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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1770067]So basically, Hickman closed out his saga without bothering to do anything with the characters he created for Infinity. :smh:[/QUOTE]
Not sure about Corvus and Proxima. But I'd like to think Swan is somewhere I'm wondering what her motives would be now or if all this changes the character's view points.
[QUOTE=MadFacedKid;1769887]I'm not sure where I'd place KOTD I feel like the Namor thing was impressive but for the most part it felt like Namor just stood there, the Terrack thing was impressive also but that was off panel for the most part and Swan hasnt really been that impressive at most id say shes above Peak promise I'm not trying to downplay his accomplishments.
I agree he's above high street but for the most part I still see any writer having him go a couple panels in h2h against characters like Cap and Nighthawk.
I do belive he has the means to hurt higher tier characters though.
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Personally I'd like to see the classic Wolverine vs Hulk fight with Panther as a stand-in for Logan.[/QUOTE]
[B]I was actually talkkng about him beating black dwarf, who has super human strength, density and unbreakable skin yetbwheb T'Challa drove him away, he was covered in cuts and bloodied. Terrax T'Challa got a killing blow in him hadbhe not been a cosmic being which is pretty impressive, Black swan is super human, as she cracked the holding cell she was put in that was designed to hold superhuman/cosmic beings. As for Namor, its not that he didn't fight back, but rather T'Challa was too fast for him to react the first couple hits. When they started up again Namor was trying to kill T'Challa just as T'Challa was trying to kill him as well and would of had hulk not intervened.
KotD T'Challa was stronger then he was prior to the update. How much so is up in the air as Hickman didn't bother to showcase how strong exactly. Butnhe was strong enough to fight cosmic level and class 100 strength opponents and hold his own [/B]
[QUOTE=Rumble;1770072]I don't have an issue with any of the tech or gadgets Hickman gave him, or Priest for that matter. Long as the story telling makes sense and consistency/carry over is there (which it hasn't been). Cloaking somewhat undermines his ability to sneak around people but having a bullet stopping vibranium weave suit that makes point blank rapid fire from heavily armed goons akin to someone pouring a large bag of skittles on your chest... can similarly somewhat undermine his great agility. Sure we could split hairs to see which undermines more and rah rah rah.. but ehh. IMO how much it undermines just comes down to what kind of threat and plot the story has in store. [/QUOTE]
[B]Eh the Vibranium Microweave is different. He still dodges bullet's even when wearing it, its just added protection If he was ever caught and they tried to light him up a point blank range (Like in enemy if the state) it doesn't undermine his skills because he isn't relying on it to tank damage. The teleportation and cloaking is different because there are tons of on panel feats of him showcasing massive skill in his agility, stealth and speed and those heavily undermined those skills in Hickmans run. To a point were he probably could of avoided things had he not been so reliant on that Tech.
Cloaking is useless. Maybe it's something Shuri could use as she isn't as stealthy as T'Challa. But the teleportation should be for emergency use only if used in combat (like when he used it out Wakandas youth) or only used to travel Long distances such as when he used it to teleport out of Wakanda to the secret base or traveling to Galactus lair.
It should never be used for close range combat, because that heavily diminish his base skills which have a longer standing history and tons of feats to support it. [/B]
[QUOTE=MadFacedKid;1769887]I'm not sure where I'd place KOTD I feel like the Namor thing was impressive but for the most part it felt like Namor just stood there, the Terrack thing was impressive also but that was off panel for the most part and Swan hasnt really been that impressive at most id say shes above Peak promise I'm not trying to downplay his accomplishments.
I agree he's above high street but for the most part I still see any writer having him go a couple panels in h2h against characters like Cap and Nighthawk.
I do belive he has the means to hurt higher tier characters though.
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Personally I'd like to see the classic Wolverine vs Hulk fight with Panther as a stand-in for Logan.[/QUOTE]
REad the actual book, T'challa didn't hurt Hulk.
Hulk would murder Panther. Logan "works" against Hulk because he can heal, so when Hulk catches him he just gets back up and gets back to stabbing. So it is just a never ending cycle until hulks throws him miles away or Logan gets hit so hard he gets KTFO
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1770574][B]Eh the Vibranium Microweave is different. He still dodges bullet's even when wearing it, its just added protection If he was ever caught and they tried to light him up a point blank range (Like in enemy if the state) it doesn't undermine his skills because he isn't relying on it to tank damage. The teleportation and cloaking is different because there are tons of on panel feats of him showcasing massive skill in his agility, stealth and speed and those heavily undermined those skills in Hickmans run. To a point were he probably could of avoided things had he not been so reliant on that Tech.
