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[QUOTE=Dboi654;656338]I just read on priest's blog that no one has reached him to do a script whats over so that's that
but we are still in early developments so anything can happen
ps:He didn't even know a bp film was going to happen[/QUOTE]
EH ok. I wish he was though lol
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Hudlin should definitely be involved! The guy is a major BP supporter. He will do his best to ensure that BP does not come off as a glorified sidekick. BP can match wits with Stark and match strength with Cap. He doesn't need to be standing in anybody shadow and I think Hudlin would let everybody know that.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;656334]Feige said he was meeting with Hudlin and mentioned him as a possible director fo rthe movie
The Russo brothers were just seen meeting with Hudlin... which makes a hell of a lot of sense now that we know T'challa is going ot show up in Cap 3.
So yes... he is already involved. How much more he will be involved (whether as a consultant or director) remains to be seen.
Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of Hudlin's run in comparison to Priest or Liss but... the dude wrote BP in the comics. If he is involved... we are getting comic book T'challa, not some weak ass version of that.
Does anyone know if someone consulted with Yost during EMH? T'challa was nailed there too. Doesn't Yost do a lot of Marvels script stuff?[/QUOTE]
I'd prefer Yost not to be involed while his T'Challa is usually good/a lil greatness here & their.. His handling of Wakanda IMO ranging from leaving a lot to be desired to terrible.. While RH or & CJP or both will give us a great T'Challa & a great Wakanda IMO..
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[QUOTE=Double 0;656342]When it comes to Hudlin, I'd rather he produce or work more as an adviser (or a "point man" or whatever). I want someone who will knock it out of the park directing wise. Someone that can make Black Panther look and feel like no other Marvel film. The Russo's did that with Cap 2, and Gunn did that with GotG.
I want a fresh approach in terms of writing and directing. Unique, noticeable off the first glance. I don't think that type of homerun would happen with Hudlin. I say they look for another up and coming director who's got a fresh perspective but with craft chops to smooth out the edges.
In short, it can't be the Thor movies. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Exactly what I was saying
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;656292]well received by both audiences and critics[/QUOTE]
House Party and Boomerang.
He also produced D'Jango Unchained for which he received an Oscar nomination for best movie and he was reponsible for the Black Panther animated DVD based on the six issue mini series "Who Is The Black Panther?" written by Hudlin and illustrated by John Romita Jr.
At the end of the day, all that any of us should want for this movie, is a Director who's commited to pulling out all the stops for the BP character and Wakanda and one who won't feel the need to water down the mythos or chump out any of the concepts.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;656288]I want to give hudlin a chance i really do but when I look at what he has done in some of the issues, I'm just like bro are you serious.[/QUOTE]
Please give examples of what it is Hudlin did in these issues that you did not like.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;656292]I just don't want bp to be a commercial and a critical flop. [/QUOTE]
Have you ever known any of the Marvel movies to flop?
[QUOTE=Dboi654;656292]That's how they will "oh we made a black panther movie but it's didn't work"
making the fans look like idiots[/QUOTE]
Why would BP fans look like idiots on the highly unlikely off chance that the movie flops?
I'd like to believe that with all of the criticism Marvel have recieved for taking this long to launch a mainstream, big budget movie featuring the Black Panther, they'll be pulling out all the stops to ensure that the movie is solid irrespective of who's directing it.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;656292]i just want the best for t'challa[/QUOTE]
And you think the rest of us don't? :confused:
The fact that you seem to see Reginald Hudlin's possible involvement with the BP movie as being synonymous with failure is puzzling to me and as such, my question to you is, who would you like to direct the Black Panther movie?
And more importantly will you blame them too if the movie flops?
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Reginald Hudlin... The spirit of The Point Man lives! :D
I am running out of reasons to TROLL here somebody bring back Roy Thomas so I have a legitimate reason to rant!
Remember the good ole days... Well actually about two days ago when we could complain and vent and there was a valid reason to do so!
Mods take the week off I have absolutely nothing to moderate for you and nothing to delete! :cool:
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[QUOTE=Double 0;656342]
In short, it can't be the Thor movies. :cool:[/QUOTE]
I love Thor and his movies personally but...
BP needs a director that can flesh out Wakanda better than Asgard has been fleshed out so far.
Trying to "ground" asgard using that Game of Thrones guy did not work how I hoped.
