Not sure if it's been posted before, but great fan art.
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Not sure if it's been posted before, but great fan art.
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Criticizing Marvel Studios use of "no name" actord seems bizarre as hell.
There hasnt been a single misfire in any leads so far. RDJ, Evans, Hemsworth, Pratt, Rudd were 100% perfect.
Loki, Odin, Falcon, groot/rocket voice, Peggy, Pym, Pepper, Stane, Ultrons voice, WS, Redford, Fury, ect were excellent casting decisions.
Marvel studio can be criticized for some things but casting definitely isnt one of them. I expecr Boseman to continue this
And praising DC is just as bizarre. They decided to just throw money at the situation which is fine but also means they have to clearva higher bench mark to clear to make money.
And please... only Smith is a proven draw. No one iscseeing SS for Robbie or Leto.
The WW thing is the most bizarre. DC gets some weird internet prize bc they announced WW and Cyborg movies before Marvel announced BP and Carol but WB drops wads of cash on SS and Batman actors and then casts a pure no name for WW. Seems weird
Eh as I said when Chris Pine is your biggest name that is a problem.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1647584]Funny thing is the fact that for months I have been saying Marvel needs a hire a director and a good screenwriter for the film but I was told that its too early for that that they have 2-3 years till release and now people are accepting that fact now.
Thats why I said the sooner the better. You have time to plan shooting locations, corrections on anything in the script and hiring actors because now that the release date has been pushed to February 2018, shooting has to start between November 2016-February 2017. Just saying[/QUOTE]
There's a trade of though. Yes ideally you want as much time as possible. But you also don't want to rush it... you want to find the best director you can and you want the best script you can, rather than settling for whatever you can get in order to meet a deadline. If it came down to it, I'd rather they delayed the movie and get the best possible movie they could rather than get the movie out as quickly as possible with whatever they could find.
I'm sure marvel studios itself has it's own time table and schedule. It's not their first movie. I think more than anything the point is we shouldn't be freaking out over any of this just yet. I'm going to assuem they know what they're doing at least until there's reason to think they don't.
I am not in love with Hudlin's run but I feel he gets shafted sometimes by BP fans because its just different from Priests run.
I feel Priests peaks are miles above Hudlins but Priest had some moments where his stuff was shit imo lol. Including how it ended. How the hell does a writer follow up on that?
Hudlins is much more steady (from my memory anyway) in quality but didnt peak like Priest.
But, i need to re read stuff again. I find myself loving RadioShack Panther more and more each time i read it lol. Need to ho back through hudlins run as well.
[QUOTE=XPac;1647701]There's a trade of though. Yes ideally you want as much time as possible. But you also don't want to rush it... you want to find the best director you can and you want the best script you can, rather than settling for whatever you can get in order to meet a deadline. If it came down to it, I'd rather they delayed the movie and get the best possible movie they could rather than get the movie out as quickly as possible with whatever they could find.
I'm sure marvel studios itself has it's own time table and schedule. It's not their first movie. I think more than anything the point is we shouldn't be freaking out over any of this just yet. I'm going to assuem they know what they're doing at least until there's reason to think they don't.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, i think marvel knowd how to get a quality movie out lol. They areca machine.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1647703]I am not in love with Hudlin's run but I feel he gets shafted sometimes by BP fans because its just different from Priests run.
I feel Priests peaks are miles above Hudlins but Priest had some moments where his stuff was shit imo lol. Including how it ended. How the hell does a writer follow up on that?
Hudlins is much more steady (from my memory anyway) in quality but didnt peak like Priest.
But, i need to re read stuff again. I find myself loving RadioShack Panther more and more each time i read it lol. Need to ho back through hudlins run as well.[/QUOTE]
Been re-reading the entire Hudlin run. It wasn't as bad as some people make him to be.
His style wasn't like Priest, but Hudlin's run still had very good to great moments as well.
EDIT: there are some things I felt Hudlin did better than Priest as well. For example, I prefer Hudlin's version of the Dora Milaje compared to Priest's.
