacher to train you... Didn't you get the memo?"
Chadwick Boseman: "Is this a joke?"
Anthony Russo: "Just mimic the words with lots of hand gestures and we will cgi them!"
Joe Russo: "We can edit them later and make it as if you are using a primitive language from Wakanda!"
Chadwick Boseman: "And so Captain America speaks Wakandan and will supposedly understand this???"
Anthony Russo: "Are you being difficult?"
Joe Russo: "You people should be grateful that we cast any of you for this film!"
Chadwick Boseman: "YOU PEOPLE!"
Anthony Russo: "I knew we should have cast Chiwetel Ejiofor he is so much more professional than this guy!"
Joe Russo: "Get John Boyega I think they just wrapped on the Star Wars set so he's available!"
Andy Serkis: "When do I kill his daddy?"
Carry on...
[QUOTE=UltimateTy;865961]
70's BP would never have done that to Namor, I didn't want T'challa to be all talk and no action but I'm not sure if I really like what he did.[/QUOTE]
Thing is, none of the 70's versions of these characters would have made any of the decisions that the Illuminati made...
[QUOTE=Ekie;866387]The black panther we have now is the Black Panther we are probably going to get which is great imo
KOD powers (detailed someday soon I hope). Superhuman speed, strength and durability.
No more peak human crap.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
The version that will probably be used, it 616 version--the best version.
The real question is will his marriage to storm be erased?
Also wakanda's destruction?
They can erase the marriage since it really added nothing to him as a character when you think about it
Wakanda will probably be rebuilt in a few issues
[QUOTE=ed2962;866540]Thing is, none of the 70's versions of these characters would have made any of the decisions that the Illuminati made...[/QUOTE]
I don't know about that. I don't think they really did anything wrong until the GS arc
[QUOTE=Ekie;866552]The real question is will his marriage to storm be erased?
Also wakanda's destruction?[/QUOTE]
I hope neither. One, respect Hudlin's run.
Second, Wakanda's destruction opens up a lot of stories, including it being rebuild by T'challa and his genius. They will need him now more then ever. The one thing that gives me pause is a long the same lines. If they need him more then ever then he will be stuck to just defending Wakanda, rather then being on the All-new Avengers. So maybe they should reverse that.
[QUOTE=Ekie;866552]The real question is will his marriage to storm be erased?
Also wakanda's destruction?[/QUOTE]
In the movie? Undoubtedly. They couldn't use Storm even if they wanted to. But even if they could, it would needlessly complicate things. And this is the first( or 2nd) we're seeing of Wakanda. I don't think they'll start with the place in ruins.
[QUOTE=ed2962;866580]In the movie? Undoubtedly. They couldn't use Storm even if they wanted to. But even if they could, it would needlessly complicate things. And this is the first( or 2nd) we're seeing of Wakanda. I don't think they'll start with the place in ruins.[/QUOTE]
They're talking about in the rumored reboot.
I wouldn't mind them retconning the stupid marriage out of comic canon. It added nothing to either character.
[QUOTE=UltimateTy;866570]They can erase the marriage since it really added nothing to him as a character when you think about it
Wakanda will probably be rebuilt in a few issues
I don't know about that. I don't think they really did anything wrong until the GS arc[/QUOTE]
They meant well, but they made poor choices. Not calling the other heroes in the first place. Mind wiping Cap. Doc dabbling with Blood Magic. Fighting with the Great Society instead of teaming up with them.
[QUOTE=Holt;866592]They're talking about in the rumored reboot.
I wouldn't mind them retconning the stupid marriage out of comic canon. It added nothing to either character.[/QUOTE]
Oh, my bad. In that case, I'm indifferent to the marriage, but I agree with the others that rebuilding Wakanda can lead to several interesting stories.
[QUOTE=ed2962;866580]In the movie? Undoubtedly. They couldn't use Storm even if they wanted to. But even if they could, it would needlessly complicate things. And this is the first( or 2nd) we're seeing of Wakanda. I don't think they'll start with the place in ruins.[/QUOTE]
This recton (with the movie in mind) really opens up a chance for Marvel to do some very "hollywood" things with Wakanda and T'challa.
1. It could erase Storm. A character the movie verse can't use. It could also erase Shuri OR make her something other than T'challa's sister as odd as it sounds. Movies need love intrests and I think T'challa will find one in comics soon to tow the line.