Cloaking is useless. Maybe it's something Shuri could use as she isn't as stealthy as T'Challa. But the teleportation should be for emergency use only if used in combat (like when he used it out Wakandas youth) or only used to travel Long distances such as when he used it to teleport out of Wakanda to the secret base or traveling to Galactus lair.
It should never be used for close range combat, because that heavily diminish his base skills which have a longer standing history and tons of feats to support it. [/B][/QUOTE]
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WM gun thing looks cool as hell lol
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1770574][B]Eh the Vibranium Microweave is different.[/b][/quote]
Nah, i respectfully disagree. When you can have the guy do something like this at the writer's discretion.
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then how much he needs to duck and dodge bullets is whatever. If they still want him to, just because, then hey that's fabulous, looks cool and is great cardio. No complaints from me, but i'm also not as concerned for his well being as I would be for DDevil or Spidey, except for the times the writer doesn't want him to be bullet proof anymore of course.
And i didn't feel his skills were undermined in Hickman's run when it came to his fighting abilities (his plot-specific intellect/judgement being another discussion). In fact, he still displayed great speed and agility in spite of his teleportation tech to beat Black Swan's goons the first time around. And he still used base-skills against that batman/ryder guy; didn't rely on teleportation or cloaking for some type of big edge. So that's why i said sure we can try and split hairs for several pages but nah, i don't see it and it didn't take away from my enjoyment of his fights and provided some useful if not just cool moments in other parts. If you didn't like it, that's cool too. Not like we have to be homogeneous as a fan base.
I can guarantee after CA:CW the Vibranium Microweave will be standard equipment in the comics, only because in the movie they said his costume is a vibranium chain mesh. So basically he is covered in caps shield
[QUOTE=Rumble;1770911]Nah, i respectfully disagree. When you can have the guy do something like this at the writer's discretion.
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then how much he needs to duck and dodge bullets is whatever. If they still want him to, just because, then hey that's fabulous, looks cool and is great cardio. No complaints from me, but i'm also not as concerned for his well being as I would be for DDevil or Spidey, except for the times the writer doesn't want him to be bullet proof anymore of course.
And i didn't feel his skills were undermined in Hickman's run when it came to his fighting abilities (his plot-specific intellect/judgement being another discussion). In fact, he still displayed great speed and agility in spite of his teleportation tech to beat Black Swan's goons the first time around. And he still used base-skills against that batman/ryder guy; didn't rely on teleportation or cloaking for some type of big edge. So that's why i said sure we can try and split hairs for several pages but nah, i don't see it and it didn't take away from my enjoyment of his fights and provided some useful if not just cool moments in other parts. If you didn't like it, that's cool too. Not like we have to be homogeneous as a fan base.[/QUOTE]
I thought the stupid shield was more problematic than teleportation, although Id on't like either of them.
He doesn't need to block. He should evade. He isn't cap.
[QUOTE=CCSlim;1770964]I can guarantee after CA:CW the Vibranium Microweave will be standard equipment in the comics, only because in the movie they said his costume is a vibranium chain mesh. So basically he is covered in caps shield[/QUOTE]
Coates has talked about, at length, his vibranium suit as well.
It is probably the closest thing to standard he has honestly.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1768825]needs accent colors badly (silver preferably)[/QUOTE]
In my opinion its a better model than the last Marvel Selects Panther (which I guess I'm never getting now).
But hey! There's a movie afoot!
We will probably get a second version WITH the silver accents because they gotta get thier merch out.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1770849]REad the actual book, T'challa didn't hurt Hulk.
Hulk would murder Panther. Logan "works" against Hulk because he can heal, so when Hulk catches him he just gets back up and gets back to stabbing. So it is just a never ending cycle until hulks throws him miles away or Logan gets hit so hard he gets KTFO[/QUOTE]
I'm aware of what happened in the title Cap was trying to take in the Illuminati a fight broke up. I brought the scan up cause Black Panther made Hulk bleed and his head turning also looks great alongside that. He also took down one warmachine with an energy dagger.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1770563][B]I was actually talkkng about him beating black dwarf, who has super human strength, density and unbreakable skin yetbwheb T'Challa drove him away, he was covered in cuts and bloodied. Terrax T'Challa got a killing blow in him hadbhe not been a cosmic being which is pretty impressive, Black swan is super human, as she cracked the holding cell she was put in that was designed to hold superhuman/cosmic beings. As for Namor, its not that he didn't fight back, but rather T'Challa was too fast for him to react the first couple hits. When they started up again Namor was trying to kill T'Challa just as T'Challa was trying to kill him as well and would of had hulk not intervened.