(and thsi is coming from someone who liked the Thor movies personally.)
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Just make sure it's a living breathing nation. Sure theres a sci fi/fantasy twist to it. That's the fun in it. The utopian aspects. The grounding thing wouldn't really apply b/c this isn't neccesarily a city of gods like Asgard. I mean this thing is looking to be a political thriller to me.
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[QUOTE=Moose100;656340]Yes he does. And this is my point. Theres alot of people working on these things over a long period of time.
Name a better point man than Hudlin?[/QUOTE]
There is no better [B]point man[/B] than Reginald Hudlin.
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I don't think Hudlin should be the director, but I would definitely like to see him as the producer. House Party may be looked at as a "Dance/Party" movie, but I think from another aspect it encompassed an accurate portrayal of black youth of it's time . I had no doubt that if he was on board it would be a positive portrayal for black people worldwide.
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[QUOTE=Jabare;653489]Boseman knew he was T'Challa back in August. Bank on it
[video=youtube;5yJmgmfVmCk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yJmgmfVmCk[/video]
[B]Also who should Stan Lee cameo as?[/B] A Wakandan chieftain? ;)[/QUOTE]
He can be the guy BP bought from New York to open up a Pizza stan in Wakanda!
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His face gave it away too lol!!
He got that look like "dog I can't tell you..." lol!
Like he got busted or something..
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[QUOTE=UltimateTy;656329]Hudlin is a good director, I was watching that new Taye Diggs showing a few months back and I was surprised when I saw his name in the credits. I just really don't care to see his take on BP again, If he didn't write BP I wouldn't be against this.[/QUOTE]
I seriously doubt that Hudlin will go strictly with his own version of BP from the comics. There will be tweaks to pay homage to past Black Panther writers(Roy Thomas excluded). There will be bits and pieces from everyone that will likely show up in the movie.
What are the chances of Shuri being in a Black Panther movie? I hope it's a very strong one. She could lead the Hatute Zeraze.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;656481]I seriously doubt that Hudlin will go strictly with his own version of BP from the comics. There will be tweaks to pay homage to past Black Panther writers(Roy Thomas excluded). There will be bits and pieces from everyone that will likely show up in the movie.
What are the chances of Shuri being in a Black Panther movie? I hope it's a very strong one. She could lead the Hatute Zeraze.[/QUOTE]
Agreed 100%. :cool:
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;656481]I seriously doubt that Hudlin will go strictly with his own version of BP from the comics. There will be tweaks to pay homage to past Black Panther writers(Roy Thomas excluded). There will be bits and pieces from everyone that will likely show up in the movie.
What are the chances of Shuri being in a Black Panther movie? I hope it's a very strong one. She could lead the Hatute Zeraze.[/QUOTE]
Right. It's like there's this syndrome there with comics fans that when these things are announced they assume that the comic will be 1000% adapted panel by panel. Like it's happened with all of these movies so far. Look at the reaction to Civil War.
They'll either freak out b/c it's not adapted enough or freak out under the assumption that it still will be adapted this way even from a "bad" comic or writer. This idea either way persists.
The studios work on and vet these for a LONG time. Look at what happened with Ant-Man. It looks a mess to us but I think that is going to be a good movie. There's too much talent involved for it to be a flop.
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I think that Shuri should be in the movie. The movie really needs to show the rich mythology of BP’s world and Shuri is a part of that.
I also think that it very important that BP gets a good showing in the [B]Captain America: Civil War[/B]. The reason people want to see a Black Widow movie is because they have enjoyed her appearances in the MCU. The Hulk stole the show in [B]The Avengers[/B] and now fans are asking for Mark Ruffalo’s Hulk to get a solo. BP really needs to knock it out of the park in Captain America so people will be clamoring to see more of him.
I think War Machine is basically Stark’s sidekick in the MCU. I don’t want BP to be Cap’s second stringer. BP is a star that needs to shine brightly whenever he appears.
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[QUOTE=Rey Leopard;656642]I think that Shuri should be in the movie. The movie really needs to show the rich mythology of BP’s world and Shuri is a part of that.
I also think that it very important that BP gets a good showing in the [B]Captain America: Civil War[/B]. The reason people want to see a Black Widow movie is because they have enjoyed her appearances in the MCU. The Hulk stole the show in [B]The Avengers[/B] and now fans are asking for Mark Ruffalo’s Hulk to get a solo. BP really needs to knock it out of the park in Captain America so people will be clamoring to see more of him.