2. Wakanda could become something different. It could become culturally mixed along the lines of south Africa making it more pallet-able to Hollywood and be justified as being an alt-universe version which now becomes cannon. I could become less Tech savy. who knows.
Not things I want of course just worries lol reboots are scary yo.
[QUOTE=Ekie;866552]The real question is will his marriage to storm be erased?
Also wakanda's destruction?[/QUOTE]
I doubt either is necessary.
The marriage is already annuled, and most nations which are destroyed magically get rebuilt and repopulated overnight anyways (whether it makens sense or not).
There is not one writer short of Priest that can do anything with the Black Panther/Storm relationship so it's best to erase it from canon to stop all the unnecessary TROLLING with either character and keep it moving!
A long time ago in a galaxy far far away I used to care but all the bad blood between the Black Panther fans and the X-fans makes it absolutely not even worth it for anybody!
Besides... Marvel basically quit the concept as soon as Hudlin was out the door and gave little or no effort to further their relationship so who on staff could take it beyond the standard issue soap opera rinse, dry and repeat stage with a straight face?
What would they say as an excuse if they broke them up yet again later down the line???
As far as Shuri goes most people know my off and on feelings about her but it's safe to say that in the movie verse they cast Chadwick Boseman and it would not be in their best interest to try to fit a younger sister in there before you even established the main hero first who already has an uphill climb to begin with!
In most "Escapism" type stories of sci-fi and or super heroism the bread winners are the solo brooding self absorbed heroes driven by their own indulgence towards vigilant gratification through narcissistic behavioral patterns!
If you want to place a sybling in the mix you have to know that most potential fans are trying to get away from real life large families to experience the vicarious freedom of having few paternal or maternal responsibilities as they go about their knight in shining armor tasks!
You either have the male James Bond type or The Hunger Games female type running the show completely... Try to have a "Who wears the pants in the house" battle of the sexes right there within the movie usually divides the fan base real quick and creates confusion!
Look at how many times decision were made that made fans question if it was T'challa or Shuri calling the shots in Wakanda... They each acted like a sort of duel king and queen set rather than one taking full charge as most monarchies would have one leader do and it was conflicting!
Pick a hero and give them focus or risk losing revenue that you never had access to by default... The buy in for fanboys or fangirls is that you have to choose who gets the most and the best panel time in a short comic book or movie and if you cannot cover them both equally you are technically cheating the least of them in favor of the other!
Chadwick is getting my money and I'm not sure even if they cast Lupita N'yongo as Shuri that I would care as much to invest in that if he has no chance of hooking up with her on screen... If she's Malice then my vicarious taste buds could at least dream about that pairing but a beautiful black woman not on the menu for the hero is a red flag because they are related is a big NOPE!
Like it or not I'm a heterosexual black man married to an African woman and even if there is no actual sex on screen between the leading man and lady (PG-13 perhaps) it would be a total waste to cast a black woman as Shuri knowing that they can't do the deed even if it's only a fantasy... That's my personal demographics with no changing in sight so feed me what I want end of!
NEXT!!!
[QUOTE=ed2962;866540]Thing is, none of the 70's versions of these characters would have made any of the decisions that the Illuminati made...[/QUOTE]
True, thank Bast, the 70's are over:)
[QUOTE=Victor Freeman;866574]I hope neither. One, respect Hudlin's run.
Second, Wakanda's destruction opens up a lot of stories, including it being rebuild by T'challa and his genius. They will need him now more then ever. The one thing that gives me pause is a long the same lines. If they need him more then ever then he will be stuck to just defending Wakanda, rather then being on the All-new Avengers. So maybe they should reverse that.[/QUOTE]
This is why Shuri is so important. Her character takes that load off and moves TChalla into the role of protector and not ruler. Like any super power, Wakanda's interests are worldwide, which would make TChalla a more viable character.
[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;867281]There is not one writer short of Priest that can do anything with the Black Panther/Storm relationship so it's best to erase it from canon to stop all the unnecessary TROLLING with either character and keep it moving!
A long time ago in a galaxy far far away I used to care but all the bad blood between the Black Panther fans and the X-fans makes it absolutely not even worth it for anybody!
Besides... Marvel basically quit the concept as soon as Hudlin was out the door and gave little or no effort to further their relationship so who on staff could take it beyond the standard issue soap opera rinse, dry and repeat stage with a straight face?
What would they say as an excuse if they broke them up yet again later down the line???
