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[QUOTE=XPac;3531146]Things certainly don't look good for Steve there... and it's almost certain that Thanos wins that fight.
Given everyone knows that the next couple Avenger movies might be the last appearances for some of these actors I'll wager they are intentionally trying to make it look like Steve might die (even though I don't see him going out like that).[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Cap's surprised Thanos. That will be about it, I suspect
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3531166][B] Except who cares? This isn't about making Wakanda adopt other countries governments. Comics aren't about trying to make the world of comics as Real to our world.thwy have a system in which anybody can be ruler, anybody is capable of doing it, by Their own merit's. Each tribe (in the MCU) selects representative that they would want to rule if they chose so. That is unique and interesting, especially because the Black panther is the protector of Wakanda. You want the best guy for the job[/B][/QUOTE]
Plus the honorable Mr. Putin has been Prime Minister and President in tandem which shows a nice a flaw in the modernize system of the government.
[QUOTE=XPac;3530829]It is sort of hard not to allow your mind to go there.
From the Wakandans perspective, T'Challa JUST came into power. He them immediately opens up Wakanda to the rest of the world, seemingly offers to allow the Avengers into Wakanda to protect them, and gets invaded in a conflict I suspect Wakanda will lose because Thanos likely needs the stones. Though we as readers can recognize that T'Challa is doing the right thing here, for the Wakandans that might be a bitter pill to swallow.
Infinity War does leave an opening to address a lot of the issues Coates delt with after a Thanos invasion in his run. It's actually MORE likely to since T'Challa JUST came into power, and Wakanda is IMMEDIATELY invaded.
That said, like all movie adaptations it's not going to be a direct translation of the comic even if they do decide to go there. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing the Wakandan ghost army we saw at the end of Coates run on the big screen. That would be kinda cool.[/QUOTE]
That's a valid point, but to be fair, the attack comes not from a foreign country, but alien invaders
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3531166][B] Except who cares? This isn't about making Wakanda adopt other countries governments. Comics aren't about trying to make the world of comics as Real to our world.thwy have a system in which anybody can be ruler, anybody is capable of doing it, by Their own merit's. Each tribe (in the MCU) selects representative that they would want to rule if they chose so. That is unique and interesting, especially because the Black panther is the protector of Wakanda. You want the best guy for the job[/B][/QUOTE]
I'd say at least SOME of the people who ended up with Killmonger as their ruler when he beat T'CHalla cared a little bit about what was happening. Maybe just maybe if their ruler decides he wants to essentially declare war with the rest of the planet, the idea of voting to SOME might at least not sound like such a bad idea.
We'll see. Obviously that issue was addressed in the comics. Whether the movie decides to do the same remains to be seen. There certainly is a window to do it post Infinity War, if they want to go that route.
[QUOTE=The Cool Thatguy;3531212]That's a valid point, but to be fair, the attack comes not from a foreign country, but alien invaders[/QUOTE]
True, but why are the alien invaders there in the first place? As far as we know Wakanda doesn't have an infinity stone. If T'Challa is essentially using Wakanda to protect a stone, he's basically placing Wakanda in danger to serve the greater good.
And that's arguably the right thing to do, because in the bigger picture stopping Thanos is more importan than anything else. Just like protecting the Avengers from the P5 and house the Black Order was arguably the right thing to do. But that still didn't make the Wakandans necessarily feel good about taking a hit. T'Challa rather than minding his own business is optiong to use Wakanda to help... and they may end up paying a price for that just like in the comics. But we'll see.
For those avoiding trailers and press releases.
[spoil] Based on interviews, it looks like Wakanda is the last best hope of preventing Thanos from completting the gauntlet. And the new trailer clarifies that if he gets it, he will wipe out half the universe at the snap of his finger. If Tchalla and wakanda dont help, they risk being part of that half.[/spoil]
[QUOTE=XPac;3531257]True, but why are the alien invaders there in the first place? As far as we know Wakanda doesn't have an infinity stone. If T'Challa is essentially using Wakanda to protect a stone, he's basically placing Wakanda in danger to serve the greater good.