KotD T'Challa was stronger then he was prior to the update. How much so is up in the air as Hickman didn't bother to showcase how strong exactly. Butnhe was strong enough to fight cosmic level and class 100 strength opponents and hold his own [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if he's faster then Namor but then again Hickman kept pairing them up so he it's more likely or not trying to suggest Panther can contend.
The Black Dwarf thing is what I confused Terrack with. The fight was more or less of panel all we know is he's defeated but how it took place is a bit questionable. We do know Panther was capable of dancing around him and I'd suggest clawing him based on the later images.
[QUOTE=MadFacedKid;1771026]I brought the scan up cause Black Panther made Hulk bleed [/QUOTE]
No, that was Sunspot.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1771052]No, that was Sunspot.
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I saw that full size image and read that as T'Challa cutting Hulk..
WTH is Panther doing..
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WTH is Panther doing..[/QUOTE]
not hurting hulk
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1770849]REad the actual book, T'challa didn't hurt Hulk.
Hulk would murder Panther. Logan "works" against Hulk because he can heal, so when Hulk catches him he just gets back up and gets back to stabbing. So it is just a never ending cycle until hulks throws him miles away or Logan gets hit so hard he gets KTFO[/QUOTE]
Honestly I think Sunspot, who I'd mostly cropped out of that picture though you can still see his fist deserved the the lion's share of the credit for that hit against the hulk.
[QUOTE=Rumble;1770911]Nah, i respectfully disagree. When you can have the guy do something like this at the writer's discretion.
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then how much he needs to duck and dodge bullets is whatever. If they still want him to, just because, then hey that's fabulous, looks cool and is great cardio. No complaints from me, but i'm also not as concerned for his well being as I would be for DDevil or Spidey, except for the times the writer doesn't want him to be bullet proof anymore of course.
And i didn't feel his skills were undermined in Hickman's run when it came to his fighting abilities (his plot-specific intellect/judgement being another discussion). In fact, he still displayed great speed and agility in spite of his teleportation tech to beat Black Swan's goons the first time around. And he still used base-skills against that batman/ryder guy; didn't rely on teleportation or cloaking for some type of big edge. So that's why i said sure we can try and split hairs for several pages but nah, i don't see it and it didn't take away from my enjoyment of his fights and provided some useful if not just cool moments in other parts. If you didn't like it, that's cool too. Not like we have to be homogeneous as a fan base.[/QUOTE]
So Superman doesn't need super speed, since he doesn't need to dodge most things. He's pretty much invincible. Let's stop putting T'challa in box. He should be able to have both.
[QUOTE=Victor Freeman;1771179]So Superman doesn't need super speed, since he doesn't need to dodge most things. He's pretty much invincible. Let's stop putting T'challa in box. He should be able to have both.[/QUOTE]
Just because Superman can do something doesn't mean Black Panther, or any other character for that matter, should. You don't want every character being Superman. I can't think of anything more boring than that. You want a Superman with the uber physical stats, you want a Batman who lacks the uber physical stats but makes up for it with skill intelligence, and you want everything in between.
It's not about putting anyone is a box, it's about giving different characters different powers and different power levels to give texture and uniqueness to the whole thing.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1770974]I thought the stupid shield was more problematic than teleportation, although Id on't like either of them.
He doesn't need to block. He should evade. He isn't cap.[/QUOTE]
The funny thing about the shield was that anytime he used it, the person next to him ended up getting killed.
Wonder if he wishes he'd create a bigger force field.
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;1771025]In my opinion its a better model than the last Marvel Selects Panther (which I guess I'm never getting now).
But hey! There's a movie afoot!
We will probably get a second version WITH the silver accents because they gotta get thier merch out.[/QUOTE]
I would have liked them to do the movie design instead, but Marvel Select only does a few movie designs a year, and already used them up on Iron Man, Cap, and Bucky. The good news is they'll definitely do a Black Panther movie version when the film comes out. They usually do the solo heroes.
[QUOTE=XPac;1771243]Just because Superman can do something doesn't mean Black Panther, or any other character for that matter, should. You don't want every character being Superman. I can't think of anything more boring than that. You want a Superman with the uber physical stats, you want a Batman who lacks the uber physical stats but makes up for it with skill intelligence, and you want everything in between.
