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[QUOTE=davee_mac;357111]those are indeed great pictures! Although sometimes it seems all Sue does on poster/cover-type illustrations is be half-visible from the top up whilst Stretcho goes all elastic for no readily discernible reason *lol[/QUOTE]
Funnily enough, before seeing that you said this Davee, I was planning on posting the following illustration by Terry Austin...which, the impracticality of Sue's wearing high heels for some strange reason aside, is a rare one that features Sue completely visible and not half (in)visible.
[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kU3N7IuWiZA/Uci0BD9NMBI/AAAAAAAAOPU/ufrcq4WkPdk/s1600/Comics+Feature+%23017-FF+Terry+Austin.jpg[/img]
Off the top of my head, Art Adams' exquisite 2007 (drawn then)/08 (released then) poster offering is another FF shot that broke the typical mold with Sue's portrayal/not being half (in)visible.
[img]http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/294/5/2/Art_Adams_Fantastic_Four_Cover_by_CeeCeeLuvins.jpg[/img]
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hee hee; those are great too... and I agree about Sue's bizarre choice of footwear in that top one!
(there's a point - footwear! I always did like the standardised 'bouncy/rubbery' boots they all wore when they were being drawn by Mike Weringo. Even Ben!)
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[QUOTE=davee_mac;329362]
I...... may be in a minority here but I like the new uniforms. Although inverting the red/black on Reed and Sue's costumes seems to have been tempting fate a bit, seeing the way their relationship has been heading. In FF, perhaps men are from Mars, women are from a parallel Mars accessed via a dimensional portal... ;)[/QUOTE]
at first i hated the red...but i admit it has since grown on me. i know Robinson said there was an in-story reason for the change...still waiting for that.
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Speaking of Robinson and the red uniforms...I have another theory as to who the mastermind behind the FF's series of unfortunate events might be...
Could it be...SATA, er, [b]MEPHISTO?![/b]
Well, no not really...but Mephistopheles and his obvious penchant for red *could* explain the FF's red dread-threads. [img]http://emoticons4u.com/evil/1382.gif[/img]
Actually, my second and for real candidate after Mad Thinker is...the Miracle Man. What is to say that everything to have occurred in the FF's lives over the last several months have not all been merely hypnotic suggestions? And right down to their uniforms (which, sorry to all of the red likers, can't go back to being blue quick enough :p ) also being an illusion...Robinson's comments about the uniforms playing a role in everything finally got me to thinking about that some. And if he pulls that rabbit out of his hat (no pun intended), that just might be even more cool than Mad Thinker...although either one making their first appearance in quite sometime makes me as giddy as all of the other past under-utilized FF cast member stops Robinson has pulled thus far.
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[QUOTE=Miss Fantastic;371120]Speaking of Robinson and the red uniforms...I have another theory as to who the mastermind behind the FF's series of unfortunate events might be...
Could it be...SATA, er, [b]MEPHISTO?![/b]
Well, no not really...but Mephistopheles and his obvious penchant for red *could* explain the FF's red dread-threads. [img]http://emoticons4u.com/evil/1382.gif[/img]
Actually, my second and for real candidate after Mad Thinker is...the Miracle Man. What is to say that everything to have occurred in the FF's lives over the last several months have not all been merely hypnotic suggestions? And right down to their uniforms (which, sorry to all of the red likers, can't go back to being blue quick enough :p ) also being an illusion...Robinson's comments about the uniforms playing a role in everything finally got me to thinking about that some. And if he pulls that rabbit out of his hat (no pun intended), that just might be even more cool than Mad Thinker...although either one making their first appearance in quite sometime makes me as giddy as all of the other past under-utilized FF cast member stops Robinson has pulled thus far.[/QUOTE]
Mad Thinker would make sense. Wizard said the brains behind everything was smarter or as smart as Reed. outside of guys like Stark, Pym and Doom that has to be a short list.
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Ahem.
Four (fittingly) stories and arcs of our beloved quartet made it to Marvel's [URL="http://marvel.com/news/comics/2014/8/8/23034/find_out_the_75_greatest_marvel_comics_of_all-time"]75 Greatest Marvel Comics of All-Time[/URL]! They are:
71. FANTASTIC FOUR #262
40. FANTASTIC FOUR #285 (Johnny's featured story, obviously my favorite)
23. FANTASTIC FOUR: THE GALACTUS TRILOGY
14. FANTASTIC FOUR (1961) #1
However, only the latter three are included in the $99 Marvel 75th Anniversary Omnibus scheduled for shipping in November, as listed [URL="http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54690"]here[/URL].
