Here are all the panels for the return of Ross btw
[url]http://blackpanthermarvel.blogspot.com/2016/08/everett-ross-is-back.html[/url]
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Here are all the panels for the return of Ross btw
[url]http://blackpanthermarvel.blogspot.com/2016/08/everett-ross-is-back.html[/url]
[QUOTE=ed2962;2257925]Storm: Wow, T'Challa...lately you've really been sucking at being leader.
BP: I suck?
Storm: Yes, you.
BP: At being leader?
Storm: Yes, at leading and inspiring people...
BP: So what you're saying is that I suck at being a leader...
Storm: Like a Hoover!
BP: Hmm. I think we should sneak off somewhere a shag.[/QUOTE]
Wow. Sounds just like him. Lol
[QUOTE=ed2962;2257925]Storm: Wow, T'Challa...lately you've really been sucking at being leader.
BP: I suck?
Storm: Yes, you.
BP: At being leader?
Storm: Yes, at leading and inspiring people...
BP: So what you're saying is that I suck at being a leader...
Storm: Like a Hoover!
BP: Hmm. I think we should sneak off somewhere a shag.[/QUOTE]
I love how people are parodying Bendis speak now :p.
[QUOTE=ed2962;2257925]Storm: Wow, T'Challa...lately you've really been sucking at being leader.
BP: I suck?
Storm: Yes, you.
BP: At being leader?
Storm: Yes, at leading and inspiring people...
BP: So what you're saying is that I suck at being a leader...
Storm: Like a Hoover!
BP: Hmm. I think we should sneak off somewhere a shag.[/QUOTE]
....That was hella accurate.
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"Leaked" Black Panther movie stuff from 4chan... read at your own expense. Likely bullshit but whatever...
[spoil]- This is supposed to be an actual political thriller and Marvel's most serious movie by far
- Erik Kilmonger is the main villain. He's a childhood rival of T'Challa and Wakanda's finest warrior. As such, he was supposed to become the Black Panther, who is basically Wakanda's chosen protector but T'Challa took the mantle to avenge his father, which Kilmonger views as T'Challa stealing his purpose, since once a warrior swears the oath and becomes the Panther, they're bonded until the warrior is slain or grooms a successor. So he conspires to usurp the throne alongside Ulysses Klaw
- Nakia is T'Challa and Kilmonger's childhood friend and there's a love triangle between them
- Kilmonger's plan involves the Accords, and amounts to triggering a war between Wakanda and the United Nations over their Vibranium reserves
- Secretary Ross will be heavily featured and Stark is expected to appear as well
- Bucky will have a supporting role and be brought out of ice
- They'll heavily explore the mythology of the Black Panther and the traditions and customs of Wakanda[/spoil]
[spoil] the sentence about T'challa choosing to become BP to avenge his father makes no sense considering he was already black panther when the CW started and T'chaka was still alive. [/spoil]
Most likely BS. That sounds more like M'Baku than Killmonger and I really hope they aren't trying to make Nakia a love interest.
Is there a site where we can see all the alternate covers being released this year for Black Panther? There's been so many and I would like to start saving them.
[QUOTE=UltimateTy;2258301]Most likely BS. That sounds more like M'Baku than Killmonger and I really hope they aren't trying to make Nakia a love interest.[/QUOTE]
They could very easily be combining the characters... take the best of both worlds while eliminating the worst parts (monkeys)
Yeah doesn't seem to fit.
[QUOTE=UltimateTy;2258301]Most likely BS. That sounds more like M'Baku than Killmonger and I really hope they aren't trying to make Nakia a love interest.[/QUOTE]
Your probably right.
I sorta could see them combining M'Baku and Killmonger though.
M'Baku is problematic as heck but he has a better backstory (him and T'challa being former friends turned foes) than Killmonger (who hates T'challa for something that he not only didn't do but would had no way of even knowing about).
Movie Zemo has almost nothing to do with comic Zemo other than being motivated by the death of a relative.
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;2258516]Your probably right.
I sorta could see them combining M'Baku and Killmonger though.
M'Baku is problematic as heck but he has a better backstory (him and T'challa being former friends turned foes) than Killmonger (who hates T'challa for something that he not only didn't do but would had no way of even knowing about).
Movie Zemo has almost nothing to do with comic Zemo other than being motivated by the death of a relative.[/QUOTE]
If you are going the outsider route, Killmonger makes more sense as well.