As far as Shuri goes most people know my off and on feelings about her but it's safe to say that in the movie verse they cast Chadwick Boseman and it would not be in their best interest to try to fit a younger sister in there before you even established the main hero first who already has an uphill climb to begin with!
In most "Escapism" type stories of sci-fi and or super heroism the bread winners are the solo brooding self absorbed heroes driven by their own indulgence towards vigilant gratification through narcissistic behavioral patterns!
If you want to place a sybling in the mix you have to know that most potential fans are trying to get away from real life large families to experience the vicarious freedom of having few paternal or maternal responsibilities as they go about their knight in shining armor tasks!
You either have the male James Bond type or The Hunger Games female type running the show completely... Try to have a "Who wears the pants in the house" battle of the sexes right there within the movie usually divides the fan base real quick and creates confusion!
Look at how many times decision were made that made fans question if it was T'challa or Shuri calling the shots in Wakanda... They each acted like a sort of duel king and queen set rather than one taking full charge as most monarchies would have one leader do and it was conflicting!
Pick a hero and give them focus or risk losing revenue that you never had access to by default... The buy in for fanboys or fangirls is that you have to choose who gets the most and the best panel time in a short comic book or movie and if you cannot cover them both equally you are technically cheating the least of them in favor of the other!
Chadwick is getting my money and I'm not sure even if they cast Lupita N'yongo as Shuri that I would care as much to invest in that if he has no chance of hooking up with her on screen... If she's Malice then my vicarious taste buds could at least dream about that pairing but a beautiful black woman not on the menu for the hero is a red flag because they are related is a big NOPE!
Like it or not I'm a heterosexual black man married to an African woman and even if there is no actual sex on screen between the leading man and lady (PG-13 perhaps) it would be a total waste to cast a black woman as Shuri knowing that they can't do the deed even if it's only a fantasy... That's my personal demographics with no changing in sight so feed me what I want end of!
NEXT!!![/QUOTE]
You are killing me, Man. But one thing erasing from canon isnt the same as erasing from the memories of fans.
[QUOTE=XPac;867268]I doubt either is necessary.
The marriage is already annuled, and most nations which are destroyed magically get rebuilt and repopulated overnight anyways (whether it makens sense or not).[/QUOTE]
I really did like the marriage though. It worked fine when McDuffie was writing it in the FF but the biggest fubar to me was how Marvel let the X-titles make it a failure :( It just seems silly that Reed and Sue are still pretty much the only high profile marriage in the MU.
I just hope they don't get rid of all of Marvel's storied kingdoms like Wakanda, Atlantis and Latveria. IMO they are what made the MU pretty unique when I was getting into comics as a kid. I would have liked to have seen more writers handle the political part of it like Priest did in Sturm und Drang.
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;867561]I really did like the marriage though. It worked fine when McDuffie was writing it in the FF but the biggest fubar to me was how Marvel let the X-titles make it a failure :( It just seems silly that Reed and Sue are still pretty much the only high profile marriage in the MU.
I just hope they don't get rid of all of Marvel's storied kingdoms like Wakanda, Atlantis and Latveria. IMO they are what made the MU pretty unique when I was getting into comics as a kid. I would have liked to have seen more writers handle the political part of it like Priest did in Sturm und Drang.[/QUOTE]
Sturm und Drang is one of my favorite if not the best panther story out there in my opinion. war between lemuria and wakanda with all the kings thrown in the mix and klaw also acting as a major role in the story. To me, the concept of this story would perfectly fit a live action sequel to the Black Panther movie. Too bad we haven't seen this type of story in over a decade. PRIEST, PLEASE WE NEED YOU!!!!!!!!!! :(
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;867561]I really did like the marriage though. It worked fine when McDuffie was writing it in the FF but the biggest fubar to me was how Marvel let the X-titles make it a failure :( It just seems silly that Reed and Sue are still pretty much the only high profile marriage in the MU.