I think War Machine is basically Stark’s sidekick in the MCU. I don’t want BP to be Cap’s second stringer. BP is a star that needs to shine brightly whenever he appears.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I don't think BP will be a second stringer. It's more about establishing their relationship. Their friendship. That's an aspect of both characters that needs to be shown on the big screen.
The fact that they announced it this way means that it's substantial role and not a cameo.
Shuri would kill in this movie!!
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[QUOTE=Moose100;656653]I agree. I don't think BP will be a second stringer. It's more about establishing their relationship. Their friendship. That's an aspect of both characters that needs to be shown on the big screen.
The fact that they announced it this way means that it's substantial role and not a cameo.
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I hope you are correct. I really enjoy the relationship between BP and Cap in the comics. I wish more writers would choose to explore it. I hope they get it right in the MCU.
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top 5 directors for Black Panther film
1. Brad Bird (Check that guy's resume)
2. F. Gary Gray
3. Russo Brothers
4. Neil Blomkamp
5. Antoine Fuqua (that's if the script is good)
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[QUOTE=Rey Leopard;656683]I hope you are correct. I really enjoy the relationship between BP and Cap in the comics. I wish more writers would choose to explore it. I hope they get it right in the MCU.[/QUOTE]
I think really that is the point of the appearance. Maybe they will fight a little like in the CW tie ins but thats what they are pointing to imo.
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[B][SIZE=5]Is Marvel's Black Panther the big break for a black superhero?[/SIZE][/B]
[img]http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/10/29/1414587223334/Black-Panther-011.jpg[/img]
Chadwick Boseman has been cast as Black Panther, Marvel’s first ever lead black superhero. It’s a breakthrough moment for a genre that’s been steadily maturing – but can it avoid tired exotic imagery?
Marvel’s film universe continues to steadily expand outwards – now that core comic-book characters like the Incredible Hulk, Iron Man and Captain America have gone supernova, new stars are filling up the firmament, presumably until there isn’t a single month of the year that isn’t glowing with a Marvel release.
The newly announced films are two-part Avengers sequel Infinity War and a Captain America movie called Civil War, alongside new film outings for Doctor Strange and – most interestingly – Black Panther.
The latter will be Marvel’s first lead black superhero, and it’s a breakthrough moment. The positioning of this ethnic minority as heroic – however tortured that heroism may likely be – is a valuable statement in this most high profile of US pop cultural products, in a year when the dominant media image of black men has been as subordinated to (often white) police.
There’s a crucial difference between Black Panther and the other black superheroes of late, in that the character carries the picture, rather than supports white heroes. Nick Fury of the Avengers has something impotent and pen-pushing about him; Idris Elba’s Heimdall in Thor may have angered fanboys, but wasn’t given a tremendous amount to do; Michael B Jordan’s forthcoming take on the Human Torch in a new Fantastic Four movie will likely be in hock to a white Mr Fantastic; and even The Incredibles’ Frozone was your classic black wisecracker sidekick.
Black Panther could well be very different. The first major black superhero ever, he first dropped in to help out the Avengers in the 1960s comic books, in the aforementioned supporting-man style. But he was then given an epic canvas with Panther’s Rage, a 200-page tale across multiple issues that dealt with his struggle against violent antagonists in the fictional African nation of Wakanda. The next story arc saw him travel to the US to fight the Ku Klux Klan. This strong heritage, combined with Marvel’s renewed zest for allegory as shown in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, means that a film with as politically resonant a title as Black Panther could address afrocentricity as well as ass-kicking. Chadwick Boseman, whose upcoming performance in James Brown biopic Get On Up brilliantly manages to avoid bland impersonation, is excellent casting.
The challenge is not to exoticise. Black Panther sports tribal jewellery atop the usual skin-tight leotard – likely a nightmare when jiggling around in combat – that isn’t too clunkingly African. More problematic could be his rooting in a comic called Jungle Action, and his claws in the concept art. Comparing black people to animals, or characterising them as primitive jungle creatures, are classic racist tropes, and ones made by Marvel’s writers even as they sought to empower their character. Can this film avoid being the Um Bongo of cinema?