[QUOTE=JaggedFel;1647654]Well its harder to Judge Marvel on Leads because until Doctor Strange...Marvel has never put together a true all star cast in my book which I guess since Black Panthers Follows that as the next solo makes me worried lol when I think about it.
I suppose Wonder Woman can rely more on the name but while that might work in America I am dubious on that working at the Global Box Office but I guess mining Greco Roman mythology has proved a decent tactic in the past.
But DC aint afraid to spring the big bucks for high level talent and those 3 cover a good cross section for a wide audience also good.
As for Black Panther....yeah a strong unconquered high tech African City State....color me cynical marvel can deliver on that.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure you could say Henry Cavill was exactly the biggest star on the planet when he headlined Man of Steel and that movie did fine. Not that Man of Steel didn't have it's share of star power in the supporting cast but really, I think audiences went to see a Superman movie more than anything else.
I suppose the studios can throw more money and star power at Wonder WOman or Black Panther but there is an inherent risk in bloating the production cost... it means you have to make that much more at the box office. If you don't double what you spent it's generally considered a flop. Green Lantern is an example of that. There's a balance you need to meet... and so far marvel has managed to do that . Whatever formula they're using appears to be working.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1647703]I am not in love with Hudlin's run but I feel he gets shafted sometimes by BP fans because its just different from Priests run.
I feel Priests peaks are miles above Hudlins but Priest had some moments where his stuff was shit imo lol. Including how it ended. How the hell does a writer follow up on that?
Hudlins is much more steady (from my memory anyway) in quality but didnt peak like Priest.
But, i need to re read stuff again. I find myself loving RadioShack Panther more and more each time i read it lol. Need to ho back through hudlins run as well.[/QUOTE]
Though Hudlin at times was sort of hit and miss for me, I will say almost anyone would have trouble following Priest.
It's like following up Frank Millers Daredevil... going after the guy that literally redefined the character for the modern era is tough shoes to fill. I will say though that I believed Hudlin got better with his craft, and his final arc legitimately is one of my fave BP stories.
And Radio Shack Panther was great. Sort of sad the book wasn't more appreciated at the time. IMO it was the best BP book since Priest.
[QUOTE=XPac;1647711]I'm not sure you could say Henry Cavill was exactly the biggest star on the planet when he headlined Man of Steel and that movie did fine. Not that Man of Steel didn't have it's share of star power in the supporting cast but really, I think audiences went to see a Superman movie more than anything else.
I suppose the studios can throw more money and star power at Wonder WOman or Black Panther but there is an inherent risk in bloating the production cost... it means you have to make that much more at the box office. If you don't double what you spent it's generally considered a flop. Green Lantern is an example of that. There's a balance you need to meet... and so far marvel has managed to do that . Whatever formula they're using appears to be working.[/QUOTE]
I think Canville isca good SM
But you could have put any actor there and combined with Snyder and made 600mil. Superman brand is that strong and people know with Snyder what you sre getting action wise
[QUOTE=MrHashasheen;1647529]Which I still see was both wasteful and silly. It's comics. You can retool almost anyone.[/QUOTE]
Sadly I think some just can't get past the ape suit. Which is sort of sad because I think Priest made him a pretty darn good character. Ah well.
[QUOTE=Darthkostis;1647493]Indeed. One thing I'm worried about is that they're going to go with "quantum physics" as the source of magic...Which makes no sense for a Doctor Strange movie. Magic is just...magic, it doesn't need any scientific explaination, otherwise it loses its charm. There's a big push to erase anything supernatural related in modern nerd culture and just replace it with "SCIENCE!" in order to feed into the reader's/watcher's ego of "hells yeah, I'm a scientist brah". Look, I love science, I do. I frequent physics boards, I look into spacetime stuff (wormholes, black holes, time dialation, paradoxes, everything), I've read the entirety of the Relativity chapter in my school book even though it's not in the syllabus and I'm studying for medicine. But I just can't stand this trend of seemingly erasing anything supernatural related in movies/comics in favor of made-up science terms.
