[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3123609]I'd advise them to go check out her solo or the X-men books.
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Lol.
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[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3123609]I'd advise them to go check out her solo or the X-men books.
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Lol.
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Poked my head in the Storm thread and now that Wolverine is back the claws are coming out.
The pro BP and Storm fan are going to be guarding the gates. lol
[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3123510]10/10 for No Storm. 6/10 for story content.
I am glad to see a classic BP villain appearing.[/QUOTE]
I'd give the story a 5/10 due to I loves me some Chris Sprouse, I agree with everything else you said
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;3123596]I did. Thought the issue was pretty good. Sprouse's art was very good, Torres's art wasnt that bad at all imho, action scenes were actually well done, and everyone had a good showing.
T'Challa in particular was much improved, compared to previous issues. I hope he gets more showings like this, or better, the rest of the way.
Is it a game-changer for those who already hate the run? No. If you hate this run and/or dropped it already, I doubt this issue will change your mind. However, I suspect this issue (and the next one) will greatly influence those that are on the fence.
And for those wondering: no, Storm was not in this issue. Nor was she mentioned on panel.
Cautiously optimistic for the first "legacy" issue, especially with a new artist coming in (Leonard Kirk).[/QUOTE]
I think marvel is banking on these legacy issues to be good jumping in points for readers, so hopefully this book will deliver.
It's definately got my interest, and I'm looking foreward to seeing how Coates handles more classic BP villains.
Read the solo issue yesterday.
It seems like Editorial has reigned Coates in because, surprisingly, there is ZERO T’Challa punking in the entire issue. The Midnight Angels listen to T’Challa’s orders with no back talk or insults. Storm isn’t present to upstage him, and T’Challa actually figures shit
Out on HIS OWN without having to rely on Shuri. In fact he schools her.
[QUOTE=XPac;3122892]It can't be just that simple, because frankly that's just ego. A nation that spent it's entire history being isolationists likely aren't motivated solely by that.
It has to make sense, factoring in the risks and rewards of such a costly and dangerous undertaking. If it makes sense (and I'm assuming it will if T'Challa is behind it) and it fits within the movitvations of the characters (as we obviously want to avoid making them look like bad guys in all of this), then it should be fine.[/QUOTE]
[B]SWII ending explained why Wakanda was looking to the stars. The found a planet, Named it after their god and the main city is named after their king. [/B]
[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;3123409]I'm curious how many people have read the issue this week?[/QUOTE]
Hopefully the same amount of people who bought the last issue of the Crew...
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[QUOTE=Ziggiyy;3123689]Read the solo issue yesterday.
It seems like Editorial has reigned Coates in because, surprisingly, there is ZERO T’Challa punking in the entire issue. The Midnight Angels listen to T’Challa’s orders with no back talk or insults. Storm isn’t present to upstage him, and T’Challa actually figures shit
Out on HIS OWN without having to rely on Shuri. In fact he schools her.[/QUOTE]
Haven't read, but that is the feeling I'm getting too.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3123691][B]SWII ending explained why Wakanda was looking to the stars. The found a planet, Named it after their god and the main city is named after their king. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, but the question is whether or not it's worth it. The cost and the risk I assume has to be considerable.
Coates run began with Wakanda being in pretty bad shape. Their government was stretched thin, and all sorts of crimes were occuring seemingly without the government knowledge. If this was all going on while T'CHalla was building his galactic empire, I think the question needs to be asked whether or not Wakanda was being neglected for this to happen. For the Wakandan military, going from defending a relatively small african nation to defending an entire galactic empire potentially would stretch them consideringly at least in terms of man power (though I don't know that for sure... we're speculating at this point). I would think at least half if not more of the people normally defending Wakanda would have to now be in space securing and defending this galactic empire, potentially meaning that things were slipping through the cracks at home in Wakanda. So theoretically, building this empire could have been the real reason things in Wakanda was in the state that it was.
Course, that's only speculation... Coates hasn't really told this story yet so we'll see. It'll be interesting to see how Coates works this Galactic empire into his existing narrative, because as I said earlier it's a bit of a jarring fit. But that's not to say he can't make it work. We'll see if he even bothers addressing the logistics of how Wakanda created and maitains all of this, or if that's just glossed over, because there are some interesting questions there particularly at a time when Wakanda was in a state of decline.