It's not about putting anyone is a box, it's about giving different characters different powers and different power levels to give texture and uniqueness to the whole thing.[/QUOTE]
And it doesn't mean he should be placed in in box either. I'm sorry. There is NO reason he has to be limited in anything. Apply the same logic to your favorite then come back and talk to me. Lol
[QUOTE=Victor Freeman;1771351]And it doesn't mean he should be placed in in box either. I'm sorry. There is NO reason he has to be limited in anything. Apply the same logic to your favorite then come back and talk to me. Lol[/QUOTE]
I agree with everything here
The psychological effect the vibranium suit would have on some foes would be worth it. That and the stray bullet, or, gasp, someone faster than T'Challa getting a shot through. Not to mention it's potential for negating energy attacks, which, I think has been underused. Don't like the shield, but the cloaking works just OK with me. I mean, how isstealth us going to help in a straight up fight in the sunshine? Limited cloaking makes sense. And if advanced enough could fool or stall anyone with high tech sensors. And I Will Say again how much I dislike to powered armor for him.
[QUOTE=Victor Freeman;1771351]And it doesn't mean he should be placed in in box either. I'm sorry. There is NO reason he has to be limited in anything. Apply the same logic to your favorite then come back and talk to me. Lol[/QUOTE]
I DO apply that logic to my favorite characters. I love Spider-Man but I certainly don't need or even want him being as smart as Reed Richards or as strong as Superman. I just want Spider-Man to be Spider-Man. If I want to read about someone as strong as the Superman, I'll read the Superman. It's not putting him in a box... again it's just giving different characters different powers and different power levels.
Yes, there are plenty of internet people that want their favorite character to be smarter and more powerful so that they can say their favorite can beat up someone else's favorite on a Rumbles board, but marvel doesn't care about that and shouldn't. If you want to read about someone Super strong, read the Hulk. If you want to read about someone super fast read the Flash. If you want to read about someone super smart read Batman. But Flash won't necessarily be as smart as Batman (even though he's smart) nor will Batman be as fast as the Flash (even though he's fast). And neither will be as strong as the Hulk. I think if it less as putting people in boxes and simply more as acknowliging different characters uniquenss.
[QUOTE=Rumble;1770911]Nah, i respectfully disagree. When you can have the guy do something like this at the writer's discretion.
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then how much he needs to duck and dodge bullets is whatever. If they still want him to, just because, then hey that's fabulous, looks cool and is great cardio. No complaints from me, but i'm also not as concerned for his well being as I would be for DDevil or Spidey, except for the times the writer doesn't want him to be bullet proof anymore of course.
And i didn't feel his skills were undermined in Hickman's run when it came to his fighting abilities (his plot-specific intellect/judgement being another discussion). In fact, he still displayed great speed and agility in spite of his teleportation tech to beat Black Swan's goons the first time around. And he still used base-skills against that batman/ryder guy; didn't rely on teleportation or cloaking for some type of big edge. So that's why i said sure we can try and split hairs for several pages but nah, i don't see it and it didn't take away from my enjoyment of his fights and provided some useful if not just cool moments in other parts. If you didn't like it, that's cool too. Not like we have to be homogeneous as a fan base.[/QUOTE]
[B]You do know that Priest was the one that brought T'Challa to the 21st century right? he set the standard for T'challa tech that still gets used today (well atleast some of it, somethings still get left out). Vibranium robs objects of their momentum so why wouldn't T'Challa have that on his habit? he still dodges bullets. You know what happens when he doesn't have the vibranium? reed jungle action. The microweave doesn't undermine his skill set all because again, he isn't using it to tank damage. Your picture above is from enemy of the state where he was captured by Kraven and shackled to a burning building and they try to light him up, having that to fall back on is key, and it makes sense for the 8th smartest man on earth to have some sort of defense for himself in case he can't dodge. Ontop of that, if he didn't have that defense then he would be street level and wouldn't be able to take on tougher opponents because he wouldn't be able to take a hit from stronger enemies.
As for Hickmans run, he heavily used teleportation and cloaking in the fight against swan, to an excessive amount. It made sense to move the Young Wakandan to safety, but other then that he didn't need to use it and the cloaking was just unnecessary. It would of looked alot better with just him showcasing his superior speed, agility, and stealth t take them down. And that cloaking tech was used alot, way more then needed that it was like a crutch. And when he fought ryder he used his cloaking on him as well its just he threw grenades at him and forced him to use that weak ass shield.