That's the one reason why I'm sceptical about both the BP and DS movies. I'm afraid that they're going to turn Bast into just an old myth that the current Wakandans have gotten over, since they're so technologically advanced that they do not believe in such sily things as "fairy tales", and that, IMO, is a mistake. Not every smart person lacks spiritual believes, that's just something ignorant people who can't put up with other people's views made up. I mean, believe whatever you want, whether that is something or nothing but please, leave the characters out of it. Doctor Strange is a magician, end of story. He talks to Gods everyday, and in his world they exist. Don't try and change them and make them "oh, they're just aliens from an unihabited dimension hidden behind massive amounts of required energy". That changes absolutely nothing instead of just spouting of Doctor Who Level Mumbo-Jumbo (I love Doctor Who, but come on, it's corny and that's why we like it) in order to avoid saying "magic", "demon", "god", etc, etc...[/QUOTE]
Bast is actually an interestig question, because the Asgardians at least aren't gods in the MCU. They're just powerful aliens. If Bast even shows up I wonder if they will go that route with them.
[QUOTE=XPac;1647729]Bast is actually an interestig question, because the Asgardians at least aren't gods in the MCU. They're just powerful aliens. If Bast even shows up I wonder if they will go that route with them.[/QUOTE]
I doubt that they'll ever be a need. Bast is simply the God T'challa worships, there's no real need for him to appear on screen (and IMO, panel, but that's another debate).
Can't get around that with Thor et all.
[QUOTE=The Cool Thatguy;1647736]I doubt that they'll ever be a need. Bast is simply the God T'challa worships, there's no real need for him to appear on screen (and IMO, panel, but that's another debate).
Can't get around that with Thor et all.[/QUOTE]
True. I can imagine at most we might get some sort of vision or whatever from Bast as a big white panther or something.
Still, with all the Infinity Stone stuff floating around I could imagine an end credit teaser with Bast having a stone or something like that.
"Star power" doesn't really factor into superhero productions as much as people might think. The lead actor in Guardians of the Galaxy, one of their biggest surprise hits, was a guy people only knew of as "April's fat boyfriend from Parks and Recreation". Robert Downey Jr.'s career was in the gutters when Iron Man came out and before that he was basically a punchline and cautionary tale about why you shouldn't take drugs. Chris Evans wasn't a huge star either and Chris Hemsworth was known for a 2 minute appearance in Star Trek where he got blown up.
The only actual Marvel heroes I can argue are played by big name A-listers are Ant-Man, Black Widow, and Hawkeye, and even then two of those three are just ensemble characters without their own movies. And as someone just said, Man of Steel made 600 million dollars off the Superman brand name despite Henry Cavill not being a bankable star by any stretch before that movie came out.
There's a lot of factors that are gonna be going into whether or not Black Panther is a hit, but I don't think Chadwick not being a huge star is as big a strike against it as one would think.
[QUOTE=Holt;1647750]"Star power" doesn't really factor into superhero productions as much as people might think. The lead actor in Guardians of the Galaxy, one of their biggest surprise hits, was a guy people only knew of as "April's fat boyfriend from Parks and Recreation". Robert Downey Jr.'s career was in the gutters when Iron Man came out and before that he was basically a punchline and cautionary tale about why you shouldn't take drugs. Chris Evans wasn't a huge star either and Chris Hemsworth was known for a 2 minute appearance in Star Trek where he got blown up.
The only actual Marvel hero I can argue were played by big name A-listers were Ant-Man, Black Widow, and Hawkeye, and even then two of those three were just ensemble characters without their own movies.
There's a lot of factors that are gonna be going into whether or not Black Panther is a hit, but I don't think Chadwick not being a huge star is as big a strike against it as one would think.[/QUOTE]
For me personally in a lot of instances I think it's actually a good idea NOT to cast a big name actor for a super hero role.
