Necropolis is a general, grander term for graveyard. Are ther no cultures in eastern Africa with graveyards? And I'm aware Hickman is the one who wrote them that way. It was a huge failing my opinion.
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Necropolis is a general, grander term for graveyard. Are ther no cultures in eastern Africa with graveyards? And I'm aware Hickman is the one who wrote them that way. It was a huge failing my opinion.
[QUOTE=Holt;1578363]I blame the whack-ass editors who referred to the location as "The African Coast" instead of South Africa or the specific city. Imagine being that vague with any other continent. Imagine Iron Man opening up with a caption like "Somewhere in North America."[/QUOTE]
I remember that footnote. I mean...damn that's a HUGE coastline. Couldn't they be more specific, like "Southern African coast"? It wouldn't determine the location of Wakanda anyway.
[QUOTE=Holt;1578363]I blame the whack-ass editors who referred to the location as "The African Coast" instead of South Africa or the specific city. Imagine being that vague with any other continent. Imagine Iron Man opening up with a caption like "Somewhere in North America."[/QUOTE]
I'm not even going to blame the editors. Remember BEFORE the movie came out a lot of fans just saw black people in the trailer and immediately said "That must be Wakanda". There were people in the press who did set visits and just assumed the scene was supposed to take place in Wakanda Just because they had modern cars and skyscrapers. Hell we've seen the exact same thing with Captain America: Civil War. A bunch of set photos leaked that had a bunch of black people in it and people just assumed it was Wakanda.
I've also seen that stupid "I doesn't make sense for Wakanda to be technologically advanced" nonsense pop up occasionally. Because for some reason the same people that can buy SHIELD having flying aircraft carriers, Iron Man armor, and alien invasions think a technologically advanced African nation is just too unrealistic.
People are inadvertently revealing a lot of stupid misconceptions they have about the African Continent and the people who live there when it comes to discussions about Black Panther on film.
[QUOTE=MouserGrey;1578436]Necropolis is a general, grander term for graveyard. Are ther no cultures in eastern Africa with graveyards? And I'm aware Hickman is the one who wrote them that way. It was a huge failing my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Necropolis is not an African word.
Wakanda is a fictional African nation based in Africa so the word Necropolis has no relevance to the region.
[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1578534]I'm not even going to blame the editors. Remember BEFORE the movie came out a lot of fans just saw black people in the trailer and immediately said "That must be Wakanda". There were people in the press who did set visits and just assumed the scene was supposed to take place in Wakanda Just because they had modern cars and skyscrapers. Hell we've seen the exact same thing with Captain America: Civil War. A bunch of set photos leaked that had a bunch of black people in it and people just assumed it was Wakanda.
I've also seen that stupid "I doesn't make sense for Wakanda to be technologically advanced" nonsense pop up occasionally. Because for some reason the same people that can buy SHIELD having flying aircraft carriers, Iron Man armor, and alien invasions think a technologically advanced African nation is just too unrealistic.
People are inadvertently revealing a lot of stupid misconceptions they have about the African Continent and the people who live there when it comes to discussions about Black Panther on film.[/QUOTE]
The slum thing was particularly annoying because I kept seeing people trying to argue they were making Wakanda more realistic or relevant to the modern political climate.
Which doesn't even make sense. Why would anyone from the outside world care about Wakanda if it were just a bunch of slums and people in huts?
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1578557]Necropolis is not an African word.
Wakanda is a fictional African nation based in Africa so the word Necropolis has no relevance to the region.[/QUOTE]
Necropolis is neither a chinese, iranian, or Thai word, but it is used to describe such places in those countries and others. Road or building are not African words, neither are a lot that have been used to describe different things in Wakanda. In fact, Wakanda is not an African word, nor is T'Challa. They are made up for fiction. But the word Necropolis is an acceptable definition of a place where Wakandans might honor their dead. Archaeologists and anthropologists use it.
Just noticed this interesting factoid. Check out the Panther statues from the bride arc:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/bCpjTPo.jpg[/IMG]
And now, from recent Fantastic Four issues:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2qAIyOE.jpg[/IMG]
First time I've personally noticed some sort of consistency concerning Wakanda's portrayal
[QUOTE=Holt;1578582]The slum thing was particularly annoying because I kept seeing people trying to argue they were making Wakanda more realistic or relevant to the modern political climate.