[QUOTE=Ziggiyy;3123689]Read the solo issue yesterday.
It seems like Editorial has reigned Coates in because, surprisingly, there is ZERO T’Challa punking in the entire issue. The Midnight Angels listen to T’Challa’s orders with no back talk or insults. Storm isn’t present to upstage him, and T’Challa actually figures shit
Out on HIS OWN without having to rely on Shuri. In fact he schools her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cville;3123710]Haven't read, but that is the feeling I'm getting too.[/QUOTE]
I don't plan on reading it, but this feeling that you're getting, that Ziggiyy is getting... I'm getting. :eek:
Whoa.
Hahah @ at the 5s and 6s out of 10s though. So BP is (marginally?) better even tho the story isn't?
Sounds like a baby step forward... at least until, yknow, Klaw conquers Wakanda.
Bast Bless
[QUOTE=Rumble;3123730]I don't plan on reading it, but this feeling that you're getting, that Ziggiyy is getting... I'm getting. :eek:
Whoa.
Hahah @ at the 5s and 6s out of 10s though. So BP is (marginally?) better even tho the story isn't?
Sounds like a baby step forward... at least until, yknow, Klaw conquers Wakanda.
Bast Bless[/QUOTE]
If Coates could deliver a solid 7 for one arc I'd be happy.
They need to let him go write an affirming, powerful, but low selling Storm solo for 5-6 issues and let someone else write dope stories about dope #### starring one of their marquee characters.
[QUOTE=Ziggiyy;3123689]It seems like Editorial has reigned Coates...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cville;3123710]Haven't read, but that is the feeling I'm getting too.[/QUOTE]
With much respect guys, that doesn't make sense.
The same editorial that gave Coates little to no interference in season 1 and apparently previous issues of of season 2 is suddenly going to reign in Coates, even though the book is doing well digitally and floppy sales are still above cancellation-level throughout this entire time? Why would they do that now?
On top of that, Coates turns in his scripts ahead of time.
Do you guys have any evidence of possible editorial interference? Statements, quotes, etc.
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;3123756]With much respect guys, that doesn't make sense.
The same editorial that gave Coates little to no interference in season 1 and apparently previous issues of of season 2 is suddenly going to reign in Coates, even though is doing well digitally and floppy sales are still above cancellation-level throughout this entire time? Why would they do that now?
On top of that, Coates turns in his scripts ahead of time.
Do you guys have any evidence of possible editorial interference? Statements, quotes, etc.[/QUOTE]
From what I understand Coates turned in his entire second season months and months ago, so honestly I'm sort of doubtful there's any sort of last minute reigning in. That's not to say editorial didn't possibly give imput (that's their job afterall), but if we didn't see that sort of shift earlier in the season I doubt it would effect the current books since again.
And honestly, if they didn't force him to tie into Secret Empire then I'm assuming they're happy letting him do his own thing. Again, don't know any of that for sure since I don't work at marvel... I'm just assuming they're letting him do his thing.
[QUOTE=XPac;3123721]Yeah, but the question is whether or not it's worth it. The cost and the risk I assume has to be considerable.
Coates run began with Wakanda being in pretty bad shape. Their government was stretched thin, and all sorts of crimes were occuring seemingly without the government knowledge. If this was all going on while T'CHalla was building his galactic empire, I think the question needs to be asked whether or not Wakanda was being neglected for this to happen. For the Wakandan military, going from defending a relatively small african nation to defending an entire galactic empire potentially would stretch them consideringly at least in terms of man power (though I don't know that for sure... we're speculating at this point). I would think at least half if not more of the people normally defending Wakanda would have to now be in space securing and defending this galactic empire, potentially meaning that things were slipping through the cracks at home in Wakanda. So theoretically, building this empire could have been the real reason things in Wakanda was in the state that it was.