For Ben Afflicks Daredevil for example... everytime I saw the character on screen, I saw Ben Afflick instead of Matt Murdock. And I'm pretty sure I'm going to have that problem with Batman. I suspect I'll wave that issue seeing Will Smith as Deadshot, especially when he informs me for the 10th time that he's going to save the world, but we'll see.
And I maybe that that problems with Robert Downey Jr for a few minutes, though his performance sold me on him being the definative Tony Stark so it didn't matter.
Also I'll just agree with the person prior who said that the Suicide Squad casting more than anything just seems like DC hedging its bets because they think they need star power. They realized none of those characters except Joker and Harley Quinn (and I guess Killer Croc) are known to mainstream audiences, so they're trying to build more interest by getting people like Will Smith involved.
That's not a bad thing and it's certainly a smart move, but the difference is they're in a position where they need this to work. They can't afford their shared universe to flop right out of the gate, so they're trying to take every step imaginable to make sure people want to see Suicide Squad and Batman Vs. Superman.
Marvel doesn't need stunt casting like that. The Marvel brand is strong enough that they got millions of people to go watch a movie about Rocket Raccoon and a sentient tree. DC is trying to play catch up.
[QUOTE=XPac;1647753]For me personally in a lot of instances I think it's actually a good idea NOT to cast a big name actor for a super hero role.
For Ben Afflicks Daredevil for example... everytime I saw the character on screen, I saw Ben Afflick instead of Matt Murdock. And I'm pretty sure I'm going to have that problem with Batman. I suspect I'll wave that issue seeing Will Smith as Deadshot, especially when he informs me for the 10th time that he's going to save the world, but we'll see.
And I maybe that that problems with Robert Downey Jr for a few minutes, though his performance sold me on him being the definative Tony Stark so it didn't matter.[/QUOTE]
I have the same problem with Affleck. I simply dont see bruce wayne. Granted, Fury just seems like Sam Jacksin, but i think that kinda fits tge ult nick fury anyway
RDJ is reverse, everytime i see him else where, i see tony stark now...
[QUOTE=JaggedFel;1647699]Eh as I said when Chris Pine is your biggest name that is a problem.[/QUOTE]
It really isn't. Wonder Woman is gonna have a lot of hype attached to it by virtue of being a superhero movie finally not about a dude. That alone is gonna put a lot of eyes on it, and even more if she gets a good showing in Batman vs. Superman.
[QUOTE=JaggedFel;1647654]Well its harder to Judge Marvel on Leads because until Doctor Strange...Marvel has never put together a true all star cast in my book which I guess since Black Panthers Follows that as the next solo makes me worried lol when I think about it. [/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what exactly this means. Marvel's never done an all-star cast because they don't need to. They've had a huge string of hit movies, many of which have starred actors that weren't big names when they were cast.
[QUOTE]I suppose Wonder Woman can rely more on the name but while that might work in America I am dubious on that working at the Global Box Office [/QUOTE]
Many of the biggest American superheroes are known around the world already. And if they aren't then that really isn't much of a challenge, it's just marketing a new property like any other movie. Iron Man and the Guardians were even more obscure outside of America then they were inside and look how that turned out.
[QUOTE=XPac;1646924]If hypothetically they do end up using Monica for the movie (and personally that's my guess) then honestly I DO think they should give Monica another shot in the comics too.
And admittedly that does come off somewhat boring sounding after Storm. Really almost anyone they throw him with arguably is going to come off boring compared to Storm. That's as close as you can get in marvel to snagging Wonder Woman.[/QUOTE]
Possibly, but I don't really mind it. The marriage is dead and gone and there's no reason to dwell on it.
The marriage was just mishandled in general, from day one, imo. Decent potential, bad execution.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1647703]I am not in love with Hudlin's run but I feel he gets shafted sometimes by BP fans because its just different from Priests run.
I feel Priests peaks are miles above Hudlins but Priest had some moments where his stuff was shit imo lol. Including how it ended. How the hell does a writer follow up on that?