Which doesn't even make sense. Why would anyone from the outside world care about Wakanda if it were just a bunch of slums and people in huts?[/QUOTE]
People have seriously deep issues that they need to come to terms with when it comes to Wakanda. I don't see ANY other nation or group in the Marvel universe that people INSIST be more "realistic" by being stripped of everything that makes it special.
[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1578796]People have seriously deep issues that they need to come to terms with when it comes to Wakanda. I don't see ANY other nation or group in the Marvel universe that people INSIST be more "realistic" by being stripped of everything that makes it special.[/QUOTE]
I've seen the "how can Wakanda be so advanced" debates creeping up as civil war approaches. Those questions will go in overdrive when the trailer for the BP solo comes out.
The BP film is gonna expose a lot of people.
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1578849]I've seen the "how can Wakanda be so advanced" debates creeping up as civil war approaches. Those questions will go in overdrive when the trailer for the BP solo comes out.
The BP film is gonna expose a lot of people.[/QUOTE]
As stupid, mostly. You get the same thing with the Amazons in Wonder Woman. They always lose their science because it's "unrealistic" for it to have developed separately from the world. Unrealistic how?
Still, I imagine it'll be well explained why the nation has done so much better than it's neighbors. So people should just view it like Atlantis or Asgard, as it is. It'll be interesting to see what the American media thinks of it.
A 1970s era Marvel card game, featuring the Panther. curious: [url]http://www.taint-the-meat.com/comics/marvel-superheroes-top-trumps#more-4768[/url]
In the "easter egg" movie world, everyone wants everything ot mean something. So, until Wakanda officially appears on screen, every possibly place with a lot of dark skinned peeps is going to be "wakanda" because having an internet article that says, "FIRST LOOK AT WAKANDA IN CIVIL WAR!" is gonna get more hits than "CIVIL WAR SET PIECE IN ATLANTA!"
That and people are stupid
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1578757]Just noticed this interesting factoid. Check out the Panther statues from the bride arc:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/bCpjTPo.jpg[/IMG]
And now, from recent Fantastic Four issues:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2qAIyOE.jpg[/IMG]
First time I've personally noticed some sort of consistency concerning Wakanda's portrayal[/QUOTE]
damn, comic book art has come a long way in a short time lol
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1578311][B]Well hopefully Coates gives us a Priest/Hudlin Panther and not the PIS Panther Hickman has shown us. I get that sometimes you might need to make an alteration or two ofba characters normal behavior in order to make a story engaging and have it roll smoothly (though even that should be kept to a minimum, especially if the things your changing are huge, defining attributes that should never be changed) but Hickman went way over the top.
T'Challa was defined as one of the most honest men you would ever meet in Priest's run. He isn't arrogant and wouldn't try to solve the incursion issue alone with the Illuminati, and especially wouldn't allow Namor into necropolis without telling Shuri. What he would do is let her know and together, they would secretly plot to lure Namor ninto a false sense of security and then take him and Atlantis down in one swoop. Whether they accomplished both would depend of course but the attributes displayed in ED, TrO and Sw, are not only the worst attributes given to T'Challa, but they aren't even attributes he has been established to have. [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm not gonna lie, it didn't make a lot of sense for Namor to be in Wakanda. But at the same time , the issues featuring the Tension and constant struggle between T'challa and Namor were some of the best on that run! I understand why Hickman put Namor on the team, because it made for an awesome read! As for T'challa not being Arrogant ? I don't know what books you've been reading the past few years lol T'challa can be pretty arrogant and secretive. I.e. Refusing to ride in a "gas guzzler" after the U.S. tried to get Storm to Register, Slapping Tony Stark in the face and telling him to get his s*it together, hiring Deadpool to assassinate Doom during Doomwar behind Shuri's back, Beating up Luke Cage because he tried to help him in Hell's Kitchen, getting pissy with Storm after she interfered in his fight with Doom, need I go on? Because I can lol
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1579334]damn, comic book art has come a long way in a short time lol[/QUOTE]
Noticed it completely by chance, both pics happened to be side by side in an image search. Would be really cool if Stelfreeze continues the trend.