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Energy shielding or absorption, Invisibility, teleportation and so on, I'm fine with any of these tools being added to T'Challa's arsenal. I've never been a fan of him being limited to just claws, suit and daggers. I know some are and that's perfectly fine. IMO he needs a bit more flash and in the MCU, tech such as energy shields and invisibility would make him stand out as no one else really has those capabilities. Plus, it's fitting considering he's a genius, inventor and the leader of the most technologically advanced nation on Earth.
[QUOTE=XPac;1771243]Just because Superman can do something doesn't mean Black Panther, or any other character for that matter, should. You don't want every character being Superman. I can't think of anything more boring than that. You want a Superman with the uber physical stats, you want a Batman who lacks the uber physical stats but makes up for it with skill intelligence, and you want everything in between.
It's not about putting anyone is a box, it's about giving different characters different powers and different power levels to give texture and uniqueness to the whole thing.[/QUOTE]
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I loved Sorcerer Kings Batman vs Superman that Batman had some pretty boss gadgets.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1771113]not hurting hulk[/QUOTE]
I'm aware that you stated that but artistically he seems just as directed towards Hulk as Sunspot if not more so. With the position he's in it seems like he clawed him I won't take it like that since there's no visual claw marks but Hulk's been hurt with less piercing wise I'd assume Vibranium could cut him.
[QUOTE=Lord Morph;1771615]Energy shielding or absorption, Invisibility, teleportation and so on, I'm fine with any of these tools being added to T'Challa's arsenal. I've never been a fan of him being limited to just claws, suit and daggers. I know some are and that's perfectly fine. IMO he needs a bit more flash and in the MCU, tech such as energy shields and invisibility would make him stand out as no one else really has those capabilities. Plus, it's fitting considering he's a genius, inventor and the leader of the most technologically advanced nation on Earth.[/QUOTE]
Since Marvel Studios doesn't have Sue Storm, I suppose T'Challa could in theory corner the market on invisibility and force fields.
That said if he's got vibranium suit I think the force field would be somewhat redundent. It's like giving Wolverien a knife.
[QUOTE=Lord Morph;1771615]Energy shielding or absorption, Invisibility, teleportation and so on, I'm fine with any of these tools being added to T'Challa's arsenal. I've never been a fan of him being limited to just claws, suit and daggers. I know some are and that's perfectly fine. IMO he needs a bit more flash and in the MCU, tech such as energy shields and invisibility would make him stand out as no one else really has those capabilities. Plus, it's fitting considering he's a genius, inventor and the leader of the most technologically advanced nation on Earth.[/QUOTE]
Steve's got the shield market cornered.
Nightcrawler has got the acrobatic teleporting market corned.
[QUOTE=XPac;1771666]Since Marvel Studios doesn't have Sue Storm, I suppose T'Challa could in theory corner the market on invisibility and force fields.
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Grosssssssss
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1771596][B]You do know that Priest was the one that brought T'Challa to the 21st century right?[/b][/quote] lol. I'm somewhat cognitive of that, sure ;)
Priest is also the one who reminisces about the backlash he got from older/conservative 'fans' who didn't like T'Challa being 'brought to the 21st century' with all that fancy tech they thought was excessive at that time. Cryin that a bullet stoppin vibranium weave suit, fancy boots, ipad before an ipad, etc was taking away from the cunning karate jungle man that they all knew and loved (but didn't want to buy books for, according to Priest haha).
And i'd be ok with Priest's stuff being the standard; but how often those boots or kymoto card has been used or the specifics of those energy dagger settings... prob leaves much to be desired.
[quote][b]he set the standard for T'challa tech that still gets used today (well atleast some of it, somethings still get left out). Vibranium robs objects of their momentum so why wouldn't T'Challa have that on his habit? he still dodges bullets. You know what happens when he doesn't have the vibranium? reed jungle action. The microweave doesn't undermine his skill set all because again, he isn't using it to tank damage. Your picture above is from enemy of the state where he was captured by Kraven and shackled to a burning building and they try to light him up, having that to fall back on is key, and it makes sense for the 8th smartest man on earth to have some sort of defense for himself in case he can't dodge. Ontop of that, if he didn't have that defense then he would be street level and wouldn't be able to take on tougher opponents because he wouldn't be able to take a hit from stronger enemies.[/b][/quote]
i'm aware of the circumstances of that issue, and I'm not anti-vibranium weave suit. Quite the opposite. At the end of the day, Priest gave him a bullet stopping suit that pissed people off back then in part b/c they felt it took away from his athletic/cunning abilities.. or something. How do I feel about that? I feel they're entitled to their opinion but I would disagree with them back then just like I would disagree with people strongly against the Hickman gadgets (not saying i love or champion all of them).