Hudlins is much more steady (from my memory anyway) in quality but didnt peak like Priest.
But, i need to re read stuff again. I find myself loving RadioShack Panther more and more each time i read it lol. Need to ho back through hudlins run as well.[/QUOTE]
I don't dislike Hudlin's run because it's different from Priest's, that's fine. I dislike it because I think that it's just bad, pure and simple.
[QUOTE=XPac;1647360]Cap movies are perhaps the strongest in the line.
But beyond that I think it's pretty cool how marvel can achieve different tones in their movies to suit the characters. A Cap movie is more a political thriller, while a Ant-Man movie is a bit more of a comedic heist. I wonder if DC will be able to pull that off, because so far theyve made a Superman movie feel like a Batman movie. And I'm not sure that works across the board.[/QUOTE]
MOS felt very little like a Batman movie actually. And it would seem like they're at least trying:
-BvS seems like a good old-fashioned epic romp.
-Suicide Squad is more of a "[I]Dirty Dozen[/I] with costumes" kind of deal, with a seeming dark/twisted sense of humor to boot.
-Wonder Woman is a period piece set in WWI, or at least part of it is.
-Given that they hired James Wan to direct Aquaman, I'm betting on lots of Lovecraftian creepy stuff/horror vibes in that movie (The Trench for instance).
-Etc.
[QUOTE=Holt;1647903]Possibly, but I don't really mind it. The marriage is dead and gone and there's no reason to dwell on it.[/QUOTE] Agreed. I'd actually like to see him move on from both Storm and Monica, and entertain a different woman all together tbh. Whether within Wakandan borders or foreign soil, and whether super powered, politically powerful or just one of those types whose not necessarily a villain but has grown to make tough decisions. Like if Shang Chi's sister from that early Hudlin arc had acquired her father's evil empire and had since hardened/matured in the process of making it strive for better ways. (that's just an ex, i have no idea what the status of all that is in the 10 years since).
BP, his youth and his adventures will outlive all of us, like with most MC/DC characters, so i'm more so just interested in seeing the story-telling avenues expanded before it inevitably comes back to the Lois Lane, MJ/Gwen, Selina Kyle, Steve Trevor, Monica Lynns, etc of the world (before then jettisoning off again in that continuous cycle of sorts).
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1647584]Funny thing is the fact that for months I have been saying Marvel needs a hire a director and a good screenwriter for the film but I was told that its too early for that that they have 2-3 years till release and now people are accepting that fact now.
Thats why I said the sooner the better. You have time to plan shooting locations, corrections on anything in the script and hiring actors because now that the release date has been pushed to February 2018, shooting has to start between November 2016-February 2017. Just saying[/QUOTE]
Based off of previous Marvel productions, filming will begin in the first or second week of February 2017. Depending on schedules, it could be a little earlier than that, but (Avengers films as exceptions), Marvel's been pretty steady with filming starting almost exactly one year before the film's release.
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In regards to casting, I think Marvel should tap Disney and get Kerry Washington as a love interest and Lupita Nyong'o as Shuri. Both are names, Kerry will help draw in the female audience from Scandal. Lupita's been working with Disney (Star Wars: The Force Awakens, the Jungle Book), and while she's a recognizable face/name, I don't think she'd cost too much.
T'Chaka is hard. Like off of name/marquee value, Denzel is an obvious option, but you could have a situation like Godzilla where Denzel dying kills the film.
[QUOTE=robreedwrites;1648106]Based off of previous Marvel productions, filming will begin in the first or second week of February 2017. Depending on schedules, it could be a little earlier than that, but (Avengers films as exceptions), Marvel's been pretty steady with filming starting almost exactly one year before the film's release.
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In regards to casting, I think Marvel should tap Disney and get Kerry Washington as a love interest and Lupita Nyong'o as Shuri. Both are names, Kerry will help draw in the female audience from Scandal. Lupita's been working with Disney (Star Wars: The Force Awakens, the Jungle Book), and while she's a recognizable face/name, I don't think she'd cost too much.