[QUOTE=mbeezy561;1579373]I'm not gonna lie, it didn't make a lot of sense for Namor to be in Wakanda. But at the same time , the issues featuring the Tension and constant struggle between T'challa and Namor were some of the best on that run! I understand why Hickman put Namor on the team, because it made for an awesome read! As for T'challa not being Arrogant ? I don't know what books you've been reading the past few years lol T'challa can be pretty arrogant and secretive. I.e. Refusing to ride in a "gas guzzler" after the U.S. tried to get Storm to Register, Slapping Tony Stark in the face and telling him to get his s*it together, hiring Deadpool to assassinate Doom during Doomwar behind Shuri's back, Beating up Luke Cage because he tried to help him in Hell's Kitchen, getting pissy with Storm after she interfered in his fight with Doom, need I go on? Because I can lol[/QUOTE]
Honestly I think the biggest reason to have Namor around was that he'd be the most likely to press the button if it came down to that. Even without hindsight it was pretty easy to predict most of them backing out of murdering billions of innocent people. Essentially they needed him for the plan to work.
And he was also needed to Cap's plan since he had a gem . Even if they didn't initially think of it without Steve I'm sure they would have eventually thought of the gems and that would require Namor.
[QUOTE=mbeezy561;1579373]I'm not gonna lie, it didn't make a lot of sense for Namor to be in Wakanda. But at the same time , the issues featuring the Tension and constant struggle between T'challa and Namor were some of the best on that run! I understand why Hickman put Namor on the team, because it made for an awesome read! As for T'challa not being Arrogant ? I don't know what books you've been reading the past few years lol T'challa can be pretty arrogant and secretive. I.e. Refusing to ride in a "gas guzzler" after the U.S. tried to get Storm to Register, Slapping Tony Stark in the face and telling him to get his s*it together, hiring Deadpool to assassinate Doom during Doomwar behind Shuri's back, Beating up Luke Cage because he tried to help him in Hell's Kitchen, getting pissy with Storm after she interfered in his fight with Doom, need I go on? Because I can lol[/QUOTE]
[B]Refusing to ride in the car wasn't arrogant, because he was pissed they essentially tried to entrap storm and make T'challa & Storm look bad by refusing to cooperate with the Us. Slapping Stark isn't arrogant either, Stark was feeling sorry for himself and him talking about getting himself killed wouldn't help anyone. DW was laced with stupidity they had T'Challa at the end thank Doom for beating his ass and "Teaching" him and Wakanda a lesson about being too weak or some bs. I never said T'challa isn't secretive, but he wouldn't just straight up lie like he did in Hickmans run with so much at stake. And the thing with Storm was more pride then arrogance. [/B]
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1579569][B]Refusing to ride in the car wasn't arrogant, because he was pissed they essentially tried to entrap storm and make T'challa & Storm look bad by refusing to cooperate with the Us. Slapping Stark isn't arrogant either, Stark was feeling sorry for himself and him talking about getting himself killed wouldn't help anyone. DW was laced with stupidity they had T'Challa at the end thank Doom for beating his ass and "Teaching" him and Wakanda a lesson about being too weak or some bs. I never said T'challa isn't secretive, but he wouldn't just straight up lie like he did in Hickmans run with so much at stake. And the thing with Storm was more pride then arrogance. [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't think it's necessarily inaccurate to describe T'Challa as arrogant. Really I think most of the super smart guys including Reed and Stark are. When you're that smart it's almost justified because 9 times out of 10 they can back it up.
As far as T'Challa lying ... he did join the Avengers to spy on the even though that's a retcon. So I wouldn't say he's above keeping secrets and deceiving even people he's close to if he feels it's necessary.
I can defintely see T'challa being arrogant at times or coming off that way. But, then again, he is a genius billionaire king from a super advanced nation... he probaly should be a bit arrogant.
[QUOTE=XPac;1579637]I don't think it's necessarily inaccurate to describe T'Challa as arrogant. Really I think most of the super smart guys including Reed and Stark are. When you're that smart it's almost justified because 9 times out of 10 they can back it up.