I just hope they don't get rid of all of Marvel's storied kingdoms like Wakanda, Atlantis and Latveria. IMO they are what made the MU pretty unique when I was getting into comics as a kid. I would have liked to have seen more writers handle the political part of it like Priest did in Sturm und Drang.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dboi654;867645]Sturm und Drang is one of my favorite if not the best panther story out there in my opinion. war between lemuria and wakanda with all the kings thrown in the mix and klaw also acting as a major role in the story. To me, the concept of this story would perfectly fit a live action sequel to the Black Panther movie. Too bad we haven't seen this type of story in over a decade. PRIEST, PLEASE WE NEED YOU!!!!!!!!!! :([/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;867547]This is why Shuri is so important. Her character takes that load off and moves TChalla into the role of protector and not ruler. Like any super power, Wakanda's interests are worldwide, which would make TChalla a more viable character.[/QUOTE]
Three of the best posts I've read so far in this thread for the last few pages. :cool:
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;867908]Three of the best posts I've read so far in this thread for the last few pages. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Thank you Mr. M. While we may not always agree I think we come from the same place of just wanting good stories that don't just resort to a series of rumbles comics. I can understand how some have found elements of Hickman's writing lacking (so far I have no complaints about Doom ;) ) but at least he seems to put a lot of thought and planning behind what he does. IMO he "rescued" the FF characters from Fraction and made them highly relevant to his story. I think he is really putting his cast through a trial by fire and I just hope it all pays off in the end.
What I want from MCU BP is:
Tech:
Ability to climb walls, projectile dampening mesh suit, active camo, anti-metal claws.
Native ability:
Heightened tracking, night vision, extreme agility and reflex (faster than Cap but not nearly as fast as quicksilver), enhanced strength (cap level is fine), advanced scientific acumen (should be able to talk shop with Stark and Banner), pragmatic but moral strategist.
Edit: He can get those energy daggers too, dude has to sell some toys and they look cool.
What is more intriguing about things is that Black Panther stands a greater chance of becoming an A-list character with Chadwick Boseman portraying him on film!
This casting is as good if not better than Wesley Snipes as Blade because it shows a certain level of commitment that has not been seen as far as picking the writer of his solo comic thus far!
Had it been 50 Cent or some other random black male actor this could have been a disaster waiting to happen so it confirms that the movie verse has better intentions for the character overall than the comic book world!
It would be difficult to cast Boseman at this point and then have him stand around behind Thor without doing something important considering his acting abilities and star potential!
Also... I may return to Comic-con this year ending my long standing Marvel fast now that the Black Panther movie is going forward Lol!
Stark: "How the FRAK did you do that?"
Reed: "You have to tell us how you pulled this off this is incredible!"
T'challa: "It was simple... By recalibrating the time space continuum I made it appear that Wakanda was destroyed thus sparing millions of lives so now we have a virtual hidden city on a retro fitted sliding time scale separate from the standard issue canon and continuity!"
Hank: "Get the FRAK out here dude no way!"
T'challa: "I trust as my closest friends none of you will tell anyone of this maneuver!"
Reed: "FRAK it man I don't care what they say you are the smartest man in the Marvel universe and I'm a distant second period!"
Stark: "Three steps ahead of your friends yep I'm sold!"
T'challa: "Just adjust your high frequency digital calendars accordingly and you can sneak off and see me while experiencing an awesome vacation timeshare in Wakanda and return to your normal time frames as you see fit without losing any ticks off the clock!"
[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;867925]What I want from MCU BP is:
Tech:
Ability to climb walls, projectile dampening mesh suit, active camo, anti-metal claws.
Native ability:
Heightened tracking, night vision, extreme agility and reflex (faster than Cap but not nearly as fast as quicksilver), enhanced strength (cap level is fine), advanced scientific acumen (should be able to talk shop with Stark and Banner), pragmatic but moral strategist.
Edit: He can get those energy daggers too, dude has to sell some toys and they look cool.[/QUOTE]
I liked the energy staff he ocasionally busted out on A: EMH as well.
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;867919]Thank you Mr. M. While we may not always agree I think we come from the same place of just wanting good stories that don't just resort to a series of rumbles comics. I can understand how some have found elements of Hickman's writing lacking (so far I have no complaints about Doom ) but at least he seems to put a lot of thought and planning behind what he does. IMO he "rescued" the FF characters from Fraction and made them highly relevant to his story. I think he is really putting his cast through a trial by fire and I just hope it all pays off in the end.[/QUOTE]
My dear friend Iron Maiden, I can't remember disagreeing with anything you've posted in the past or present.
Like yourself, I've found Hickman's handling of the Fantastic Four and Dr Doom to be of an exceedingly high quality and in keeping with their already established characterizations.