T'Chaka is hard. Like off of name/marquee value, Denzel is an obvious option, but you could have a situation like Godzilla where Denzel dying kills the film.[/QUOTE]
They probably know what they are doing so if they are going to start shooting February then thats cool. Just saying that it may be good to shoot earlier so that at least they can be able to show something in the 2017 Comic-Con, that will generate a good word of mouth, that will then lead to an Highly anticipated film. it also depends on the route and setting they are going with the film. If its going to be like Ant-man then shooting may take 3-4 months but if they are going the Age of Ultron type of spectacle then it will probably take like 5-6 months to shoot. Its all up to Marvel and I hope Feige knows what he is doing
As for casting my pick for share would either be Lupita N'yongo or Teyonnah Paris from Chi-raq. Damn she fine
[img]http://www.caribpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Teyonah-Parris-courtesy-of-Royalty-Image.jpg[/img]
As for T'Chaka. My pick would be Dennis Haysbert but that is just wishful thinking
[img]http://www.blackfilm.com/read/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Dennis-Haysbert.jpg[/img]
I imagine that Marvel will do what they usually do. Namely surround Chadwick Boseman with a bunch of big names/legitimate talent.
-They cast RDJ, who was just starting to rebuild his career after his "personal issues" pretty much destroyed it. And then they got people like Jeff Bridges, Gwyneth Paltrow, Terrance Howard, etc to be his co-stars.
-They cast the relatively unknown Chris Hemsworth to play Thor, and then got Natalie Portman, Stellan Skaarsgard, Sir Anthony Hopkins, Rene Russo, Idris Elba, etc to be in the film as well.
-Chris Evans had Tommy Lee Jones, Hugo Weaving, Toby Jones, Stanley Tucci, etc as his co-stars in TFA, and then Scarlett Johansson, SLJ, Anthony Mackie, Robert freaking Redford, etc in TWS.
-Doctor Strange has Benedict Cumberbatch, Rachel McAdams, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Mads Mikkelsen, etc.
-Etc.
So I see little reason why BP would be any different in that regard.
[QUOTE=Punisher007;1648237]I imagine that Marvel will do what they usually do. Namely surround Chadwick Boseman with a bunch of big names/legitimate talent.
-They cast RDJ, who was just starting to rebuild his career after his "personal issues" pretty much destroyed it. And then they got people like Jeff Bridges, Gwyneth Paltrow, Terrance Howard, etc to be his co-stars.
-They cast the relatively unknown Chris Hemsworth to play Thor, and then got Natalie Portman, Stellan Skaarsgard, Sir Anthony Hopkins, Rene Russo, Idris Elba, etc to be in the film as well.
-Chris Evans had Tommy Lee Jones, Hugo Weaving, Toby Jones, Stanley Tucci, etc as his co-stars in TFA, and then Scarlett Johansson, SLJ, Anthony Mackie, Robert freaking Redford, etc in TWS.
-Doctor Strange has Benedict Cumberbatch, Rachel McAdams, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Mads Mikkelsen, etc.
-Etc.
So I see little reason why BP would be any different in that regard.[/QUOTE]
They aren't a lot go Big name black actors/actresses at the moment. The ones I can think off are
Denzel Washington
Morgan Freeman (Whom I want to see play N'Gassi)
Angela Basset
David Oyelowo
Danny Glover
Jeffrey Wright
Gabrielle Union etc
And not all are exactly big names that would draw people in but we will see. At least they already have Andy Serkis and maybe Martin Freeman depending on what he is playing in Civil War
[QUOTE=Darthkostis;1647493]Indeed. One thing I'm worried about is that they're going to go with "quantum physics" as the source of magic...Which makes no sense for a Doctor Strange movie. Magic is just...magic, it doesn't need any scientific explaination, otherwise it loses its charm. There's a big push to erase anything supernatural related in modern nerd culture and just replace it with "SCIENCE!" in order to feed into the reader's/watcher's ego of "hells yeah, I'm a scientist brah". Look, I love science, I do. I frequent physics boards, I look into spacetime stuff (wormholes, black holes, time dialation, paradoxes, everything), I've read the entirety of the Relativity chapter in my school book even though it's not in the syllabus and I'm studying for medicine. But I just can't stand this trend of seemingly erasing anything supernatural related in movies/comics in favor of made-up science terms.