As far as T'Challa lying ... he did join the Avengers to spy on the even though that's a retcon. So I wouldn't say he's above keeping secrets and deceiving even people he's close to if he feels it's necessary.[/QUOTE]
[B]That was to protect Wakanda, again i am not saying He isn't secretive (he was the most secretive in Priests run) but he is an honest man, this was established in Priest run that he isn't going to lie for the sake of lying. He spied on the avengers because they were a potential threat to Wakanda in his eyes. The difference between that and Everything Dies is that he was putting Wakanda in danger by lying to Shuri and having Namor there as well. [/B]
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1579687]I can defintely see T'challa being arrogant at times or coming off that way. But, then again, he is a genius billionaire king from a super advanced nation... he probaly should be a bit arrogant.[/QUOTE]
[B]In Hudlins run he definitely came off as arrogant at times, or atleast boderline, I prefer Priest version of so much arrogant but a need to be in control, T'challa didn't come off, quite the opposite, he made people underestimate him and only shown what he wanted them to see, and they got burned hard when they would write him off as some jungle clown [/B]
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1579720][B]That was to protect Wakanda, again i am not saying He isn't secretive (he was the most secretive in Priests run) but he is an honest man, this was established in Priest run that he isn't going to lie for the sake of lying. He spied on the avengers because they were a potential threat to Wakanda in his eyes. The difference between that and Everything Dies is that he was putting Wakanda in danger by lying to Shuri and having Namor there as well. [/B]
[B]In Hudlins run he definitely came off as arrogant at times, or atleast boderline, I prefer Priest version of so much arrogant but a need to be in control, T'challa didn't come off, quite the opposite, he made people underestimate him and only shown what he wanted them to see, and they got burned hard when they would write him off as some jungle clown [/B][/QUOTE]
He was placing Wakanda at greater risk but he was also doing what he believed was necessary for the greater good.
And I think that's one of the differences between T'challa and Shuri. Shuri will put Wakanda first while T'Challa at times will prioritize the bigger picture. At times those 2 things aren't one and the same unfortunately.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1579687]I can defintely see T'challa being arrogant at times or coming off that way. But, then again, he is a genius billionaire king from a super advanced nation... he probaly should be a bit arrogant.[/QUOTE]
Tony Stark and Namor are arrogant...
I don't think that really applies to T'Challa, he seems to be very aware of his limitations and capabilities. T'Challa is just completely unapologetic about his abilities and accomplishments. He doesn't really brag, but he also no desire to put up a facade of false humility.
[QUOTE=XPac;1579637]I don't think it's necessarily inaccurate to describe T'Challa as arrogant. Really I think most of the super smart guys including Reed and Stark are. When you're that smart it's almost justified because 9 times out of 10 they can back it up.
As far as T'Challa lying ... he did join the Avengers to spy on the even though that's a retcon. So I wouldn't say he's above keeping secrets and deceiving even people he's close to if he feels it's necessary.[/QUOTE]
T'Challa spied on the avengers because he was doing his job. The interests of Wakanda are a priority and as King, at the time, it's his job to know whether or not they were a threat.
T'Challa lying to Shuri, however, actually put Wakanda at risk.
[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1579799]Tony Stark and Namor are arrogant...
I don't think that really applies to T'Challa, he seems to be very aware of his limitations and capabilities. T'Challa is just completely unapologetic about his abilities and accomplishments. He doesn't really brag, but he also no desire to put up a facade of false humility.[/QUOTE]
I thought Hudlin's version was prone to bragging now and then. But under other writers I'll agree he really didn't.
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1579808]T'Challa spied on the avengers because he was doing his job. The interests of Wakanda are a priority and as King, at the time, it's his job to know whether or not they were a threat.
