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Let's Review...
Thor's hammer is a mystical weapon not to mention that the son of Odin is bullet proof even when not holding it!
Ironman is basically a flying tank in the shape of a man!
Captain America's shield is made of vibranium nuff' said!
What exactly are those spears made of and do they return to the wielder once they are thrown like Thor's hammer or do they just stick in perpetual impalement?
If these spears miss their target does the wielder have to ask for them back during the battle or risk life and limb trying to recover them?
For an undefeated nation with a leader worth 500 billion dollars I'm sure better weaponry can be produced and passed among the rank and file!
Just comics???
Then why have other characters with literally better updated equipment and have another characters people still working the loincloth angle even when modern African nations have modern technology?
Which of these modern African nations looks like anything in comics because Tony Stark is not butt naked wielding a spear in his high tech fictional fantasy as a counter visual...
[video=youtube_share;Y3apz9rXCGY]http://youtu.be/Y3apz9rXCGY[/video]
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*shrug* update the spear to Ma'Tok staff like they used in Stargate.
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;160199]Let's Review...
Thor's hammer is a mystical weapon not to mention that the son of Odin is bullet proof even when not holding it!
Ironman is basically a flying tank in the shape of a man!
Captain America's shield is made of vibranium nuff' said!
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And only human Hawkeye uses a bow and arrow.
T'challa uses daggers.
Comics man.
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Since T'challa is worth 500 billion dollars according to independent calculations what then is the worth of other Wakandan citizens as well as Wakanda itself as a nation?
Shuri... Killmonger... Achebe... The third Dora on the left who just so happens to invest her hard earned money in Apple and Microsoft stock?
Bill Gates is the wealthiest American followed closely by Warren Buffet so what should the breakdown of wealth be assuming that T'challa is not hoarding all the wealth for himself?
Does Wakanda have an IRS or some other form of tax collecting system just in case T'challa tries to pull a Wesley Snipes?
If T'challa wrote a check for 500 billion dollars would the bank bounce?
Does Wakanda Design Group count towards the available assets of T'challa's portfolio making him slightly richer?
How much did SHIELD pay T'challa for designing the quinjets and did that lawsuit fall through against Apple for jacking the Kimoyo Card specs for the iPhone?
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Hawkeye uses explosive arrows with deadly accuracy and never has to reload until he runs out of arrows... Besides, he is still kind of silly standing next to such heavy hitters and is often the odd man out when it comes to solo movies, cartoons and comics!
Hawkeye is one of those throwback characters that you are stuck with and almost always has to be included in an ensemble to help carry him!
Jeremy Renner almost left the Avengers due to this...
[url]http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/160171/Saturday-Night-Live-The-Avengers-Jeremy-Renner-Spoofs-VIDEO/[/url]
When Black Panther is spoofed... And it will be guaranteed... What elements of the intellectual franchise will be front and center for mockery and what will be that which sinks the franchise?
It's nice that a few people are loving Man-Ape or the idea of using spears as a weapon but all the ape jokes and "spear chucking" jokes will be problematic down the line even if you mean well!
Google spear chucker and research that for yourself and calculate carefully if it is worth the trouble looming on that horizon...
The name "Black" and "Panther" comes with it's own set of problems to troubleshoot so why add other racial references when they are not even needed for the story to be great?
Since the warriors of Wakanda are not bullet proof like Thor it is silly to have them use an aimed projectile weapon that does not return immediately to their hand on the battlefield against foes that would use automatic rifles!
Marvel has a lot of characters based in New York which is a technologically advanced city full of Apple retail stores... The only butt naked shoppers you see are in the summer time when the voyeurs come out to play!
Should New Yorkers in the Marvel universe dress like cavemen as a homage to yesteryear's lifestyle from way back when?
Interesting how we pick and choose who gets to go modern and who doesn't... Just saying!
Note: T'challa uses energy daggers which are like smaller sized light sabers!
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The Jabari tribesmen are bad guys and flunky bad guys at that.
Who cares what they are armed with?
Its the borderine super strong dude with the AK that you are supposed to be worried about.
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About the loin cloths. I dont have a problem with it because its screams culture that was not influence by others, as a person who comes from a culture that is dfferent from the popular western, I dont believe that different clothing marks you as lesser or than those that are more pre dominant. That being said, yeah we have to move away from spears. I know its a double standard that Atlanteans can all carry tridents and Asgardians can carry swords, but no one call Namor a Trident Chucker. So I a with Flex on that/
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So uh, Black Panther was somewhat featured in another X-Men issue.
Dickey's Storm mini got retconned. The Storm/BP first meeting is back to how Claremont wrote it I believe.
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[QUOTE=Double 0;160515]So uh, Black Panther was somewhat featured in another X-Men issue.
Dickey's Storm mini got retconned. The Storm/BP first meeting is back to how Claremont wrote it I believe.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying I'm happy about the retcon because I really loved the story. Jerome Dickey made a great story But what I really didn't like was what happened to them in the forest because I just felt they're just too young to experience it.
Anyway, has BP done something in Original sin?
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As a man married to an African woman whom I have never seen wield a spear I wonder how many actual Africans historically even used a spear as a practical utensil!
