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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1749413]Ive mentioned it beforr but,
Sparta, an isolationist ish culture of warriors who had an FU attitude a lot had two kings...
Just bc leonidas went off to battle didnt mean there wasnt someone back jome to rule
It makes since for warriors where the king is also a general[/QUOTE]
[B]I still think it's best to have a King/Queen then the BP chieftain, both separated but equally power positions, and that way it can free them up to have them do their own things but still represent Wakanda and its best interests. And then you can alternate and have either one of them travel outside Wakanda (sometimes Shuri might need to leave) and gonob adventures [/B]
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[QUOTE=ZeroBG82;1749452]Yes. See Uncanny Inhumans and A-Force.[/QUOTE]
Medusa is sort of a model of how they potentially could handle Shuri, theoretically at least.
Of course you'll again get similar issues you get with T'Challa as far as him off playing super hero rather than being a ruler of their nation... but honestly suchs issues are secondary to having the character used as much as possible at least in regards to raising the profile of said character.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1749502]Medusa is sort of a model of how they potentially could handle Shuri, theoretically at least.
Of course you'll again get similar issues you get with T'Challa as far as him off playing super hero rather than being a ruler of their nation... but honestly suchs issues are secondary to having the character used as much as possible at least in regards to raising the profile of said character.[/QUOTE]
A good writer can come up with a good reason for either T'Challa or Shuri to be outside of the country and doing stuff. It's not that complicated.
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[QUOTE=ZeroBG82;1749452]Yes. See Uncanny Inhumans and A-Force.[/QUOTE]
Haven't read that book but out of curiousity, has that impacted on her ability to be Queen of the Inhumans?
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1749519]A good writer can come up with a good reason for either T'Challa or Shuri to be outside of the country and doing stuff. It's not that complicated.[/QUOTE]
David Liss had no problem doing this in his [B]Kingpin of Wakanda[/B] saga.
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1749519]A good writer can come up with a good reason for either T'Challa or Shuri to be outside of the country and doing stuff. It's not that complicated.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the reason is called saving the world:)
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1749519]A good writer can come up with a good reason for either T'Challa or Shuri to be outside of the country and doing stuff. It's not that complicated.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the reason is called saving the world:)
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It's only an issue if the writers decide to write a story where it's a issue. At one point Wolverine was on like 3 X-men teams, 2 different Avengers squads [I]and[/I] had a solo. A couple of times characters in the comic lampshaded this situation but it was never discussed as a problem.
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[QUOTE=ed2962;1749588]It's only an issue if the writers decide to write a story where it's a issue. At one point Wolverine was on like 3 X-men teams, 2 different Avengers squads [I]and[/I] had a solo. A couple of times characters in the comic lampshaded this situation but it was never discussed as a problem.[/QUOTE]
Essentially that's how it works. It's fiction and you can do that. It's why T'Challa can be a school teacher in the states while he's king of a nation on the other side of the planet. No one in Wakanda minds as long as the writer doesn't explicitly decide that they mind.
Of course in T'Challa's case there have been times of unrest in Wakanda... during his initial stint in the Avengers it seemed like there was literally a coup going on everytime he went home. But again that's the choice of the writer. Just like it was Hudlins choice to show that council take issues with T'Challa being off in space battling zombies while US battleships were off the coast of Wakanda and Coatess choice to start some sort of revolution in Wakanda. Stuff like that only happens when writers feel like it. They're logical stories to tell... but strictly speaking they don't have to be told.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;1749556]Yeah, the reason is called saving the world:)[/QUOTE]
And that's what justifies T'Challa (in his mind at least) not only spending as much time away from Wakanda as he does, but at times even placing Wakanda in the line of fire for the greater good. Wakanda is a part of the world... if the scale of the problem is large enough, there's no conflict of interest there.
So in the least for the BIG stuff you really don't need to justify T'Challa or Shuri's involvement in anything. It's the smaller issues where it sort of becomes a bit more questionable.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1749618]And that's what justifies T'Challa (in his mind at least) not only spending as much time away from Wakanda as he does, but at times even placing Wakanda in the line of fire for the greater good. Wakanda is a part of the world... if the scale of the problem is large enough, there's no conflict of interest there.