That's the one reason why I'm sceptical about both the BP and DS movies. I'm afraid that they're going to turn Bast into just an old myth that the current Wakandans have gotten over, since they're so technologically advanced that they do not believe in such sily things as "fairy tales", and that, IMO, is a mistake. Not every smart person lacks spiritual believes, that's just something ignorant people who can't put up with other people's views made up. I mean, believe whatever you want, whether that is something or nothing but please, leave the characters out of it. Doctor Strange is a magician, end of story. He talks to Gods everyday, and in his world they exist. Don't try and change them and make them "oh, they're just aliens from an unihabited dimension hidden behind massive amounts of required energy". That changes absolutely nothing instead of just spouting of Doctor Who Level Mumbo-Jumbo (I love Doctor Who, but come on, it's corny and that's why we like it) in order to avoid saying "magic", "demon", "god", etc, etc...[/QUOTE]
I totally agree with everything you've said here my friend. :cool:
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1647584]Funny thing is the fact that for months I have been saying Marvel needs a hire a director and a good screenwriter for the film but I was told that its too early for that that they have 2-3 years till release and now people are accepting that fact now.
Thats why I said the sooner the better. You have time to plan shooting locations, corrections on anything in the script and hiring actors because now that the release date has been pushed to February 2018, shooting has to start between November 2016-February 2017. Just saying[/QUOTE]
Your arguments were soundly presented but you know how it goes in this thread sometimes.
The minute genuine concerns are made about where the BP mythos are being taken, some start to complain that all the fun is being drained out of the thread. :D
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1648261]
And not all are exactly big names that would draw people in but we will see. At least they already have Andy Serkis and maybe Martin Freeman depending on what he is playing in Civil War[/QUOTE]
Big names in the supporting roles aren't really necessary to the film's success. The most famous person in Guardians of the Galaxy was probably Bradley Cooper, and they had him voicing a CGI creature.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1648261]They aren't a lot go Big name black actors/actresses at the moment. The ones I can think off are
Denzel Washington
Morgan Freeman (Whom I want to see play N'Gassi)
Angela Basset
David Oyelowo
Danny Glover
Jeffrey Wright
Gabrielle Union etc
And not all are exactly big names that would draw people in but we will see. At least they already have Andy Serkis and maybe Martin Freeman depending on what he is playing in Civil War[/QUOTE]
It's like like they're restricted to just getting big name black actors though.
If they hypothetically want more star power for the supporting cast (not that they necessarily need it at this point since the marvel brand name alone I think will do a descent job of bringing in an audience at this point), I'm sure there will be plenty of roles available to characters of various races. I'm sure there are plenty of US government agents for example.
That said, getting Denzel or Freeman for something would be pretty cool.
[QUOTE=Holt;1648280]Big names in the supporting roles aren't really necessary to the film's success. The most famous person in Guardians of the Galaxy was probably Bradley Cooper, and they had him voicing a CGI creature.[/QUOTE]
There's some descent star power in there with people like Glen Close, Vin Diesel and Benecio Del Toro.