T'Challa lying to Shuri, however, actually put Wakanda at risk.[/QUOTE]
Not really. Shuri wasn't going to help. The risk would be letting the world know the end was coming and causing mass panic. T'challa handled it the way a super genius would handle it.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1579720][B]That was to protect Wakanda, again i am not saying He isn't secretive (he was the most secretive in Priests run) but he is an honest man, this was established in Priest run that he isn't going to lie for the sake of lying. He spied on the avengers because they were a potential threat to Wakanda in his eyes. The difference between that and Everything Dies is that he was putting Wakanda in danger by lying to Shuri and having Namor there as well. [/B]
[B]In Hudlins run he definitely came off as arrogant at times, or atleast boderline, I prefer Priest version of so much arrogant but a need to be in control, T'challa didn't come off, quite the opposite, he made people underestimate him and only shown what he wanted them to see, and they got burned hard when they would write him off as some jungle clown [/B][/QUOTE]
In an effort to save the world which Wakanda is a part of, he choose not to inform Shuri.
Queen Shuri doesnt follow TChalla. She is her woman and does what she feels best for her people.
TChalla counsel her not to drop the hammer on Atlantis. She went on ahead for very valid reasons.
Its easy to reason that instead of waiting to kill Namor, they could just take what they want from his dead corpse instead of trusting him. Trusting Namor and Maximus was the cause of a lot of trouble.
[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;1579894]In an effort to save the world which Wakanda is a part of, he choose not to inform Shuri.
Queen Shuri doesnt follow TChalla. She is her woman and does what she feels best for her people.
TChalla counsel her not to drop the hammer on Atlantis. She went on ahead for very valid reasons.
Its easy to reason that instead of waiting to kill Namor, they could just take what they want from his dead corpse instead of trusting him. Trusting Namor and Maximus was the cause of a lot of trouble.[/QUOTE]
But killing Namor would have brought that war with Atlantis to a head immediately.
I will say this, trusting Maximus was the most underrated flaw of the Illuminati's plans.
[QUOTE=Ekie;1579868]Not really. Shuri wasn't going to help. The risk would be letting the world know the end was coming and causing mass panic. T'challa handled it the way a super genius would handle it.[/QUOTE]
He handle it the way that most heroes handle things. Heroes keep secrets. The Avengers didnt tell the eotld that HOM Wanda was a threat. They kept it in house. Comoc book hetoes constantly tell lies for what they believe is the greater good. Its a common narrative
[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;1579894]In an effort to save the world which Wakanda is a part of, he choose not to inform Shuri.
Queen Shuri doesnt follow TChalla. She is her woman and does what she feels best for her people.
TChalla counsel her not to drop the hammer on Atlantis. She went on ahead for very valid reasons.
Its easy to reason that instead of waiting to kill Namor, they could just take what they want from his dead corpse instead of trusting him. Trusting Namor and Maximus was the cause of a lot of trouble.[/QUOTE]
[B] Had he told her, they could of come up with a better plan of attack that would of allowed for them to find other solutions. Shuri does what is best for Wakanda and T'Challa does what he thinks is best for the world, and they would work together because if earth dies Wakanda dies with it.[/B]
[QUOTE=Double 0;1579900]But killing Namor would have brought that war with Atlantis to a head immediately.
I will say this, trusting Maximus was the most underrated flaw of the Illuminati's plans.[/QUOTE]
Also not bringing in Hank sooner. Totally missed opportunity.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1579987][B] Had he told her, they could of come up with a better plan of attack that would of allowed for them to find other solutions. Shuri does what is best for Wakanda and T'Challa does what he thinks is best for the world, and they would work together because if earth dies Wakanda dies with it.[/B][/QUOTE]
That's assuming he could come up with a better plan of attack working with Shuri than with the group he was already with. And frankly I'm not certain that's the case. She might not agree with what T'Challa is doing, and frankly he might not want to put her in the position where she needs to make those sort of choices. Plus... to be blunt I'm not entirely certain she brings anything to the table to add to what he already had with the Illuminati.
You can say he did the wrong thing... but he had valid enough reasons to make the choices that he did.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1579987][B] Had he told her, they could of come up with a better plan of attack that would of allowed for them to find other solutions. Shuri does what is best for Wakanda and T'Challa does what he thinks is best for the world, and they would work together because if earth dies Wakanda dies with it.[/B][/QUOTE]
Exactly. It's in Shuri's best interest to help. If their efforts failed, the world, which Wakanda is part of, would be gone for good.
Now, whether or not their efforts would've have worked is a different matter, but that's not the point. The illuminati was operating in the necropolis, which could be considered Wakandan soil. She had the right to know.