So in the least for the BIG stuff you really don't need to justify T'Challa or Shuri's involvement in anything. It's the smaller issues where it sort of becomes a bit more questionable.[/QUOTE]
[B]It's a situation where you don't want T'Challa constantly out doing super hero work fighting thugs ;)but taking big threats, which is why him being on the Ultimates works well because it's large scale. He needs to be on large scale heavy hitting A list teams not street level, unless it was for a small time, but he should mainly stay with heavy stuff[/B]
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[url]http://mangaraw.net/king-include/uploads/a4L5VqQ_700b.jpg[/url]
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Let's be honest, if we can:
How many days out of the year is Obama, Cameron or Merkel actually at their respective government homes? All heads of state and government travel, be it for political reasons or personal.
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[QUOTE=MrHashasheen;1749753]Let's be honest, if we can:
How many days out of the year is Obama, Cameron or Merkel actually at their respective government homes? All heads of state and government travel, be it for political reasons or personal.[/QUOTE]
I haven't received any PM's from you yet.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1749772]I haven't received any PM's from you yet.[/QUOTE]
:confused: Sent two to you and Realholydeal. They're titled Codex - Shuri (P1 & P2) and Codex - Shuri (P3 & P4).
Resending to you only, now. Let me know if it doesn't work, so I can just post here instead.
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[QUOTE=MrHashasheen;1749753]Let's be honest, if we can:
How many days out of the year is Obama, Cameron or Merkel actually at their respective government homes? All heads of state and government travel, be it for political reasons or personal.[/QUOTE]
Sure, but it's not like Angela Merkel when she's out of the country is helping the CIA/FBI kick in the doors of terrorists and mobsters.
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[QUOTE=ed2962;1749842]Sure, but it's not like Angela Merkel when she's out of the country is helping the CIA/FBI kick in the doors of terrorists and mobsters.[/QUOTE]
Bet it would improve her approval ratings, though. :p
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It seems PMs don't seem to be working, so I'm just putting my Shuri stuff here for public review. Obviously not fully fleshed out, so yeah...
[QUOTE]
Okay, thinking about Shuri a little more...
[B] 1. Shuri probably holds dual-citizenship as both South African and Wakandan. At the very least, she can apply for it.[/B]
According to the current nationality laws of South Africa (circa 1995), the definition of a South African citizen by birth is such: Persons born in South Africa before October 6, 1995. Persons born in or out of wedlock on or after October 6, 1995 if one of his or her parents is either a South African citizen or a permanent resident.
This creates an easy, immediate grounding for Shuri, with ties unique to herself and her mother (and perhaps Hunter, but I'll get into that a little bit later). She has grandparents and uncles and aunts and cousins completely unrelated to her father's side or Wakanda, and from there arises possibilities regarding her back-story.
Did she study in South Africa in university? Can she speak Afrikaan? Where exactly is Ramonda and her family from? Was it one of the Bantustans? How much family does Ramonda exactly have? Are her parents alive? Does she have any brothers or sisters? Favourite cousins or aunts or uncles? Were there further problems with the Pretorious family after Anton was killed?
Any and all of this could be explored in detail should a funeral occur in South Africa, seeing Shuri and her mother Ramonda head on south for it, stirring up old memories and emotions.
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2. How does Shuri see herself in relation to her siblings?[/B]
We know that Shuri was quite envious of T'Challa and somewhat upset he beat her to challenging S'Yan, but we also know the two siblings became quite close over time (perhaps more as they got older), with T'Challa given a lot of trust by Shuri not exactly reciprocated during Hickman's run (not leave to kick up that argument again!). We don't see much reference to either Hunter or Jakarra from Shuri's perspective, but I can make some small guesses as to why.
In Jakarra's case, I've mentally slotted him as the oldest of the four children (with Hunter second). We know he's got his jealousy and perhaps even Napoleon complexes regarding the throne of Wakanda, and that he was killed during his coup attempt against T'Challa. I've previously positioned Jakarra's coup as post-McGregor (in-line with his IRL debut under Kirby) and placed Hunter's exile quite early on in T'Challa's reign, which leaves a lot of time for the two brothers to have had their influence on Shuri with T'Challa going about the greater world. In Hunter's case, I'd take his fondness for Ramonda to result in a mix of slight resentment of Shuri but a significant brotherly love as well, perhaps protective in some respects.