Course, that's only speculation... Coates hasn't really told this story yet so we'll see. It'll be interesting to see how Coates works this Galactic empire into his existing narrative, because as I said earlier it's a bit of a jarring fit. But that's not to say he can't make it work. We'll see if he even bothers addressing the logistics of how Wakanda created and maitains all of this, or if that's just glossed over, because there are some interesting questions there particularly at a time when Wakanda was in a state of decline.[/QUOTE]
[B]I highly doubt its because this empire otherwise it would of been mentioned, the military was stretched thin because of all the "Fires" popping up in Wakanda. Really the galactic empire seems like it came left filed and very much late as that should of been at the start of the series following up on what SW ended with, not way after the fact. But given its also Coates idea, one will obviously wonder how he will screw it up. Because his track record shows he cant take interesting concepts and ruin them to the point where they were better off as mysterious concepts fans could theorize about, rather then just straight up disappointments[/B]
[QUOTE=memnoch;3119656]Screw attack discusing possible Batman vs Black Panther vid!
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hResPEEgXEw&t=1211s[/url][/QUOTE]
Maaaaan,
Black Panther would whoop Batman's ass!
If we gotta start talking about "buubbu but what if Batman uses his superman-buster suit" or "bububbut in 1 ep of Batman Brave and Bold looney toon cartoon he pulled out a light saber from his utility belt!"... then what are we [I]really[/I] saying here?
Sweet Bast Valhalla
The youtube comments schooled them boys on BP lol
It aint just Batman's offense vs T'Challa's defense. It ain't just a game of keep away from T'Challa's claws. T'Challa got weapons and gadgets too muthafucka. Batman gon have to survive these hits! Energy daggers ya-bitch! Cloaking, short-range teleportation, holograms, grenades, suit can electrocute the ish outta you, that lame force push thing that Coogler is about to make lit, anti-metal claws that's gon cut through Batman's defense like Steph's WH rejection cut through Donald's feelings!
Breh, everyday T'Challa is neutered to needing Eden to do anything with the KotD powers is a blessing to Batman! The day a writer allows BP to use his intellect to built a portal device to access marvel zombie world dimension... oh my!
Tbf, you can tell that none of those guys had ever read a black panther comic... tho the one on the far right knows logically that BP would give that work, even if he couldn't properly articulate as to why. It's cool though, just wait til feb 2018 when 007 T'Chadwick shows the whole world why BP is the Andre Ward/Errol Spence of this damn weight class!
Thanks for providing the link, btw. :D
Bast Bless
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;3123756]With much respect guys, that doesn't make sense.
The same editorial that gave Coates little to no interference in season 1 and apparently previous issues of of season 2 is suddenly going to reign in Coates, even though is doing well digitally and floppy sales are still above cancellation-level throughout this entire time? Why would they do that now?
On top of that, Coates turns in his scripts ahead of time.
Do you guys have any evidence of possible editorial interference? Statements, quotes, etc.[/QUOTE]
He's probably just getting better as a comic writer, that said it's annoying watching someone learn the craft using your favorite character. Especially when he's about to become "ALLLLLLLLLLLLL the way live",
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3123777][B]I highly doubt its because this empire otherwise it would of been mentioned, the military was stretched thin because of all the "Fires" popping up in Wakanda. Really the galactic empire seems like it came left filed and very much late as that should of been at the start of the series following up on what SW ended with, not way after the fact. But given its also Coates idea, one will obviously wonder how he will screw it up. Because his track record shows he cant take interesting concepts and ruin them to the point where they were better off as mysterious concepts fans could theorize about, rather then just straight up disappointments[/B][/QUOTE]
Yes, it does seem to come out of left field. Again, given that Coates didn't actually know Hickmans ending when he wrote the first season it's entirely possible that's essentially what happened. When he found out about Hickmans ending maybe he tried to incorporate it down the line in the second season. As I've said a couple times, the inclusion of a galactic empire is jarring... we'll see whether or not he can find a way to have it make sense or not. If he can, cool. If not... well, these things can happen in comics.
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;3123756]With much respect guys, that doesn't make sense.
The same editorial that gave Coates little to no interference in season 1 and apparently previous issues of of season 2 is suddenly going to reign in Coates, even though is doing well digitally and floppy sales are still above cancellation-level throughout this entire time? Why would they do that now?
On top of that, Coates turns in his scripts ahead of time.