[QUOTE=XPac;1579842]I thought Hudlin's version was prone to bragging now and then. But under other writers I'll agree he really didn't.[/QUOTE]
Please provide evidence of this so-called bragging under Hudlin's pen.
[QUOTE=Ekie;1579868]Not really. Shuri wasn't going to help. [/QUOTE]
What are you basing this assumption on?
[QUOTE=Ekie;1579868]The risk would be letting the world know the end was coming and causing mass panic. T'challa handled it the way a super genius would handle it.[/QUOTE]
Is there anything in canon to suggest that Shuri would have broken T'Challa's confidence?
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1580036]Exactly. It's in Shuri's best interest to help. If their efforts failed, the world, which Wakanda is part of, would be gone for good.
Now, whether or not their efforts would've have worked is a different matter, but that's not the point. The illuminati was operating in the necropolis, which could be considered Wakandan soil. She had the right to know.[/QUOTE]
Truthfully everyone had the right to now. Which isn't to say it would have been in anyone's best interest to tell everyone, but they had that right... Illuminati by keeping it a secret and making the decisions for everyone else was them effectively playing god.
They don't do it entirely out of arrogance... in this case there are valid reason for keeping their actions a secret. Nonetheless you can certainly agree they had no right to do it. Just like they had no right to mind wipe Steve and no right to blow up someone else's planet. Illuminati aren't necessarily big on respecting the rights of others.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1579987][B] Had he told her, they could of come up with a better plan of attack that would of allowed for them to find other solutions. Shuri does what is best for Wakanda and T'Challa does what he thinks is best for the world, and they would work together because if earth dies Wakanda dies with it.[/B][/QUOTE]
So Namor would have had two people on the team who would vow to kill him. It may have saved Atlantis. But the drums for war were very loud. The Wakandans wanted retribution.
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1580036]Exactly. It's in Shuri's best interest to help. If their efforts failed, the world, which Wakanda is part of, would be gone for good.
Now, whether or not their efforts would've have worked is a different matter, but that's not the point. The illuminati was operating in the necropolis, which could be considered Wakandan soil. [B]She had the right to know.[/B][/QUOTE]
Especially as she was the RULING MONARCH at the time.
If the roles were reversed and Shuri was the one who'd secretly invited the Illuminati onto Wakandan soil and kept this from T'Challa, I'm sure most defending T'Challa's actions would be singing a different tune.
[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;1580093]So Namor would have had two people on the team who would vow to kill him. It may have saved Atlantis. But the drums for war were very loud. The Wakandans wanted retribution.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I suspect working with Namor MIGHT be a deal breaker for Shuri. Given the stakes it's possible she'd let bygones be bygones for the time being... but it's also possible she wouldn't put it off until later. She doesn't necessarily have the self control T'Challa demonstrated for the most part (though he obviously lost it with Namor too after a certain point...I suppose anyone would by that point).
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1580036]Exactly. It's in Shuri's best interest to help. If their efforts failed, the world, which Wakanda is part of, would be gone for good.
Now, whether or not their efforts would've have worked is a different matter, but that's not the point. The illuminati was operating in the necropolis, which could be considered Wakandan soil. She had the right to know.[/QUOTE]
But Necropolis is sovereign land.Shuri justifiably exiled TChalla from Wakanda whennthe Doras confided in her. It didnt change one thing about how Necropolis ran.
[QUOTE=XPac;1580109]Yeah, I suspect working with Namor MIGHT be a deal breaker for Shuri. Given the stakes it's possible she'd let bygones be bygones for the time being... but it's also possible she wouldn't put it off until later. She doesn't necessarily have the self control T'Challa demonstrated for the most part (though he obviously lost it with Namor too after a certain point...I suppose anyone would by that point).[/QUOTE]
Might? It would be a deal breaker. Lets not even front, she would have broken down negotiations seeing Namor involved. Especially with the Wakanda comes first mantra.
We've brought up that Namor's importance was his monarchy and the fact that he'd be willing to pull the trigger. Pretty sure Shuri would believe the same of herself and still go for knocking Namor out of the picture.
We've brought up how Shuri is much more like the traditional Wakandan rulers. And they said Namor goes. Shuri would want to same.