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Unfortunately, this level of accurate characterization hasn't been the case with T'Challa or Namor and as such, I genuinely hope that whoever gets to write either one of these characters once Hickman completes his story, does so in a manner that strengthens them as opposed to breaking them upon the rack of plot induced convenience.
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[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;867561]I really did like the marriage though. It worked fine when McDuffie was writing it in the FF but the biggest fubar to me was how Marvel let the X-titles make it a failure :( It just seems silly that Reed and Sue are still pretty much the only high profile marriage in the MU.
I just hope they don't get rid of all of Marvel's storied kingdoms like Wakanda, Atlantis and Latveria. IMO they are what made the MU pretty unique when I was getting into comics as a kid. I would have liked to have seen more writers handle the political part of it like Priest did in Sturm und Drang.[/QUOTE]
I liked the idea of the marriage, and I think their time in the FF was probably when it was best utilized. But IMO at least the married ended up failing for a variety of reasons... lack of support from the X side of things was just one of many. But that's probably a topic for a different thread.
I don't see the marvel kingdoms going anywhere to be honest. I think marvel likes playing with kingdoms. If anything I think with BP and Inhumans getting movies, they'll be used more.
[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;867547]This is why Shuri is so important. Her character takes that load off and moves TChalla into the role of protector and not ruler. Like any super power, Wakanda's interests are worldwide, which would make TChalla a more viable character.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, apart from being a perfectly viable character in her own right, I think Shuri played a functional role as far as freeing up T'Challa from obligations to Wakanda when it was convenient to free him up from it. Anytime something really bad happened in Wakanda (which frankly has been pretty frequent in recent years), it was harder and harder to justify T'Challa half way around the world playing super hero with his buddies Stateside. Shuri storywise gave him flexibility to do that more.
That said, there maybe some desire to sync up the movie and comic versions, and it's almost certain that BP will be a king in the movie. Which unfortunately for Shuri might have to some degree has led to her current predicament. But I personally liked the idea of Shuri being ruler of Wanda while T'Challa took on the role of King of the Dead. He got to keep the powers and the title of a king, but still had greater freedom to be a super hero away from Wakanda. It was a nice compromise, with the added bonus of helping to build up Shuri.
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;867919]Thank you Mr. M. While we may not always agree I think we come from the same place of just wanting good stories that don't just resort to a series of rumbles comics. I can understand how some have found elements of Hickman's writing lacking (so far I have no complaints about Doom ;) ) but at least he seems to put a lot of thought and planning behind what he does. IMO he "rescued" the FF characters from Fraction and made them highly relevant to his story. I think he is really putting his cast through a trial by fire and I just hope it all pays off in the end.[/QUOTE]
Honesty I felt the Time Runs Out portion of his story reallly feels more like a Fantastic Four story than an Avengers story. FF as a whole aren't doing a lot, but Reed in the last story arc and Doom have been used to incredibe effect. Anyone having trouble deciding who the smartest guys on earth are in that other thread just needs to Reed Hickmans Time Runs Out Avengers arc. It's about showing, not telling ... and we see it clear as day.
[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;867925]What I want from MCU BP is:
Tech:
Ability to climb walls, projectile dampening mesh suit, active camo, anti-metal claws.
Native ability:
Heightened tracking, night vision, extreme agility and reflex (faster than Cap but not nearly as fast as quicksilver), enhanced strength (cap level is fine), advanced scientific acumen (should be able to talk shop with Stark and Banner), pragmatic but moral strategist.
Edit: He can get those energy daggers too, dude has to sell some toys and they look cool.[/QUOTE]
Basically Priests version. Which I think is what everyone wants.
[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;867925]What I want from MCU BP is:
Tech:
Ability to climb walls, projectile dampening mesh suit, active camo, anti-metal claws.
Native ability:
Heightened tracking, night vision, extreme agility and reflex (faster than Cap but not nearly as fast as quicksilver), enhanced strength (cap level is fine), advanced scientific acumen (should be able to talk shop with Stark and Banner), pragmatic but moral strategist.
Edit: He can get those energy daggers too, dude has to sell some toys and they look cool.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget the sick a** gauntlets and the teleportation tech. I t will be cool to see him fight maybe hulk with those and also a mixture of teleportation with martial arts similar to what nightcrawler did in x-men 2 but better
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[QUOTE=XPac;868088]Basically Priests version. Which I think is what everyone wants.[/QUOTE]
I may enjoy EMH version more than Priest's TBH. Pretty similar but he seemed less like a dick in the cartoon than he was sometimes in Priest's run.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;868156]Don't forget the sick a** gauntlets and the teleportation tech. I t will be cool to see him fight maybe hulk with those and also a mixture of teleportation with martial arts similar to what nightcrawler did in x-men 2 but better
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I can live with teleportation tech but I would rather T'challa just be so quick that he doesn't need to teleport.