Do you guys have any evidence of possible editorial interference? Statements, quotes, etc.[/QUOTE]
Its just a feeling based in style. The same feeling that led us to believe Coates wasn't behind the Galactic Empire. Aaron had to point it out before Coates tweeted about it. And his response seemed unenthusiastic. Then he tweeted about 18 today saying he loved writing the opening scene with the MA. Which is what I'm use to seeing from him.
Scripts can be changed.
[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3123782]He's probably just getting better as a comic writer, that said it's annoying watching someone learn the craft using your favorite character. Especially when he's about to become "ALLLLLLLLLLLLL the way live",[/QUOTE]
I'd definately say as far as pacing and action goes, we've seem a bit of improvement with Coates in the second season. Though perhaps the action part might be more due to the artists than the writer.
[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3123750]If Coates could deliver a solid 7 for one arc I'd be happy.
[B]They need to let him go write an affirming, powerful, but low selling Storm solo for 5-6 issue[/B]s and let someone else write dope stories about dope #### starring one of their marquee characters.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha @ the bold.
We're on the same page bro. I agree with everything you said. He put in his bid and wasted away precious opportunities to tell his woman's revolt against rapey and misogynist Afrikan men tale, which amounted to nothing but lost readership. He got his chance to tell his LGBT Love and Wakanda: New York story which failed miserably. He even wasted more time with his Misty and Storm teamup book... which was canceled like.. 2 issues in?
Now he actually has to focus on a Black Panther Story about T'Challa being somewhat competent b/c Marvel was like "bruh..." but now he barely even has Stelfreeze except on the occasional covers. Jeezus
[QUOTE=Cville;3123789]Its just a feeling based in style. The same feeling that led us to believe Coates wasn't behind the Galactic Empire. Aaron had to point it out before Coates tweeted about it. And his response seemed unenthusiastic. Then he tweeted about 18 today saying he loved writing the opening scene with the MA. Which is what I'm use to seeing from him.
Scripts can be changed.[/QUOTE]
Here's the thing... Coates went BIG on it.
Yes, Hickmans run alluded to Wakandan space exploration but that didn't necessarily mean we would have an entire galactic empire up and running a few years later. If Coates wasn't particularly in favor of taking the story in this direction he could have made this MUCH smaller. A space colony and a few stories here and there in space frankly would have been more believable. In Star Trek it took earth centirues to become the Federation we are familiar with. Coates is having T'CHalla pull that off in a small handful of years by creating a freaking empire.
For him to go this big I think implies that he has to be willing to really run with this idea, because it essentially is changing the course of the entire mythos from here. It's no longer a story about a hero ruling a small albeit advanced african nation... it's now a story about a character running a galactic empire. That's a huge shift in direction that will effect not only the rest of his run, but frankly every BP run afterwards (assuming this all sticks).
[QUOTE=Ziggiyy;3123689]Read the solo issue yesterday.
It seems like Editorial has reigned Coates in because, surprisingly, there is ZERO T’Challa punking in the entire issue. The Midnight Angels listen to T’Challa’s orders with no back talk or insults. Storm isn’t present to upstage him, and T’Challa actually figures shit
Out on HIS OWN without having to rely on Shuri. In fact he schools her.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't stay optimistic for long. Knowing Coates T'Challa's probably gonna get sonned in the next issue. But hey, he wrote T'Challa in character for the first time in 18 issues. It's progress, I guess....
[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3123782]He's probably just getting better as a comic writer, that said it's annoying watching someone learn the craft using your favorite character. Especially when he's about to become "ALLLLLLLLLLLLL the way live",[/QUOTE]
I hope it's genuine improvement, because quite frankly I don't see Coates leaving the book anytime soon. There's little incentive for him to do so.
The book is going to get a boost via the Legacy initiative. On top of that, it might get a lot of fresh eyeballs due to the movie. His name will be directly tied to a hot creative property due to being the current writer of the BP book during the solo film wave. Even including the Cap rumors, said rumors said Coates was free to continue writing the BP book for as long as his schedule permits.
[QUOTE=Cville;3123658]Poked my head in the Storm thread and now that Wolverine is back the claws are coming out.
The pro BP and Storm fan are going to be guarding the gates. lol[/QUOTE]
I'm sure the BP bashing will be back in full effect, "thanks for giving up your book to Storm but Logan is back so we don't need you anymore"
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;3123813]I hope it's genuine improvement, because quite frankly I don't see Coates leaving the book anytime soon. There's little incentive for him to do so.