To be absolutely fair to them, Marvel is making very deliberate steps to make itself an equal opportunities universe, in its comic books as well as its films. As well as creating a female Thor, its new Captain America comics will see the black character of the Falcon take on the mantle of the leading man, after Cap has his superpowers drained by supervillain Iron Nail. Anthony Mackie, who plays the Falcon on film, could similarly end up taking on the lead character in future instalments.
A black Captain America is as dizzying and dissonant an image as a black president, and would be truly revolutionary in a country still ravaged by racism – but nevertheless, Black Panther is still an evolutionary leap in Marvel’s universe.
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2014/oct/29/marvel-black-panther-black-superhero-chadwick-boseman[/url]
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I'm getting a strong vibe from the announce t that Black Panther is kinda taking the spot of Spidey in Civil War. So I think he'll act as the pendulum of the story.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;656690]top 5 directors for Black Panther film
1. Brad Bird (Check that guy's resume)
2. F. Gary Gray
3. Russo Brothers
4. Neil Blomkamp
5. Antoine Fuqua (that's if the script is good)[/QUOTE]
What's Neil Blomkamp doing on this list?
You'd prefer a guy who portrayed African's as eaters of Extra-terrestrial sentients over Reginald Hudlin who actually has knowledge of self and a genuine proven commitment to the BP mythos? :confused:
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[QUOTE=BlackGodKing;656779]I'm getting a strong vibe from the announce t that Black Panther is kinda taking the spot of Spidey in Civil War. So I think he'll act as the pendulum of the story.[/QUOTE]
I see what you mean but there doesn't have to be a Spidey like character as it's not a full out adaptation. Secondly, I don't see Tchalla swaying for anyone. He's got his own reasons for being there. He's probably investigating the events of AoU? And why Vibranium is possibly involved?
Him playing off Stark and Rogers is probably going to be classic cinematic gold..
Didint they say Cap three is a more international type flick? This might be an angle too..
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;656798]What's Neil Blomkamp doing on this list?
You'd prefer a guy who portrayed African's as eaters of Extra-terrestrial sentients over Reginald Hudlin who actually has knowledge of self and a genuine proven commitment to the BP mythos? :confused:[/QUOTE]
Blomkamp is overrated imo.
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[QUOTE=Moose100;656806]Blomkamp is overrated imo.[/QUOTE]
that's why is low on my list
i have to wait for chappie to make my conclusion
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[QUOTE=Moose100;656806]Blomkamp is overrated imo.[/QUOTE]
Elysium had some interesting visuals but nothing really stood and the less said about his debut feature the better.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;656798]What's Neil Blomkamp doing on this list?
You'd prefer a guy who portrayed African's as eaters of Extra-terrestrial sentients over Reginald Hudlin who actually has knowledge of self and a genuine proven commitment to the BP mythos? :confused:[/QUOTE]
that was a different story for different film. besides he from south africa.i'm still not sure about him tho due to elysium which was entertaining but had some problems
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;656835]that was a different story for different film. besides he from south africa.i'm still not sure about him tho due to elysium which was entertaining but had some problems[/QUOTE]
Dude, it was an insensitive story/film rife with all of the worst stereotypes associated with Africa made all the more offensive by the origins of the director.
That alone would automatically disqualify him from consideration for such a pivotal directorial position.
I'm cool with our other choices but having looked at their respective resumes see nothing that make any of them more qualified to get the BP job done. :)
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Hell, have John Singleton do it.
You might have to physically restrain him from casting Tyrese as Killmonger but he
CAN do genre stuff and do it well.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;655931]where did you get them from?[/QUOTE]
Sorry. Just wishful swag talk.
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[QUOTE=Vic Vega;656926]Hell, have John Singleton do it.
You might have to physically restrain him from casting Tyrese as Killmonger but he
CAN do genre stuff and do it well.[/QUOTE]
I'd support Singleton, but I think Marvel needs John more than John needs Marvel. Heck, he already turned down the Luke Cage film.
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[QUOTE=Vic Vega;656926]Hell, have John Singleton do it.
[B]You might have to physically restrain him from casting Tyrese as Killmonger[/B] but he
CAN do genre stuff and do it well.[/QUOTE]
LMAO, does he cast Tyrese in all his movies?
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So guys, got a question for you.