And that's arguably the right thing to do, because in the bigger picture stopping Thanos is more importan than anything else. Just like protecting the Avengers from the P5 and house the Black Order was arguably the right thing to do. But that still didn't make the Wakandans necessarily feel good about taking a hit. T'Challa rather than minding his own business is optiong to use Wakanda to help... and they may end up paying a price for that just like in the comics. But we'll see.[/QUOTE]
I dont think it will be a problem for the movie because of the one line from the first trailer that makes it different from its comic counterparts. [spoil]"Evacuate the city, engage all defenses."[/spoil] Had he done that for AvX and The Incursion event, he wouldn't have had a problem later. The incursion not so much as it was all undone later anyway.
I have a fun question. If the action is similar to the other Avengers movies, what kind of combo movie would be cool to see with BP? (IM rebounding repulsor off Caps shield/Hulk and Thor on flying worm)
[QUOTE=XPac;3531257]. But we'll see.[/QUOTE]
Black Panther will be questioned in universe and by fans for every decision he ever makes.
Not taking care of every Black person who ever lived
Helping Avengers against aliens
Leaving Nakia for a mutie
Etc etc
[QUOTE=Cville;3531377]I dont think it will be a problem for the movie because of the one line from the first trailer that makes it different from its comic counterparts. [spoil]"Evacuate the city, engage all defenses."[/spoil] Had he done that for AvX and The Incursion event, he wouldn't have had a problem later. The incursion not so much as it was all undone later anyway.[/QUOTE]
I'll certainly be less of a problem, as ates are being taken to mitigate potential loss.
Still not entirely sure some won't be unhappy that Wakanda is bring used here ... but in the least he's being smart about it.
[QUOTE=ChildOfTheAtom;3531393]Black Panther will be questioned in universe and by fans for every decision he ever makes.
Not taking care of every Black person who ever lived
Helping Avengers against aliens
Leaving Nakia for a mutie
Etc etc[/QUOTE]
Or alternatively, not leaving Nakia for a Mutie.
[QUOTE=BlackClaw;3531401]Or alternatively, not leaving Nakia for a Mutie.[/QUOTE]
If marvel cast a light skin storm and black panther gets with her black Twitter will have a heart Attack. And T'challa will officially be a villain
[QUOTE=ChildOfTheAtom;3531408]If marvel cast a light skin storm and black panther gets with her black Twitter will have a heart Attack. And T'challa will officially be a villain[/QUOTE]
Lol, nah I doubt Marvel would be that stupid. Especially if Coogler is still gonna be in the drivers seat for BP sequels going forward. Besides T’kia for life.
[QUOTE=BlackClaw;3531415]Lol, nah I doubt Marvel would be that stupid. Especially if Coogler is still gonna be in the drivers seat for BP sequels going forward.[/QUOTE]
Yeah its more just making fun of the ridiculous scrutiny black panther faces that none of the other characters have to deal with accept Spider-Man (his fans are more like the kid in the Sand box who doesn't like sharing the toys with anyone).
But it's like every decision T'Challa makes everyone questions him.
[QUOTE=ChildOfTheAtom;3531423]Yeah its more just making fun of the ridiculous scrutiny black panther faces that none of the other characters have to deal with accept Spider-Man (his fans are more like the kid in the Sand box who doesn't like sharing the toys with anyone).
But it's like every decision T'Challa makes everyone questions him.[/QUOTE]
To a degree, that's understandable because of who he is. He isn't just a super hero... he's a king, and the decision he makes don't just effect him. They effect his nation (well, minus the dating one).
Him choosing to help the Avengers potentially places his nation in danger. So that's not just his life... that's hundreds, maybe thousands of lives potentially being placed in danger. But sometimes being a super hero and a king don't necessarily compliment each other.
I will say that's part of what makes BP interesting though. His actions do raise these sort of questions, and that makes the choices he makes a lot more complex at times.