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Wow...just wow. What interesting selections, and while I'm certainly glad the FF do have those selections, I have to confess that I'm disappointed at the positions of two of them...FF #1 should be #1 (worst case #2, just like back when they did the [i]100 Greatest Marvels[/i] back in 2001 (obviously for the 40th anniversary of modern Marvel) ) for the pure and simple fact that no FF #1 practically equals no Marvel Universe, and the ignorance and degrading of such is garbage, to put it quite politely. And the Galactus Trilogy should at least be top fifteen, if not top ten. As for FF #262 and 285...while they were definitely among the better-best stories of the later half of Byrne's run, I don't know if they should have been the representatives of such a legendary run. My heavy bias towards it aside, FF #236/"Terror In A Tiny Town" should have been THE pick to rep Byrne's FF, and should have made the top fifty easy. I'm also shocked that FF #51/"This Man, This Monster!" did not make it...that and #236 are THE issues I've seen even non-FF fans admit were incredibly well crafted comic book stories and among the best ever made. FF #5 should have been included as well...further proving that just like his sworn enemies, Doom (unusually) doesn't seem to be getting much respect lately either. [img]http://emoticons4u.com/mad/299.gif[/img]
Speaking of "This Man, This Monster"...here's a nifty animated version of the iconic cover.
[img]http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2012/10/ff51ck.gif[/img]
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Yeah, I was disappointed by Fantastic Four #1 not making it to the top of the list, as well as "This Man, This Monster" being omitted.
On the side, author Ron Marz paid tribute to The King for his approaching birth anniversary with a mention of Fantastic Four [URL="http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54842"]here[/URL]:
[QUOTE=Ron Marz]The first time I encountered Jack Kirby's work was in a cardboard box in our basement when I was maybe 5 years-old. The box contained my older brother's comics, a pile of mostly Marvel issues, classic stuff like early "Amazing Spider-Man" and [B]"Fantastic Four"[/B] and "Avengers." Even then, they were redolent with the "old comics" smell of musty newsprint.
I was young enough that I probably couldn't read those issues very well. But I remember sitting in the cool of the basement on warm summer days, and being fascinated just paging through the issues, looking at the pictures. [B]I was especially fascinated by "Fantastic Four," because I found the artwork to be... well, frightening. I don't mean the fearsome designs for Doctor Doom or the Dragon Man. I mean the art itself. The square fingers, the tortured poses. To my child eyes, it was grotesque. But I couldn't look away. I returned to those pages again and again, repelled and yet keenly attracted.[/B][/QUOTE]
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[img]http://smileyshack.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/shappy_clap_100-102.gif[/img]
At the risk of sounding like Don LaFontaine, in a world that is so insistent on the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy (never thought I'd ever type them...what strange times...) getting uber-pushes, Ron Marz' quote and singling out of the FF and its forever exquisite Kirby art is quite heartwarming to this Fantastic and has already made my day. Thank you so, SO much for posting it Ray. :) And although I will never deny that Kirby's art for [i]The Mighty Thor[/i] was awe-inspiring and broke many a cosmic/psychedelic barrier, I believe the evolution of his art in FF, from the more simplistic work seen in the earliest issues (but not as 'simplistic' as you'd think...[i]Maximum FF[/i] demos this splendidly, and I highly recommend it if you can find it at a fraction of its original $50 price tag) to the very material described by Marz, was, is, and will always be just as, if not more amazing.
Here's some more animated Kirby sweetness...
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qqmnWY1QQa4/UIw1q9tESeI/AAAAAAAABy0/DllyDZbK1G0/s1600/Kirby_Tech.gif[/img]
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Sometimes I wish that Sue was a surgeon, it could make sense especially if she wanted to honor the family's trade, or her fathers memory. It would give her another interesting aspect to her character and it would be great to see her turn someones chest invisible and do emergency surgery with her forcefeilds. Just a thought I have sometimes that I wanted to share.
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[QUOTE=Miss Fantastic;413849][img]http://smileyshack.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/shappy_clap_100-102.gif[/img]
At the risk of sounding like Don LaFontaine, in a world that is so insistent on the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy (never thought I'd ever type them...what strange times...) getting uber-pushes, Ron Marz' quote and singling out of the FF and its forever exquisite Kirby art is quite heartwarming to this Fantastic and has already made my day. Thank you so, SO much for posting it Ray. :) And although I will never deny that Kirby's art for [i]The Mighty Thor[/i] was awe-inspiring and broke many a cosmic/psychedelic barrier, I believe the evolution of his art in FF, from the more simplistic work seen in the earliest issues (but not as 'simplistic' as you'd think...[i]Maximum FF[/i] demos this splendidly, and I highly recommend it if you can find it at a fraction of its original $50 price tag) to the very material described by Marz, was, is, and will always be just as, if not more amazing.
Here's some more animated Kirby sweetness...
