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[QUOTE=Punjabi_Hitman;3500464]Look at Tony soon as he found out his parents were killed by Bucky. Compare and contrast what happened. T’Challa spared Zemo then prevented him from shooting himself. Whereas Tony, who is supposed to be smarter thanT’Challa couldn’t think logically enough that Bucky was mind controlled and went for blood. Then at the end of the fight breaks up his friendship with Steve and has yet to forgive either for the mistakes that weren’t even in their control. And he knows were the truth.
And people are clamouring T’Challa isn’t the hero we should look up to? It's annoying that people consider Tony a hero and T'Challa not one.
Not to mention how T’Challa puts woman ahead of him yet Tony constantly objectifies them.
That is the problem when you make political movies. People only side with what their political beliefs are rather than look at the big picture. Unfortunately BP hadn’t to be a political movie in order to introduce people to the Black Panther mythos.
The thing that really bothers me is in Homecoming really ruined the aspect of Steve on the run playing that workout video of Cap. You would think people would be pissed at Cap for abandoning his country, especially with how patriotic Americans are.[/QUOTE]
ONe of the key differences between the MCU and the comic version of Civil War is that the really bad thing which sets off the Registration didn't actually occur on US soil, so by and large a large percentage of americans probably didn't give a dam about the Accords too much one way or the other. So Steve isn't necessarily a traitor for not going along with a law which was more a UN than a US thing anyways.
And really this is the second time Steve went against his own government. He did it the first time in Winter Soldier, and he ended up being right. And he ended up saving everyone in the process. So people are far more likely to give Steve the benefit of the doubt here.
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[QUOTE=The Cool Thatguy;3500931]In WS, Bucky held his own against Cap because he was armed to the teeth, and Cap didn't want to unleash against his best friend. When it came down to hand to hand at the end, Cap overpowered him. The Bucky Cap fought, and the one T'Challa fought were two different people.[/QUOTE]
The truth is that Bucky will never be as dominant as he was in the first Winter Soldier movie. In that movie he was the main antagonist, meaning he was going to beat everyone except the main protagonist at the very end of the movie. From that point onward he's basically the side kick of a super hero. It drops him down several notches.
Still, the nice thing about Civil War is that it goes out of it's way to make everyone look good at certain points. T'Challa looked great against Bucky, Spider-Man look great against Falcon and Bucky, Cap beats Spider-man and does well against both Black Panther and War Machine, etc etc. Everyone got their moment somewhere in there.
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[QUOTE=G. Boney;3500253][img]https://image.ibb.co/etCfTS/Killmonger_Cosplay.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I really love that we got so many different Cosplay options from the movie. There's just so many ways black folks could go with the costume parties. #WakandaForever
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[QUOTE=Punjabi_Hitman;3500464]Look at Tony soon as he found out his parents were killed by Bucky. Compare and contrast what happened. T’Challa spared Zemo then prevented him from shooting himself. Whereas Tony, who is supposed to be smarter thanT’Challa couldn’t think logically enough that Bucky was mind controlled and went for blood. Then at the end of the fight breaks up his friendship with Steve and has yet to forgive either for the mistakes that weren’t even in their control. And he knows were the truth.
And people are clamouring T’Challa isn’t the hero we should look up to? It's annoying that people consider Tony a hero and T'Challa not one.
Not to mention how T’Challa puts woman ahead of him yet Tony constantly objectifies them.
That is the problem when you make political movies. People only side with what their political beliefs are rather than look at the big picture. Unfortunately BP hadn’t to be a political movie in order to introduce people to the Black Panther mythos.
The thing that really bothers me is in Homecoming really ruined the aspect of Steve on the run playing that workout video of Cap. You would think people would be pissed at Cap for abandoning his country, especially with how patriotic Americans are.[/QUOTE]
I have to say that T'Challa had more than half a movie to come to his senses, with Tony, it was basically the final act. Initially, they both did react to the death(s) similarly. Tony getting over the shock of the reveal has either happened off screen or has the misfortune of his fall out with Steve used as a plot point for Thanos getting one over the Earth's Mightiest. T'Challa has no such burdens at this stage of his story.
Neither are less heroic for being emotional over the death of a loved one. T'Challa didn't let the anger consume him and I don't believe Tony will hold on to his own anger either.
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[QUOTE=rpmaluki;3501366]I have to say that T'Challa had more than half a movie to come to his senses, with Tony, it was basically the final act. Initially, they both did react to the death(s) similarly. Tony getting over the shock of the reveal has either happened off screen or has the misfortune of his fall out with Steve used as a plot point for Thanos getting one over the Earth's Mightiest. T'Challa has no such burdens at this stage of his story.