Teleportation fighting is really really Nightcrawlers thing.
(and good luck beating that scene... one of the best in comic book movies ever)
[QUOTE=XPac;868088]Basically Priests version. Which I think is what everyone wants.[/QUOTE]
I think that's what they are leaning towards since they are finally releasing his complete run.
Meh no one is using it the MCU. NO X-men or Deadpool so not a problem. Keep the stealth, energy daggers, wall climbing, anti-metal claws, the shield tech, armor and the teleportation. Enhanced Physical Abilities and Senses should all be natural and not suit based.
[QUOTE=XPac;868062]Yeah, apart from being a perfectly viable character in her own right, I think Shuri played a functional role as far as freeing up T'Challa from obligations to Wakanda when it was convenient to free him up from it. Anytime something really bad happened in Wakanda (which frankly has been pretty frequent in recent years), it was harder and harder to justify T'Challa half way around the world playing super hero with his buddies Stateside. Shuri storywise gave him flexibility to do that more.
That said, there maybe some desire to sync up the movie and comic versions, and it's almost certain that BP will be a king in the movie. Which unfortunately for Shuri might have to some degree has led to her current predicament. But I personally liked the idea of Shuri being ruler of Wanda while T'Challa took on the role of King of the Dead. He got to keep the powers and the title of a king, but still had greater freedom to be a super hero away from Wakanda. It was a nice compromise, with the added bonus of helping to build up Shuri.[/QUOTE]
This is pretty much why I am an advocate of BP the religious figure/icon and Shuri the Queen. Shuri answers to the people, and TChalla answers to their Lord. Its make Shuri and equal and a vital supporting character at the same time. As important to BP as Odin is important to Thor.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;868171]I can live with teleportation tech but I would rather T'challa just be so quick that he doesn't need to teleport.
Teleportation fighting is really really Nightcrawlers thing.
(and good luck beating that scene... one of the best in comic book movies ever)[/QUOTE]
They don't have to be in the movie but it will be a cool scene to see maybe hydra bots or tanks shooting at T'Challa and he is just using short range teleportation mixed with speed and panther mimicry to dodge the bullets and dismantle the mechs eventually which shows a good example of how panther mixes tech with magic. (This is what happens when you think of so many fanfic scenario for the live action film. lol)
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;868162]I may enjoy EMH version more than Priest's TBH. Pretty similar but he seemed less like a dick in the cartoon than he was sometimes in Priest's run.[/QUOTE]
That's true... he was more of a dick in Priests run than in the cartoon, or really anywhere else.
I kind of liked him that way to be honest ... but I can easily see a lot of people being turned off by that.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;867645]Sturm und Drang is one of my favorite if not the best panther story out there in my opinion. war between lemuria and wakanda with all the kings thrown in the mix and klaw also acting as a major role in the story. To me, the concept of this story would perfectly fit a live action sequel to the Black Panther movie. Too bad we haven't seen this type of story in over a decade. PRIEST, PLEASE WE NEED YOU!!!!!!!!!! :([/QUOTE]
a bit OT:
I can't understand why Marvel is OK with a wrestler pitching stories directly to Axel Alonso but in the same breath they tell fans at comicon that they can't accept unsolicited stuff. How many fans get to schmooze with the head honcho? As to Priest I think they've also had talks with other writers or why do we have guys floating over from DC? Marvel doesn't seem anxious to make an overatures to Priest and I think Tom B has been asked about this in the past. His reply always was that Priest had to call them.
I was surprised to see Priest is back to writing comics again after reading how frustrated he was on his blog. I guess he has to want to come back to Marvel and make the first move. But IMO he deseves a phone call to see if he's interested in anything. He always wanted to write an Iron Man comic and Sturm und Drang was one of his few chances at it. Didn't he work for Marvel for 10 or 15 years?
[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;868183]I think that's what they are leaning towards since they are finally releasing his complete run.[/QUOTE]
About time. They stopped after the first two TPBs, which I have plus most of the single issues.