With T'Challa absent, S'Yan acting as king and Jakarra probably the most detached out of the four siblings to the rest, he might have even acted as a pseudo-father figure in some respects, regardless of how Shuri might have felt about the actions of the Hatut Zeraze against her fellow countrymen. Clearly she had no problem using them as Queen of Wakanda and they followed her quite loyally, so it's not unlikely she and Hunter got along quite well. In some ways, she's probably his protege in certain aspects, enough so that the Hatut Zeraze would see her as a suitable successor for Hunter.
Back to Jakarra... I don't know really. I feel that Jakarra's own physical drawbacks would draw him into research and fabled elixirs and his own little coterie of hanger-ons, even as he served in the Wakandan military. I'd imagine in some ways he might have really disliked Shuri himself, having been largely supplanted by the later children of his father and the women who caught his eye. After all, he's a half-sibling to T'Challa, meaning N'Yami wasn't his mother and neither was Ramonda. It adds to the complexity of Wakandan royal politics and successions, but at the same time establishes the grievances Jakarra has as somewhat understandable as he goes down the dark path to become a vibranium-tainted monster.
[B]
3. What is Shuri's relationship with her parents?[/B]
I know, I know that T'Chaka was still alive according to Hudlin when Shuri was alive. I totally get that.
That being said, I find it kind of same-y to have all four children around with the same memories of T'Chaka as a father and Ramonda as a mother/step-mother. A little variety in their upbringing wouldn't hurt, you know?
For me, I've steadily begun to entertain the idea of Ramonda giving birth to Shuri around the same time T'Chaka died in battle, for dramatic purposes. The daughter born as the father lived, one Black Panther succeeded by another. It gives Shuri an immediate tie-in to the events of her father's death that while removed add to the gravitas of the situation. Make no mistake, I view T'Chaka's death in battle much the same in terms of influence and impact as Pearl Harbor might be on the Americans of the 40s. A traumatic climactic battle with a great deal of characters and people touched by the outcome and the events that occurred.
Add to that that Ramonda was kidnapped and held prisoner by Anton Pretorious, and recall that her rescue happened post-McGregor, then that's a long time for a girl to be without her mother, if T'Challa has already become Black Panther. This further adds into what I talked about previously regarding her close relationship with Hunter as a pseudo-parent figure, as well as sets up conflicting emotions within Shuri regarding T'Challa, both in relation to him exiling Hunter and because now he's rescued this stranger who apparently is her long-lost mother.
This stranger that she has to bond with again, and rediscover even as said stranger is struggling through her own traumas. Can you imagine how difficult that must have been for both of them, bringing the two of them closer and further at different times?
Dramatic birth, dramatic parental reunion, dramatic sibling interrelationships. All completely identifiable with Shuri and Shuri alone.
That being said, I am thinking of shifting Ramonda's rescue entirely on Shuri instead of T'Challa, to further strengthen her personal background plus it comes off as much more meaningful for the daughter to rescue the mother, and it gives them more time together instead of shrinking that timeline to make allowances for T'Challa doing it as Black Panther. A daughter-mother ass-kicking of the Pretorious family seems sound to me, plus then I can set up some Pretorius relative (brother, daughter, cousin, etc...) as a rogue to Shuri down the line.
[B]
4. What is Shuri's place within Wakanda?[/B]
Still working on this, obviously.[/QUOTE]
So yeah, thoughts?
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[QUOTE=MrHashasheen;1750207]It seems PMs don't seem to be working, so I'm just putting my Shuri stuff here for public review. Obviously not fully fleshed out, so yeah...
So yeah, thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Still working on #4 lol.
However, I think I can answer one question: "Does she know Afrikaans?" As a native tongue? I doubt it. From what I know, Afrikaans generally is spoken among the white South Africans, specifically the Boers. However, it is taught as a second language to many others in SA. (If I'm off base, feel free to correct me, everyone). Thus, assuming Shuri wasn't raised in SA, I doubt she knows the language much if at all, initially.
Now, does she speak one of the other languages in SA, such as Zulu and Xhosian? That would depend on Ramonda's ethnicity, as well as if she was multilingual in SA. Zulu and Xhosian are the first and second most spoken first languages in the country, so there's a chance Shuri, through Ramonda, knows one of those languages.
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1750557]Still working on #4 lol.
However, I think I can answer one question: "Does she know Afrikaans?" As a native tongue? I doubt it. From what I know, Afrikaans generally is spoken among the white South Africans, specifically the Boers. However, it is taught as a second language to many others in SA. (If I'm off base, feel free to correct me, everyone). Thus, assuming Shuri wasn't raised in SA, I doubt she knows the language much if at all.