Although, M'baku in EMH had help from Klaw
[B]It would make sense for them to combine Man ape's and Kilmonger's stories into one character. Though i would love for there to be a reference to the white gorilla cult in the movie. If not oh well[/B]
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2258608][B]It would make sense for them to combine Man ape's and Kilmonger's stories into one character. Though i would love for there to be a reference to the white gorilla cult in the movie. If not oh well[/B][/QUOTE]
I feel the same way. You can't really use both in two separate movies. Even though their ideologies are different... it still boils down to "kill T'challa and take the throne." You can only do that once.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;2258616]I feel the same way. You can't really use both in two separate movies. Even though their ideologies are different... it still boils down to "kill T'challa and take the throne." You can only do that once.[/QUOTE]
I've written a way previously where you can. *shrugs*
[url]https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/768881244784332800[/url]
James Gunn debunked their Guardians synopsis. If they were lying about Guardians they were likely lying about everything else too.
[QUOTE=Holt;2258756][url]https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/768881244784332800[/url]
James Gunn debunked their Guardians synopsis. If they were lying about Guardians they were likely lying about everything else too.[/QUOTE]
Yip, especially since guardiasn is so close to being released. I was just posting it for giggles. Anything is better than Coates talk lol
Guess we may find out with Strange in a couple months.
[QUOTE=Holt;2258756][url]https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/768881244784332800[/url]
James Gunn debunked their Guardians synopsis. If they were lying about Guardians they were likely lying about everything else too.[/QUOTE]
Even if what he says is true ( I think it is)
What's he gonna say other than that? Is he gonna confirm it?
[QUOTE=Ekie;2258836]Even if what he says is true ( I think it is)
What's he gonna say other than that? Is he gonna confirm it?[/QUOTE]
He could ignore it
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;2259125]He could ignore it[/QUOTE]
Which is what they usually are more likely to do if something is completely false. But still I believe the leak is probably off.
But for arguments sake lets say that the leak is somewhat true about Panthers love triangle.
I don't like it. It increases killmonger's (aka MBJ's gifted role) in the movie and at the same time takes away from the character of Nakia. I like the idea of her being a spurned lover trying to get back at T'challa but maybe that's just me. I know she better not be too confused by love interests to kick ass in the movie
I also don't want too much Bucky action in this movie unless it's him getting bested by Killmonger to showcase his skills
Fellow BP fans, if it isn't too much to ask, can you vote for Storm in the Marvel Popularity Tournament here: [url]http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?84497-Marvel-Popularity-Tournament-Round-3[/url]
Please. :)
[QUOTE=Ekie;2259393]But for arguments sake lets say that the leak is somewhat true about Panthers love triangle.
I don't like it. It increases killmonger's (aka MBJ's gifted role) in the movie and at the same time takes away from the character of Nakia. I like the idea of her being a spurned lover trying to get back at T'challa but maybe that's just me. I know she better not be too confused by love interests to kick ass in the movie
I also don't want too much Bucky action in this movie unless it's him getting bested by Killmonger to showcase his skills[/QUOTE]
I don't want Bucky in it at all. There's more than enuff interesting Panther-centric characters to build a story around.
[QUOTE=Ekie;2259393]But for arguments sake lets say that the leak is somewhat true about Panthers love triangle.
I don't like it. It increases killmonger's (aka MBJ's gifted role) in the movie and at the same time takes away from the character of Nakia. I like the idea of her being a spurned lover trying to get back at T'challa but maybe that's just me. I know she better not be too confused by love interests to kick ass in the movie
I also don't want too much Bucky action in this movie unless it's him getting bested by Killmonger to showcase his skills[/QUOTE]
I'm not worried about Killmonger's screentime.
In the history of Marvel, we can confirm that they will NOT sacrifice the main heroes screen time for anyone else, including the villain.
The villain is a one off (typically) thing... T'challa is the franchise. He is the one goign to show up in Infinity War, BP 2, BP 3, Avengers 5, ect.
Killmonger is going over Warrior's Falls and never will be seen again.
The big question to me is... does T'challa get to beat Killmonger or do they keep it like the comics where someone else intervenes at the last second. That has already happened in the MCU (Tony is 0/3 being able to defeat the final villain by himself, 0/4 if you count CW)
The time frame doesn't fit Bucky being dethawed yet. This movie is supposed ot take place right after CW... that means Bucky would have been in ice for all of a minute. Im 50/50 on Bucky's involvement. It would have to be done gracefully for it not to look bad.