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qqmnWY1QQa4/UIw1q9tESeI/AAAAAAAABy0/DllyDZbK1G0/s1600/Kirby_Tech.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
That's a great gif
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Relatively new fan to the FF. First proper outing was the Waid/Wieringo run in the "ultimate collection" paperbacks which I finished up a few weeks ago now. I'm also currently, and steadily, working my way through the first Hickman omnibus, which I'm trying to pad out 'til the second one drops in November. I am absolutely loving his take so far though - his brand of high concept, fast paced sci-fi goes hand-in-hand perfectly with Marvel's First Family. Sure, his character drama tends to take a backseat to the plot and spectacle, but it is still very much present. If anything, the fact that his characterisation is more subtle and understated makes it all the more effective in my opinion. I can easily say his [I]Fantastic Four[/I] run is shaping up to be one of my favourite superhero comics of the last five to ten years (alongside the likes of his run on [I]Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates[/I] and Scott Snyder's work on [I]Detective Comics[/I]).
In regards to James Robinson's series so far; it's no surprise that I'm enjoying it because I'm of fan of the writer since his [I]Starman[/I] days. I even went out of my way to nab [URL="http://i.imgur.com/kbXUUIb.jpg"]the exquisite Jerome Opeña first issue variant[/URL], and I never usually do variants. Of course, this 'Fall of the Fantastic Four' arc is pretty heavy but I'm looking forward to Robinson developing a longform epic where the four eventually come back united again, as strong and brilliant as ever. Oh, I like the red uniforms, too. They're particularly striking and visually they'll help define this period of the FF, much like how the white did for the Future Foundation.
One quick question however; was Fraction's 20 or so issues any good?
I'm thinking about getting the trades of that as well.
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[QUOTE=New Order;433325]Relatively new fan to the FF. First proper outing was the Waid/Wieringo run in the "ultimate collection" paperbacks which I finished up a few weeks ago now. I'm also currently, and steadily, working my way through the first Hickman omnibus, which I'm trying to pad out 'til the second one drops in November. I am absolutely loving his take so far though - his brand of high concept, fast paced sci-fi goes hand-in-hand perfectly with Marvel's First Family. Sure, his character drama tends to take a backseat to the plot and spectacle, but it is still very much present. If anything, the fact that his characterisation is more subtle and understated makes it all the more effective in my opinion. I can easily say his [I]Fantastic Four[/I] run is shaping up to be one of my favourite superhero comics of the last five to ten years (alongside the likes of his run on [I]Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates[/I] and Scott Snyder's work on [I]Detective Comics[/I]).
In regards to James Robinson's series so far; it's no surprise that I'm enjoying it because I'm of fan of the writer since his [I]Starman[/I] days. I even went out of my way to nab [URL="http://i.imgur.com/kbXUUIb.jpg"]the exquisite Jerome Opeña first issue variant[/URL], and I never usually do variants. Of course, this 'Fall of the Fantastic Four' arc is pretty heavy but I'm looking forward to Robinson developing a longform epic where the four eventually come back united again, as strong and brilliant as ever. Oh, I like the red uniforms, too. They're particularly striking and visually they'll help define this period of the FF, much like how the white did for the Future Foundation.
One quick question however; was Fraction's 20 or so issues any good?
I'm thinking about getting the trades of that as well.[/QUOTE]
FYI- there is an omnibus (collects Fractions entire FF run) coming out 2/5. as to the content- the consensus seems to be the FF was good but the Fantastic Four just average at best) PS- 32 issues (16 of each series)
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So, the blue uniforms are back. Different, but still blue. I hope that Sue's hair isn't really like that though...
[IMG]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img661/1199/NK5Dyk.jpg[/IMG]
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Hooray!! And I LOVE how early Byrne run reminiscent that is between the uniforms going back to a light-ish/medium blue (despite the modernized logo, which I *gasp* actually like) like they were then and Sue's hair. I guess if I might be in a minority (what else is new?), but I honestly like Sue's hair in that illustration and how it harks back to the way she wore her hair during the early half of the Byrne run. IMO, Sue's hair has always looked that much better when it's short and/or layered...the said early 80's cut and this are probably my most favorite of the dos Sue has rocked through the years.
[img]http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/af/0c/ca/af0cca9a59a46acc4efc370365043cf3.jpg[/img]
BTW, check out my latest FF purse, which I ordered from a nifty place called Society 6 yesterday...
[img]http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/box_002/post_12/336450_4279861-bagtote18_b.jpg[/img]
Love its 'stained glass'/Mondrian design (even if it's all I can do to not constantly have [b][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUJIRujygvY]this[/url][/b] playing in my head...you're welcome ;P) and how it acknowledges Doom, Galactus, Namor, and even Mole Man alongside the Core Four.