Now, does she speak one of the other languages in SA, such as Zulu and Xhosian? That would depend on Ramonda's ethnicity, as well as if she was multilingual in SA. Zulu and Xhosian are the first and second most spoken first languages in the country, so there's a chance Shuri, through Ramonda, knows one of those languages.[/QUOTE]
Couldnt she picked up these languages through tutors. Its not like she doesnt come from an affluent family.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;1750607]Couldnt she picked up these languages through tutors. Its not like she doesnt come from an affluent family.[/QUOTE]
In theory, yes she could, but you could say that for any language. I was going with which SA language she's most likely to learn initially in relation to her ancestry.
Being that Shuri wasn't raised in SA, it would be unlikely that she'd learn Afrikaans outside of tutoring. The other languages? That would depend on Ramonda's ethnicity and thus her side of the family.
EDIT: Now, could she down the line learn Afrikaans, as well as other languages (T'Challa is multilingual, makes sense for her to be as well)? Absolutely (I made a minor edit to my previous post to reflect this, btw).
Of course, if I'm off base somewhere, feel free to correct me, everyone.
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Was discussing BP with someone else online and he brought up a good point...
If T'Challa went back prior to the incursions and had knowledge of everything that happened, and there were no incursions happening or a war with atlantis, and perhaps no encounter with Thanos and the Black order....why is there civil unrest in the Coates run in the first place?
Have we missed something, by any chance?
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1750981]Was discussing BP with someone else online and he brought up a good point...
If T'Challa went back prior to the incursions and had knowledge of everything that happened, and there were no incursions happening or a war with atlantis, and perhaps no encounter with Thanos and the Black order....why is there civil unrest in the Coates run in the first place?
Have we missed something, by any chance?[/QUOTE]
I'm not entirely certain what we saw was exactly a time reboot that erased everything that happened in Time Runs Out. People still seem to remember it. Or at least some people.
But assuming for a moment that T'Challa did essentially erase everything that happened in Hickmans run, I suppose in theory AvX alone is enough to justify some degree of unrest. T'CHalla and Shuri did essentially paint a bullseye on Wakanda. Not saying they did the wrong thing... but Wakanda took a big hit there and some Wakandans might not be happy about that. If the attack on Atlantis by Wakanda essentially never happened, SOME Wakandans are probably ticked that T'Challa essentially stood by and did nothing in response to the attack. We clearly saw SOME were not happy about the idea of NOT attacking Atlantis when the peace treaty was debated in Hickman's book.
Going back a bit further, Doom War essentially began with a military coup with the Desturi. Where there's coups, there's unrest. Even going all the way back to T'Challa's first run on Avengers, it almost seemed like there was a coup in Wakanda everytime he visited home (perhaps being a clue to T'Challa that moving halfway across the planet to be a school teacher in Harlem maybe wasn't the best idea in the world).
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1750981]Was discussing BP with someone else online and he brought up a good point...
If T'Challa went back prior to the incursions and had knowledge of everything that happened, and there were no incursions happening or a war with atlantis, and perhaps no encounter with Thanos and the Black order....why is there civil unrest in the Coates run in the first place?
Have we missed something, by any chance?[/QUOTE]
That's the issue.
Marvel didn't do a dream sequence ending where none of it happened. It still happened just everyone (although it seems like most of the world) know that it did. It's confusing
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1750981]Was discussing BP with someone else online and he brought up a good point...
If T'Challa went back prior to the incursions and had knowledge of everything that happened, and there were no incursions happening or a war with atlantis, and perhaps no encounter with Thanos and the Black order....why is there civil unrest in the Coates run in the first place?
Have we missed something, by any chance?[/QUOTE]
Namor's attack on Wakanda had already occured prior to the first Incursion so, the two nations were already at war.
The civil unrest may very well stem from everyday Wakanda citizens getting fed up with T'Challa's constant association with outsiders that invariably always ends up causing massive loss of Wakandan lives.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1751062]I'm not entirely certain what we saw was exactly a time reboot that erased everything that happened in Time Runs Out. People still seem to remember it. Or at least some people.