[QUOTE=RLAAMJR.;2259734]Fellow BP fans, if it isn't too much to ask, can you vote for Storm in the Marvel Popularity Tournament here: [url]http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?84497-Marvel-Popularity-Tournament-Round-3[/url]
Please. :)[/QUOTE]
I voted for Cyclops
Alright, BP historians, need some help to see if I am missing anything.
Basically, I am looking for the times in BPs books where the HSH or the "right of ascension" was mentioned or hinted at in anyway.
So far, I have found
- Panthers Rage
- Panthers Prey
- Priest run (mephisto arc, killing killmonger, the Kasper's thing)
- Deadliest of the Species
- Klaws of the Panther
- Spider-Man: The Other
Liss's run at a quick scan just mentioned the Panther God spirit leaving him. And I want ot check Gillis mini real quick to see if its actualyl mentioned or not.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;2259846]I'm not worried about Killmonger's screentime.
In the history of Marvel, we can confirm that they will NOT sacrifice the main heroes screen time for anyone else, including the villain.
The villain is a one off (typically) thing... T'challa is the franchise. He is the one goign to show up in Infinity War, BP 2, BP 3, Avengers 5, ect.
Killmonger is going over Warrior's Falls and never will be seen again.
The big question to me is... does T'challa get to beat Killmonger or do they keep it like the comics where someone else intervenes at the last second. That has already happened in the MCU (Tony is 0/3 being able to defeat the final villain by himself, 0/4 if you count CW)
The time frame doesn't fit Bucky being dethawed yet. This movie is supposed ot take place right after CW... that means Bucky would have been in ice for all of a minute. Im 50/50 on Bucky's involvement. It would have to be done gracefully for it not to look bad.[/QUOTE]
[B]I think its likely that T'Challa well beat him. Its very important that it be known that T'Challa is formidable. Though i could of sworn (granted its been awhile) Tony beat iron monger or whoever that ewas by himself. [/B]
[QUOTE=Ekie;2259393]But for arguments sake lets say that the leak is somewhat true about Panthers love triangle.
[B]I don't like it. It increases killmonger's (aka MBJ's gifted role)[/B] in the movie and at the same time takes away from the character of Nakia. I like the idea of her being a spurned lover trying to get back at T'challa but maybe that's just me. I know she better not be too confused by love interests to kick ass in the movie
I also don't want too much Bucky action in this movie unless it's him getting bested by Killmonger to showcase his skills[/QUOTE]
Thing is, Director's personal muse/buddy or no-Michael B. Jordan can act.
He already has a hit movie under his belt.
There are dudes who may be better on screen martial artists and/or look the part of Killmonger but they would not be as good on screen-actingwise.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2260003][B]I think its likely that T'Challa well beat him. Its very important that it be known that T'Challa is formidable. Though i could of sworn (granted its been awhile) Tony beat iron monger or whoever that ewas by himself. [/B][/QUOTE]
Naw, he was defenseless on the ground while Stane was trying to blow him apart but was missing because of his targeting system was broke.
He had Pepper blow the roof to kill Stane.
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;2260004]Thing is, Director's personal muse/buddy or no-Michael B. Jordan can act.
He already has a hit movie under his belt.
There are dudes who may be better on screen martial artists and/or look the part of Killmonger but they would not be as good on screen-actingwise.[/QUOTE]
It is especially important than an MCU villain is a great actor because you are only going to get so much screen time in an MCU movie. They have to be able to make it count. Even doubly so if he is sharing villain screen time with Klaw
[QUOTE=ed2962;2259841]I don't want Bucky in it at all. There's more than enuff interesting Panther-centric characters to build a story around.[/QUOTE]
Cosign....
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;2260006]Naw, he was defenseless on the ground while Stane was trying to blow him apart but was missing because of his targeting system was broke.
He had Pepper blow the roof to kill Stane.[/QUOTE]
Ah I see. Well I think that BP should have a very strong showing in his solo so i think the fight will be high octane combat and both are gonna be beaten and bloody but maybe with T'Challa having the edge.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;2259849]I voted for Cyclops[/QUOTE]
Lmao.......
Bucky should be in the after credits ONLY. This is first solo film.
However, Moving forward, Black Panther should not be treated differently then any other Marvel film. Unless you want to indulge in hypocrisy.
.