The book is going to get a boost via the Legacy initiative. On top of that, it might get a lot of fresh eyeballs due to the movie. His name will be directly tied to a hot creative property due to being the current writer of the BP book during the solo film wave. Even including the Cap rumors, said rumors said Coates was free to continue writing the BP book for as long as his schedule permits.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I honestly think marvel wants Coates name on the BP book when the movie comes out. I think it'll get a little bit of extra mainstream attention. I doubt it'll lead to any sort of massive sales spike (history has shown movies rarely if ever do that for the books), but I do think in the least it'll give the franchise more spotlight.
[QUOTE=Smoov-E;3123820]I'm sure the BP bashing will be back in full effect, "thanks for giving up your book to Storm but Logan is back so we don't need you anymore"[/QUOTE]
It's inevitable at this point. But it's all good, Black Panther is the one with a rising star anyway so I'm not bothered.
[QUOTE=Cville;3123789]Its just a feeling based in style. The same feeling that led us to believe Coates wasn't behind the Galactic Empire. Aaron had to point it out before Coates tweeted about it. And his response seemed unenthusiastic. Then he tweeted about 18 today saying he loved writing the opening scene with the MA. Which is what I'm use to seeing from him.
Scripts can be changed.[/QUOTE]
Scripts being changed and scripts being changed due to editorial interference are two different things.
In addition, sometimes writers gets things right and sometimes they don't, good writers included. Jason Aaron, for example, wrote See Wakanda and Die but he also wrote the infamous AvX issue that featured the BP vs Storm fight.
Regardless of how we feel, the bottom line is that the intergalactic Wakandan Empire thing is Coates' idea. If Coates wasn't enthusiastic in anyway about it, he wouldn't have passed that idea to Aaron, or retweeted Aaron''s tweet or tweet about it himself soon after. That he mentions his love for writing the MA scene doesn't negate that.
How said galactic empire arc is executed, remains to be seen.
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;3123846]Scripts being changed and scripts being changed due to editorial interference are two different things.
In addition, sometimes writers gets things right and sometimes they don't, good writers included. Jason Aaron, for example, wrote See Wakanda and Die but he also wrote the infamous AvX issue that featured the BP vs Storm fight.
Regardless of how we feel, the bottom line is that the intergalactic Wakandan Empire thing is Coates' idea. If Coates wasn't enthusiastic in anyway about it, he wouldn't have passed that idea to Aaron, or retweeted Aaron''s tweet or tweet about it himself soon after. That he mentions his love for writing the MA scene doesn't negate that.[/QUOTE]
So you are saying the breakup was Aarons idea or Marvels?
Sometimes writers are just there to write what the company says.
[QUOTE=Cville;3123854]So you are saying the breakup was Aarons idea or Marvels?
Sometimes writers are just there to write what the company says.[/QUOTE]
Frankly I think Coates is one of the last writers to just write whatever marvel wants him to write. Writing comic books isn't his day job. If he couldn't write the stories he wanted to right, he probably wouldn't bother doing this at all.
[QUOTE=Cville;3123854]So you are saying the breakup was Aarons idea or Marvels?
Sometimes writers are just there to write what the company says.[/QUOTE]
I'm strictly talking about the fight, not the break up in general. I'm saying that despite Aaron's talent and BP writing history, a lot of us wouldn't have expected him to write the breakup the way it went down.
Even if one wants to argue that Aaron wrote that (the fight) because it was an event book and thus there was editorial interference, Coates is not writing an event book. He's writing a book that editorial has given him a lot of leeway and said book is still selling overall.
Hence why I asked why would editorial suddenly interfere now. Would've been one thing if the book was failing financially but it isn't.
Truthfully, I think Coates probably started reading more back issues of Black Panther, rather than just Hickman's stuff and stuff the Marvel suggested prior to his run. It's pretty tough to be immersed in BP mythos and not want to expand the scale. Unless you are Maberry, then you think, "This is unbelievable, these guys are too powerful, better have Doom destroy it."
Is it still considered pushback if you ask how the Wakandans got a galactic empire in between BP #18 and Legacy #1?
Or does Legacy #1 take place in the future (I'm not buying these overpriced Event Number #1s so I really don't know)?