But assuming for a moment that T'Challa did essentially erase everything that happened in Hickmans run, I suppose in theory AvX alone is enough to justify some degree of unrest. T'CHalla and Shuri did essentially paint a bullseye on Wakanda. Not saying they did the wrong thing... but Wakanda took a big hit there and some Wakandans might not be happy about that. If the attack on Atlantis by Wakanda essentially never happened, SOME Wakandans are probably ticked that T'Challa essentially stood by and did nothing in response to the attack. We clearly saw SOME were not happy about the idea of NOT attacking Atlantis when the peace treaty was debated in Hickman's book.
Going back a bit further, Doom War essentially began with a military coup with the Desturi. Where there's coups, there's unrest. Even going all the way back to T'Challa's first run on Avengers, it almost seemed like there was a coup in Wakanda everytime he visited home (perhaps being a clue to T'Challa that moving halfway across the planet to be a school teacher in Harlem maybe wasn't the best idea in the world).[/QUOTE]
I guess so...then in that case Coates will have to make this "civil unrest" story really different. As you mentioned, its been done before and often.
[QUOTE=Ekie;1751065]That's the issue.
Marvel didn't do a dream sequence ending where none of it happened. It still happened just everyone (although it seems like most of the world) know that it did. It's confusing[/QUOTE]
...I'm still confused lol.
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1751070]Namor's attack on Wakanda had already occured prior to the first Incursion so, the two nations were already at war.
The civil unrest may very well stem from everyday Wakanda citizens getting fed up with T'Challa's constant association with outsiders that invariably always ends up causing massive loss of Wakandan lives.[/QUOTE]
I was think that the attack by Namor could be the catalyst, but you'd think such unrest may have been mentioned in NA at the time (then again, the incursions were the priority, in Hickman's defense). Maybe its because Wakanda doesn't go in full retaliation mode, like Xpac said. Several Wakandans were eager for payback. Which begs the question: how does T'Challa prevent war with Atlantis this time around, if he couldn't do it when the incursions were happening?
Now, if indeed its T'Challa being associated with outsiders specifically and thus the loss of life that came with it...welp...they kinda have a point. What I also wonder is will they place the blame on the entire royal family (and thus, the monarchy) or specifically him. It appears that it will be the former.
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1751105]I guess so...then in that case Coates will have to make this "civil unrest" story really different. As you mentioned, its been done before and often.
...I'm still confused lol.
I was think that the attack by Namor could be the catalyst, but you'd think such unrest may have been mentioned in NA at the time (then again, the incursions were the priority, in Hickman's defense). Maybe its because Wakanda doesn't go in full retaliation mode, like Xpac said. Several Wakandans were eager for payback. Which begs the question: how does T'Challa prevent war with Atlantis this time around, if he couldn't do it when the incursions were happening?
Now, if indeed its T'Challa being associated with outsiders specifically and thus the loss of life that came with it...welp...they kinda have a point. What I also wonder is will they place the blame on the entire royal family (and thus, the monarchy) or specifically him. It appears that it will be the former.[/QUOTE]
This Civil Unrest story sounds like it'll be different, in that I think it'll actually bring about change. Previous ones were essentially rebellions or uprising that were put down by punching out the bad guy responsible for it. But from the sound of it at least, I think Coatess plans on actually having Wakanda address the causes of unrest, perhaps having it change with the times. I think it'll address the problems rather than the symptoms of the problem/. But we'll see.
As far as preventing war with Atlantis... this time around T'CHalla is actually in charge. They only go to war if he says they go to war (that's the upside or downside of a monarchy depending on how you look at it). If Namor and T'Challa jointly decide their nations are no longer at war then they are no longer at war. Simple as that. If the people and the military don't like it, they really can't do anything about it ... short of a coup that is.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1751144]As far as preventing war with Atlantis... this time around T'CHalla is actually in charge. They only go to war if he says they go to war (that's the upside or downside of a monarchy depending on how you look at it). If Namor and T'Challa jointly decide their nations are no longer at war then they are no longer at war. Simple as that. If the people and the military don't like it, they really can't do anything about it ... short of a coup that is.[/QUOTE]
Soooo....how did he become in charge? Was he always in charge, in this timeline? Was he in charge during AvX as well? Where is Shuri in all this?
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1751198]Soooo....how did he become in charge? Was he always in charge, in this timeline? Was he in charge during AvX as well? Where is Shuri in all this?[/QUOTE]
Hard to say. In the least he indicated he was on charge when he did the time jump (or whatever that was). And he's king again in Ultimates.