Throughout history spears were used by many people outside of Africa for hunting as well as warfare so how did this spear association get so exclusive to Africans?
It's like calling the lion the king of the jungle when most lions are found out in the wild plains and the open savannah far from the dense jungle where tigers are mostly found!
Tigers have stripes that better camouflage it for the jungle while lions have a coat that helps conceal them among tall yellowy grass for hunting!
The Black Panther is a thinking man's character therefore you need to think outside the standard issue box and discover what you did not know about Africa not what you think you know!
For example Thor...
[url]http://io9.com/8-things-marvel-got-wrong-about-thor-and-norse-mytholog-1458989921[/url]
Now of course to sell a character you have to take certain liberties and add in your own mythology but with Black Panther there is still the racial stigmas that rear their ugly heads in the form of Man-Ape and "Spear Chuckers!"
If you have a society that has thrived 10,000 years straight but still fall back on old racial stereotypes when you don't with other characters that is problematic!
"Conflict Vibranium" as depicted in the Ironman cartoon featuring Black Panther is good enough because it explores the greed associated with actual human trafficking/smuggling with a drama similar to that of Avatar's "Un-obtanium!"
To waste time and the potential loss of revenue focusing on a black guy in an ape suit with spear wielding minions in a technologically advanced African nation is questionable!
There are 1001 other ways to tell a great story with Black Panther in time to catch up with J.J. Abrams Star Wars cast of John Boyega and Lupita Nyong'o who are getting fitted for their Mace Windu inspired purple light sabers as we speak!
Spears???
I got yo Spears right here... Britney Beyotches you better work!!! :cool:
[video=youtube_share;pt8VYOfr8To]http://youtu.be/pt8VYOfr8To[/video]
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[QUOTE=Double 0;160515]So uh, Black Panther was somewhat featured in another X-Men issue.
Dickey's Storm mini got retconned. The Storm/BP first meeting is back to how Claremont wrote it I believe.[/QUOTE]
They should retcon the whole relationship, I still don't believe T'challa gained anything from it besides the temporary sales boost and the obsessive haters.
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[QUOTE=RLAAMJR.;160526]I'm not saying I'm happy about the retcon because I really loved the story. Jerome Dickey made a great story But what I really didn't like was what happened to them in the forest because I just felt they're just too young to experience it.
Anyway, has BP done something in Original sin?[/QUOTE]
My major problem with that mini is that Dickey needlessly reversed the roles of who saved who.
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So BP do anything in Original sin yet?
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I wouldn't mind the spears if they had some kind of projectile capability. Energy or projectile. What if they were some kind of rail gun? Firing bb sized rounds at mach 3? Sound manipulation devices that when used with a whole squad could levitate a building? (read your physics) Laser spears? All three? The versatility of the spear as a melee weapon when combined with some kind of distance capability makes all the sense in the world to me. But just spears? In a comic book world. And as far as "spear chukka" goes, how ridiculous when pretty much every society and culture on earth has used spears over the course of history.
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For the sake of more fun let's fast forward the time machine and assume that the Black Panther movie has been green lighted and is well into production shall we...
After a long extensive search they finally settle on someone to play Man-Ape in the movie and it will probably be some really really deep dark black actor bordering on blue black... C'mon this is Hollywood they will do that as an afterthought and apologize much later for the inconvenience it caused!
Trailers for the movie are released and in addition to random "spearchuckers" here and there you will have a fully rendered prosthetic or CGI enhanced Man-Ape costume and him saying stuff that will cause massive spillage of guffaws to the preview audiences as they wait for Superman vs Batman: Dawn of Justice to get started!
Also... When this extra dark chocolate actor has to do career ending interviews on various talk shows to promote this movie it will soon settle in that unlike drama driven characters played by Ian Mckellan (Magneto), Tom Hiddleston (Loki) and the late Heath Ledger (The Joker) he will have to fend off all the controversy of being a Hollywood Shuffled black actor portraying a black man in an ape suit!
After he is confirmed to be a tragic joke character he will wait patiently somewhere in seclusion for the inevitable A Soldier's Story Sergeant Waters treatment because he is done if he accepts that role and tries to play it with a straight face as the other villains actor's have done so successfully!
Once an esteemed black actor gets into character for Man-Ape what would his motivation be when he starts making gorilla sounds in that deep baritone voice of his???
James Lipton: "So you played a black face ape villain..."
Nameless Deep Dark Black Actor: "Yeah uhm... I wanted to get deep into the inner depth of this character so I channeled Curious George and Magilla Gorilla!"
James Lipton: "WTF???"
Nameless Deep Dark Black Actor: "Naw, I was trying to explore the emotional content of what makes this character tick so I studied ape movements and mannerisms and even spent some time with gorillas at a monkey farm!"
James Lipton: "Okaaaay... The NCAAP gave you flak for this role... Sharpton, Jackson they all blasted your portrayal publicly!"
Nameless Deep Dark Black Actor: "They just haters... See I'm an actor that gets all in the character on another level because I'm theater trained!"
James Lipton: (Face + Palm = sigh)
Everybody up and dance Magilla Gorilla is that dude...
[video=youtube_share;eRRl5XQXfTI]http://youtu.be/eRRl5XQXfTI[/video]