(Checks Comixology for more info)
P.S.: @#%$%ing 5.99 for Legacy Number 1!
Really, Marvel?
[QUOTE=Smoov-E;3123820]I'm sure the BP bashing will be back in full effect, "thanks for giving up your book to Storm but Logan is back so we don't need you anymore"[/QUOTE]
And I would respond, "Y'all realize you are basically bragging that your favorite character is just Karen Page or MJ with superpowers now, right? If she isn't leading anything, and is just a featured guest [B]AT BEST[/B] on the album, she's a back up singer. Now, doo-wap-sha-doop-out the thread."
[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3123904]And I would respond, "Y'all realize you are basically bragging that your favorite character is just Karen Page or MJ with superpowers now, right? If she isn't leading anything, and is just a featured guest [B]AT BEST[/B] on the album, she's a back up singer. Now, doo-wap-sha-doop-out the thread."[/QUOTE]
Let them talk shit, at the end of the day Black Panther is the character moving on to bigger and better things while Storm is gonna become wallpaper once more when she inevitably breaks up with Black Panther again.
Hopefully Marvel brings Rembert Browne back to work on something. It sucks his dope issue had to be tacked on to the end of that awful WoW series.
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;3123873]I'm strictly talking about the fight, not the break up in general. I'm saying that despite Aaron's talent and BP writing history, a lot of us wouldn't have expected him to write the breakup the way it went down.
Even if one wants to argue that Aaron wrote that (the fight) because it was an event book and thus there was editorial interference, Coates is not writing an event book. He's writing a book that editorial has given him a lot of leeway and said book is still selling overall.
Hence why I asked why would editorial suddenly interfere now. Would've been one thing if the book was failing financially but it isn't.[/QUOTE]
And his leeway got him listed as 100 for preorders a couple months ago which is the deciding factor for success. Can't be some kids Spiderman hanging around those levels. So maybe instead of writing something he wants to read he is deciding to writes something BP fans want to read. Its still wait and see at this point.
[QUOTE=Smoov-E;3123820]I'm sure the BP bashing will be back in full effect, "[B]thanks for giving up your book to Storm but Logan is back so we don't need you anymore[/B]"[/QUOTE]
All things considered, that's relatively polite, short and sweet.
"We're glad that you were such a sucker to take us back in, but it's not you.. it's us... well no.. it's actually you, it's always your fault.. but we'll come back to your sorry ass next time its convenient for us. Have a blessed day."
^^ Now that's how they should [I]really[/I] rub it in!
[QUOTE=BlackClaw;3123915]Let them talk shit, at the end of the day Black Panther is the character moving on to bigger and better things while Storm is gonna become wallpaper once more when she inevitably breaks up with Black Panther again.[/QUOTE]
We're winning the long game. I would prefer they talk shit in the short term... people like you and I aren't phased because we saw this coming from a mile away... and we know the shift that's happening on Valentine's Weekend 2018.
The short term ish talk is more beneficial for those who still like getting played by the same girl over and over no matter how many times their homeboys tell him ain't nothing gon change if you accept her back yet [I]again[/I]. It is what it is
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;3123902]Is it still considered pushback if you ask how the Wakandans got a galactic empire in between BP #18 and Legacy #1?
Or does Legacy #1 take place in the future (I'm not buying these overpriced Event Number #1s so I really don't know)?
(Checks Comixology for more info)
P.S.: @#%$%ing 5.99 for Legacy Number 1!
Really, Marvel?[/QUOTE]
[B]I think it is supposed to have taken place after secret wars ended till now. [/B]
[QUOTE=Cville;3123974]And his leeway got him listed as 100 for preorders a couple months ago which is the deciding factor for success. Can't be some kids Spiderman hanging around those levels. So maybe instead of writing something he wants to read he is deciding to writes something BP fans want to read. Its still wait and see at this point.[/QUOTE]
[B]Well it really says alot if this is the type of character he wanted to read as a kid. Deflated, castrated, sorry weak sucker of a man who lets people talk shit about him and commit crimes and he WAVES them of all crimes and still lets them talk shit to him? Thats what he wanted to see as a kid, and thinks thats what young black boys should aspire to.....[/B]