Neither are less heroic for being emotional over the death of a loved one. T'Challa didn't let the anger consume him and I don't believe Tony will hold on to his own anger either.[/QUOTE]
That's a fair point. Though T'CHalla gets all the credit in the world for deciding not to kill Zemo and instead bring him to justice plus giving BUcky a pass, it's not entirely fair to compare that to Tony's reaction 5 seconds after learning that Bucky killed his parents. I wouldn't be shocked if T'Challa 5 seconds after learning of his fathers death would be emotional enough to go after Bucky even if he knew he was brainwashed. So it's not exactly apples to apples.
I will say that both, when they are in their right mind (which might not be the case for ANYONE immediately after finding their parents killer) wouldn't kill someone in cold blood who is a victim of brainwashing.
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The Black Panther Dance Challenge is a thing now!
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[QUOTE=ed2962;3501455]The Black Panther Dance Challenge is a thing now![/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]There's a dance challenge too? Whoa![/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=XPac;3501421]
I will say that both, when they are in their right mind (which might not be the case for ANYONE immediately after finding their parents killer) wouldn't kill someone in cold blood who is a victim of brainwashing.[/QUOTE]
That's certainly true.
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Nakia needs to check this chick...
Okoye: "If she kisses you one more time I will impale her with this guitar!"
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIzXDyPNtBM[/url]
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[QUOTE=BBeeryan;3500935]What's the #M'BakuChallenge?[/QUOTE]
People reenacting his lines. It's dope
[url]https://twitter.com/i/moments/969282298674900992?lang=en[/url]
[B]There is an M'baku Challenge and People Are Crushing It
[/B][url]http://cheezburger.com/4937989/there-is-an-mbaku-challenge-and-people-are-crushing-it[/url]
[B]People are hilariously reenacting a pivotal scene from 'Black Panther' and they're totally nailing it
[/B][url]http://www.thisisinsider.com/black-panther-fans-reenact-challenge-day-scene-meme-2018-3[/url]
[B]Black Panther Fans Make M’Baku Challenge Meme Go Viral
[/B][url]https://screenrant.com/black-panther-mbaku-challenge/[/url]
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Adjusted for inflation, the following are the only superhero films that Black Panther has yet to take down at the domestic box office.
29 Marvel's The Avengers $705,769,500
31 The Dark Knight $683,575,000
38 Spider-Man $637,870,000
53 Batman $577,923,400
68 The Dark Knight Rises $528,601,000
70 Superman $526,547,600
[B]87 Black Panther $501,105,037[/B]
([URL="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm"]source[/URL])
Assuming 50% holds from last week, it should pass Superman and The Dark Knight Rises by the end of this weekend, and Batman sometime next week. I think it'll hit $600m, but it's going to be a slow walk after that. I see it falling between the unadjusted numbers for Avengers ($623,357,910) and the adjusted numbers for Spider-Man ($637,870,000)
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[QUOTE=rpmaluki;3501366]I have to say that T'Challa had more than half a movie to come to his senses, with Tony, it was basically the final act. Initially, they both did react to the death(s) similarly. Tony getting over the shock of the reveal has either happened off screen or has the misfortune of his fall out with Steve used as a plot point for Thanos getting one over the Earth's Mightiest. T'Challa has no such burdens at this stage of his story.
Neither are less heroic for being emotional over the death of a loved one. T'Challa didn't let the anger consume him and I don't believe Tony will hold on to his own anger either.[/QUOTE]
Also what REALLY set Tony off more than anything was finding out that Steve KNEW about Bucky killing his parents, but kept it from him. That's what enraged him more than anything, and in his letter later Cap concedes that doing so was a mistake on his part.
T'Challa didn't really have that particular problem.
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[QUOTE=Punisher007;3501847]Also what REALLY set Tony off more than anything was finding out that Steve KNEW about Bucky killing his parents, but kept it from him. That's what enraged him more than anything, and in his letter later Cap concedes that doing so was a mistake on his part.
T'Challa didn't really have that particular problem.[/QUOTE]
Honestly I'm still not 100% sure how Steve knew Bucky killed Tonys parents. Steve perhaps could have guessed that Bucky might have been involved, but I don't think he honestly could have known one way or the other.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3501461][COLOR="#000080"]There's a dance challenge too? Whoa![/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Someone already posted the "Walking Out the BP Movie Like" video. Since then folks have been trying to their own version. Most are just people doing that same dance, but many are trying to be a little more original.
Here's some kids doing somethings as Doras. They even have costumes
[video=youtube;l7TWrK3XX4w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7TWrK3XX4w[/video]
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[QUOTE=XPac;3501857]Honestly I'm still not 100% sure how Steve knew Bucky killed Tonys parents. Steve perhaps could have guessed that Bucky might have been involved, but I don't think he honestly could have known one way or the other.[/QUOTE]
Steve highly suspected it since TWS. I can't imagine finding out your best friend may have murdered the parents of your colleague-sort of friend was easy to comprehend. Without any concrete proof, I think it was easier to keep it to himself, not as a slight against Tony. And Bucky was brainwashed at the time. But in the heat of the moment, no way Tony shrugs any of this off.