I assume they'll answer the Shuri issues either in the solo book or down the line in Ultimates.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1751209]Hard to say. In the least he indicated he was on charge when he did the time jump (or whatever that was). And he's king again in Ultimates.
I assume they'll answer the Shuri issues either in the solo book or down the line in Ultimates.[/QUOTE]
I hope they do, they pretty much have to. That's as glaring of a plot hole as it gets.
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T'challa is and should always be King of Wakanda. I don't want a western political system.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1751070]Namor's attack on Wakanda had already occured prior to the first Incursion so, the two nations were already at war.
The civil unrest may very well stem from everyday Wakanda citizens getting fed up with T'Challa's constant association with outsiders that invariably always ends up causing massive loss of Wakandan lives.[/QUOTE]
Everytime you decide to blame T'challa for AvX, I am posting this scan
[img]http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6n66lQFz21r9u466o1_1280.png[/img]
Gonna use tactics of spamming the same scans over and over until eyes bleed
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1750981]Was discussing BP with someone else online and he brought up a good point...
If T'Challa went back prior to the incursions and had knowledge of everything that happened, and there were no incursions happening or a war with atlantis, and perhaps no encounter with Thanos and the Black order....why is there civil unrest in the Coates run in the first place?
Have we missed something, by any chance?[/QUOTE]
Supposedly it all happened and peopel vaguely familiar
BUT
if that was the case, Wakanda should be on their knees bowing to the man that fixed the damn thing and brought all of them back from the dead
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1751198]Soooo....how did he become in charge? Was he always in charge, in this timeline? Was he in charge during AvX as well? Where is Shuri in all this?[/QUOTE]
I imagine this is what a solo is for and we might get hint in ultimates here and there.
Shuri ain't htat important to waste precious panel space in SW9 lol. God that book needed tie ins that actually mattered....
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1753088] God that book needed tie ins that actually mattered....[/QUOTE]
Yep. Truer words were never spoken.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1751070]Namor's attack on Wakanda had already occured prior to the first Incursion so, the two nations were already at war.
The civil unrest may very well stem from everyday Wakanda citizens getting fed up with T'Challa's constant association with outsiders that invariably always ends up causing massive loss of Wakandan lives.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, BP goes back to issue one of NA. He isnt the King anymore. King of Necropolis, but not Wakanda. He is of course still a power broker in Wakanda. But all of this is wait and see.
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IMO, the simple answer (and the one they'll probably go with) is: SECRET WARS [SIZE=1](+ 8 Month Jump)[/SIZE]. That's what they did with other books, really. They used SW as a way to "skip" the beginning and go straight to "the meat". I mean, look at all the other ANAD titles: Doctor Strange now doesn't wear gloves and the rules of magic have been re-written. Deadpool has his own "company" and got ultra famous "somehow" (meta comics ftw!), Doctor Doom is back to wearing his usual garb in Squirel Girl (who also defeated Galactus by talking to him... Guess Doreen is a better talker than Carol and Adam), etc, etc. We'll get a passing comment about how he got the throne back or it will be a result of the revolution (meaning it'll happen in issue 2 for example). Best case scenario, we get a few "1-Panel Flashbacks" that will reveal the story in a few issues.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;1753252]Yeah, BP goes back to issue one of NA. He isnt the King anymore. King of Necropolis, but not Wakanda. He is of course still a power broker in Wakanda. But all of this is wait and see.[/QUOTE]
[B]Actually (and im pretty sure it was pointed out here) In issue 1 of NAm the Wakanda youth say my King and T'Challa responds that he is not their king out there where they are at, but at the end of SW they address him as their king and he says "Yes" agreeing that he is their king now It was a subtle change but the second time around he doesn't correct them and so he did change it so that he was king again [/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1753313][B]Actually (and im pretty sure it was pointed out here) In issue 1 of NAm the Wakanda youth say my King and T'Challa responds that he is not their king out there where they are at, but at the end of SW they address him as their king and he says "Yes" agreeing that he is their king now It was a subtle change but the second time around he doesn't correct them and so he did change it so that he was king again [/B][/QUOTE]
I think part of that is because there are some that remember what occured in 616 and that information has transferred over. When Wakanda was destroyed it seems Shuri knew that he was Bast's personal Panther so maybe everyone has that understanding.