i don't feel it was used excessively at all against black swan's goons as he was still jumping and bounding towards them. And same with Ryder where it still came down to fisticuffs (or daggers vs claws) and throwing daggers/batarangs at each other.. in which the exposition between the two (and making them seem evenly matched) was the intent imo.
if they were to bump T'challa ability, my theory is that he will be similar to the Predator in a way. Both are hunters, both have advanced tech (predator mostly), Both have jungle themes to them, both have cloaking devices and infrared sensors. Granted the Predator is from another planet but if a savage creature like that can use technology to capture or dismantle it's prey then why can't T'Challa have the same?
Not saying he should be overwhelmed with new equipments but they should all be used based on circumstances he is facing. if he is going hand to hand with an oppnonent like Thanos, you can't expect him to use his fist or agility to defeat him. He has to come up with something.
Also, the shield might be a downer but the cloaking and the teleportation abilities were bad ass. That was one of the few times I enjoyed hickman portraying T'challa combining his skill along with science and technology. That is what the 8th smartest man in the marvel universe should be doing but that's just my opinion
HSH enhancements.
Vibranium weave in suit
Energy daggers (whether old school or KOD version).
Kimoyo card.
Occasional tech depending on story arc (case-by-case basis).
And of course, his intelligence, diplomatic immunity (and the perks that come with it) and his H2H skills.
EDIT: Forgot the claws.
Anything beyond that, though great, is optional.
EDIT: In my scenario, T'Challa is King.
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1771794]HSH enhancements.
Vibranium weave in suit
Energy daggers (whether old school or KOD version).
Kimoyo card.
Occasional tech depending on story arc (case-by-case basis).
And of course, his intelligence, diplomatic immunity (and the perks that come with it) and his H2H skills.
Anything beyond that, though great, is optional.
EDIT: In my scenario, T'Challa is King.[/QUOTE]
I might be in the minority here but I was never really that in to the daggers that much. However I did like them when T'Challa could join both daggers together to form something like a scythe but that's about it. They are cool at times but they just don't seem powerful in comparison to other iconic weapons in the marvel universe i.e. Thor's hammer, wolverine's claws. cap's shield etc. I kind of prefer the claws in a way
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1771952]I might be in the minority here but I was never really that in to the daggers that much. However I did like them when T'Challa could join both daggers together to form something like a scythe but that's about it. They are cool at times but they just don't seem powerful in comparison to other iconic weapons in the marvel universe i.e. Thor's hammer, wolverine's claws. cap's shield etc. I kind of prefer the claws in a way[/QUOTE]
Forgot the claws, the claws are good.
As for a trademark weapon...the claws and/or the daggers are fine. Nothing wrong with him having both.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1771790]if they were to bump T'challa ability, my theory is that he will be similar to the Predator in a way. Both are hunters, both have advanced tech (predator mostly), Both have jungle themes to them, both have cloaking devices and infrared sensors. Granted the Predator is from another planet but if a savage creature like that can use technology to capture or dismantle it's prey then why can't T'Challa have the same?
Not saying he should be overwhelmed with new equipments but they should all be used based on circumstances he is facing. if he is going hand to hand with an oppnonent like Thanos, you can't expect him to use his fist or agility to defeat him. He has to come up with something.
Also, the shield might be a downer but the cloaking and the teleportation abilities were bad ass. That was one of the few times I enjoyed hickman portraying T'challa combining his skill along with science and technology. That is what the 8th smartest man in the marvel universe should be doing but that's just my opinion[/QUOTE]
Truthfully all the comic book smart guys at this point should be using teleportation.
If Pym can create magical door, why the hell are the Avengers still using Quinjets?
But I suppose teleportation potentially makes things too easy at times.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1771952]I might be in the minority here but I was never really that in to the daggers that much. However I did like them when T'Challa could join both daggers together to form something like a scythe but that's about it. They are cool at times but they just don't seem powerful in comparison to other iconic weapons in the marvel universe i.e. Thor's hammer, wolverine's claws. cap's shield etc. I kind of prefer the claws in a way[/QUOTE]
His daggers could do something those weapons couldn't...
actually hurt Ultron