But I certainly agree with your overall point as I don't honestly believe people really went to see the move for any of those characters playing relatively mirnor roles. The marvel brand name itself is enough to garner a pretty descent audience, provided they can keep the momentum they have now. And I don't see them slowing down too much with Civil War coming down the pike.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1648208]They probably know what they are doing so if they are going to start shooting February then thats cool. Just saying that it may be good to shoot earlier so that at least they can be able to show something in the 2017 Comic-Con, that will generate a good word of mouth, that will then lead to an Highly anticipated film. it also depends on the route and setting they are going with the film. If its going to be like Ant-man then shooting may take 3-4 months but if they are going the Age of Ultron type of spectacle then it will probably take like 5-6 months to shoot. Its all up to Marvel and I hope Feige knows what he is doing
As for casting my pick for share would either be Lupita N'yongo or Teyonnah Paris from Chi-raq. Damn she fine
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As for T'Chaka. My pick would be Dennis Haysbert but that is just wishful thinking
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I love Teyonah Parris. Haven't seen Chi-raq yet, but I really like her work in Dear White People. I know she was on Mad Men, but I've never watched that show beyond the first two episodes.
I like Dennis Haysbert. I'm not sure that he feels like T'Chaka to me, but I'd rather him than Ernie Hudson. If it wasn't for the possibility of Snipes being folded into the MCU as Blade, I could see him as T'Chaka as well, especially with his history trying to get BP off the ground.
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1648273]Your arguments were soundly presented but you know how it goes in this thread sometimes.
The minute genuine concerns are made about where the BP mythos are being taken, some start to complain that all the fun is being drained out of the thread. :D[/QUOTE]
They arent genuine concerns. There chicken little concerns. Marvel is gonna be at what... 14ish movies by the time BP comes out? I think they got it down pat lol. I am sure they know how to find locations and such in plenty of time.
Hell antman lost its director/writer/mktivator in the middle of the process and they just adapted on the fly seamlessly.
There are much better things to worry about.
Btw mr. M. Since u are here and you have a clear cut view on what you expect out of tchalla and his mythos...
What are your top 5 ish BP arcs/stories?
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1648265]I totally agree with everything you've said here my friend. :cool:[/QUOTE]
I know, right? Spirituality is much a part of Wakanda's history as their tech. It'd be a huge mistake to overlook it in favor of "science, bitches" (that's a legit line from a comic book btw). Even Doctor Who, which always explains stuff with aliens/alternate dimensions sometimes leaves things open to interpretation. But this trend of just making everything into pseudo-science isn't to my liking...
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1648386]They arent genuine concerns. There chicken little concerns. Marvel is gonna be at what... 14ish movies by the time BP comes out? I think they got it down pat lol. [/QUOTE]
I don't even mind that, it was the negative contrasts to DC's films I didn't get. DC is just now getting its act together and is rather blatantly trying to chase Marvel, who as you said have had something around 10 hit films with only one flub thus far.
They may not be everyone's cup of tea, sure, but people acting like they're going to intentionally screw T'Challa or have no idea what they're doing is a little premature.
[QUOTE=Holt;1648447]I don't even mind that, it was the negative contrasts to DC's films I didn't get. DC is just now getting its act together and is rather blatantly trying to chase Marvel, who as you said have had something around 10 hit films with only one flub thus far.
They may not be everyone's cup of tea, sure, but people acting like they're going to intentionally screw T'Challa or have no idea what they're doing is a little premature.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it isnt like they want to fail lol. And like i have said before, BP is at an advantage with his solo that the other solos wont and didnt have...
He will have a previous appearance in the MCU. And his likely to be villain has already been introduced. No one else has been that lucky.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1648566]Yeah, it isnt like they want to fail lol. And like i have said before, BP is at an advantage with his solo that the other solos wont and didnt have...
He will have a previous appearance in the MCU. And his likely to be villain has already been introduced. No one else has been that lucky.[/QUOTE]
That's a good point. I wonder if maybe they should try and utulize that formula from now on. Debuting characters in other places THEN giving them the solo. DC's seemingly will be doing that with their characters.
And I guess to a degree the Inhumans are already getting a lot of mention in Agents of SHIELD, though probably not the main Inhumans we'll be seeing in the movie. I guess they're the luckiest franchise in that regard since they've got an entire TV show which will be slowly building them up for years.