[QUOTE=ed2962;2259841]I don't want Bucky in it at all. There's more than enuff interesting Panther-centric characters to build a story around.[/QUOTE]
I'm assuming that Bucky being in Wakanda is part of the overall plan, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered making that end scene credit to begin with.
Which is not to say that it's necessarily a major plot point or anything ... it might or it might not. But I don't think they'd add that plot thread if it wasn't meant to be used.
Besides Shuri, can any of you name any other female Black Panthers that have existed in the 616 MU? We know that other female BP's have been mentioned, but can any of you name them by their actual names? I can't think of any.
[QUOTE=Victor Freeman;2260053]Bucky should be in the after credits ONLY. This is first solo film.
However, Moving forward, Black Panther should not be treated differently then any other Marvel film. Unless you want to indulge in hypocrisy.
.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Should follow the same formula as the other films. First movie: straight solo romp to lay the foundation and mytho. Minimal or no guest appearances, save for the post-credit scenes.
2nd movie and onward: open up the sandbox and allow for the big attraction of the MCU: the cross franchise character interactions.
The 2nd film will likely come sometime after infinity wars, which means the big jar of new MCU heroes will have been popped open
[QUOTE=nj06;2260078]Besides Shuri, can any of you name any other female Black Panthers that have existed in the 616 MU? We know that other female BP's have been mentioned, but can any of you name them by their actual names? I can't think of any.[/QUOTE]
Reg's run implies that she was/would be the first.
That was the Annual that was set in the near future.
You might be thinking of Zawadi.
[URL="http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Zawadi_(Earth-616)"]http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Zawadi_(Earth-616)[/URL]
But she isn't a Black Panther exactly.
She's a Wakandan warrior woman who said "eff rules" ate the HSH and gained the Panther powers herself.
How does that mesh with the continuity of the Priest/Hudlin runs. It doesn't.
But Zawadi was created in '98 before those series so her creator didn't have continuity concerns.
[QUOTE=Rumble;2260097]Agreed. Should follow the same formula as the other films. First movie: straight solo romp to lay the foundation and mytho. Minimal or no guest appearances, save for the post-credit scenes.
2nd movie and onward: open up the sandbox and allow for the big attraction of the MCU: the cross franchise character interactions.
The 2nd film will likely come sometime after infinity wars, which means the big jar of new MCU heroes will have been popped open[/QUOTE]
I think it's at least posible that Spider-Man and Black Panther will be adopting a slightly different formula with their solo movies, because unlike the other heroes their solo will be their second appearance rather than their first.
They already confirmed that Tony Stark will show up in the Spider-Man movie, which is an obvious continuation to what they set up in Civil War. They have not confirmed Bucky or Steve to be in Black Panther, but the ending credit scene sort of points to that.
I think the difference is that for both Spider-Man and Black Panther, they started their stories prior to the solo movie and their solo is almost somewhat a sequal to something that's already happened. And that's already a change from the previous solo movies in terms of formula. Though again, it theoretically could also just be end credit stuff. They say Stark isn in Spider-Man, but no one is necessarily saying it's a big role. As other have said, it could just be end credit stuff. We'll see. But if Stark did play a larger role in than than in the Spidey movie I wouldn't be shocked if Cap and Bucky didn't play larger roles in the BP movie.
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;2260105]Reg's run implies that she was/would be the first.
That was the Annual that was set in the near future.
You might be thinking of Zawadi.
[URL="http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Zawadi_(Earth-616)"]http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Zawadi_(Earth-616)[/URL]
But she isn't a Black Panther exactly.
She's a Wakandan warrior woman who said "eff rules" ate the HSH and gained the Panther powers herself.
How does that mesh with the continuity of the Priest/Hudlin runs. It doesn't.
But Zawadi was created in '98 before those series so her creator didn't have continuity concerns.[/QUOTE]
Shuri was/is the first female BP? People talk about how progressive Wakanda is, and yet in 10,000 years, they've only ever had one female BP?
[QUOTE=nj06;2260078]Besides Shuri, can any of you name any other female Black Panthers that have existed in the 616 MU? We know that other female BP's have been mentioned, but can any of you name them by their actual names? I can't think of any.[/QUOTE]
how many actual canon BPs can we actually name period???
Bashenga
Azzuri
T'chaka
S'yan
T'challa
Shuri
I might be missing one im sure got mentioned somewhhere
Then you have those future kids than aren't 100% canon I guess... I believe the younger daughter went on to become the "great bp ever" or something after the oldest kid bit the dust I think.