I've always enjoyed the Panther when he shows up in whatever books Im reading (New Avengers for example), but Ive never found a good place to jump in with the character's solo titles. I did try the first issue where his sister took over and the identity of the new female Panther was a mystery.
Anyway, Ive been meaning to ask and the announcement of the film just sort of provided a great chance for me to finally do it:
What should I be reading? Sell me on the Black Panther.
Ive seen some art by Simone Biache (spelling?) and a costume that looks badass as hell, but cant find any issues the artist actually did. Where those just covers?
I hear good things about the run that Romita Jr drew. Is that worth checking out?
So where should I be looking?
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[QUOTE=Ascended;657017]So guys, got a question for you.
I've always enjoyed the Panther when he shows up in whatever books Im reading (New Avengers for example), but Ive never found a good place to jump in with the character's solo titles. I did try the first issue where his sister took over and the identity of the new female Panther was a mystery.
Anyway, Ive been meaning to ask and the announcement of the film just sort of provided a great chance for me to finally do it:
What should I be reading? Sell me on the Black Panther.
Ive seen some art by Simone Biache (spelling?) and a costume that looks badass as hell, but cant find any issues the artist actually did. Where those just covers?
I hear good things about the run that Romita Jr drew. Is that worth checking out?
So where should I be looking?[/QUOTE]
Start with Priest. Then go backwards to Don McGregor. Then sample Hundlin. He's popular, but polarizing. Not sure if you've been reading New Avengers, T'Challa kinda the moral center of the story, but it's not an action packed save the universe story, it's Woody Allen's [I]Crimes and Misdemeanors[/I] done with superheroes.
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I am not a huge fan of Hudlin's BP run. But I am a fan of his passion for T'Challa. He absolutely needs to have a hand in this movie. At the very least he will keep T'Challa from being watered down. I don't want him writing the screenplay, but he should be there demanding the upgrade T'Challa gives the quintet they gave to stark.
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[QUOTE=Ascended;657017]So guys, got a question for you.
I've always enjoyed the Panther when he shows up in whatever books Im reading (New Avengers for example), but Ive never found a good place to jump in with the character's solo titles. I did try the first issue where his sister took over and the identity of the new female Panther was a mystery.
Anyway, Ive been meaning to ask and the announcement of the film just sort of provided a great chance for me to finally do it:
What should I be reading? Sell me on the Black Panther.
Ive seen some art by Simone Biache (spelling?) and a costume that looks badass as hell, but cant find any issues the artist actually did. Where those just covers?
I hear good things about the run that Romita Jr drew. Is that worth checking out?
So where should I be looking?[/QUOTE]
Get the runs by these writers:
Christopher Priest -Black Panther Vol 3
Reginald Hudlin -Black Panther Vol 4
Reginald Hudlin -Black Panther Vol 5(Don't read Doom War)
David Liss: Black Panther: Man Without Fear
Jonathan Hickman New Avengers Vol 3
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[QUOTE=Ascended;657017]So guys, got a question for you.
I've always enjoyed the Panther when he shows up in whatever books Im reading (New Avengers for example), but Ive never found a good place to jump in with the character's solo titles. I did try the first issue where his sister took over and the identity of the new female Panther was a mystery.
Anyway, Ive been meaning to ask and the announcement of the film just sort of provided a great chance for me to finally do it:
What should I be reading? Sell me on the Black Panther.
Ive seen some art by Simone Biache (spelling?) and a costume that looks badass as hell, but cant find any issues the artist actually did. Where those just covers?
I hear good things about the run that Romita Jr drew. Is that worth checking out?
So where should I be looking?[/QUOTE]
Priest kicks ass. Definitive. First full realization of the character since his debut.
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[QUOTE=Moose100;656806]Blomkamp is overrated imo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dboi654;656827]that's why is low on my list
i have to wait for chappie to make my conclusion[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;656834]Elysium had some interesting visuals but nothing really stood and the less said about his debut feature the better.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't the same said about Kenneth Branagh's Thor choice. Russo on Captain America and Whedon on Avengers or the GoTG director prior work?
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;656798]What's Neil Blomkamp doing on this list?
You'd prefer a guy who portrayed African's as eaters of Extra-terrestrial sentients over Reginald Hudlin who actually has knowledge of self and a genuine proven commitment to the BP mythos? :confused:[/QUOTE]
because he wont be writing the film, and Hudlin will be producer to keep things 500.