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I'm reading through Green Lantern: Rebirth through Brightest Day, for the first time.. I thought Absolute Rebirth was great, but Absolute Sinestro Corps War just blew my mind. What a great action-packed story with solid art throughout. Other than the occasional title here and there, I haven't read too much of DC, but this story had me transfixed. I can't wait to read Blackest Night and finish it all off with the Brightest Day Omnibus.
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Based on the two volumes out thus far, does it look like the Invisible Deluxe volumes will include any/all supplemental material from the Omnibus? What supplemental material does the Omnibus have?
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[QUOTE=GenericUserName12;473535]I'm reading through Green Lantern: Rebirth through Brightest Day, for the first time.. I thought Absolute Rebirth was great, but Absolute Sinestro Corps War just blew my mind. What a great action-packed story with solid art throughout. Other than the occasional title here and there, I haven't read too much of DC, but this story had me transfixed. I can't wait to read Blackest Night and finish it all off with the Brightest Day Omnibus.[/QUOTE]
The brightest day omni has very little to do with the GL run. Blackest Night flows into War of the Green Lanterns.
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Can anyone tell me which is the story that expands the Green Lanterns into all the other colors?
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[QUOTE=ohmshalone;474139]Can anyone tell me which is the story that expands the Green Lanterns into all the other colors?[/QUOTE]
For the Orange Corps (Avarice) you'd want to read the Agent Orange story. For Red, the Rage of the Red Lanterns story and probably secret origins. The rest, if I recall correctly, are introduced over multiple arcs. Most tend to be hinted at at first with more and more details being revealed over the long run.
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I know it's thread about HC editions but don't know where to share it, and I'm super pumped! My favourite and best IMHO Batman story will be published again as tpb.
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Dark-Night-City/dp/1401251277/ref=pd_sim_b_62?ie=UTF8&refRID=1WKK36GQP841W4ZDCKQC[/url]
I read it first time when I was 10, it was published in Poland as 68 page tpb and was scared shitless. And wanted more.
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[QUOTE=momaw;474156]For the Orange Corps (Avarice) you'd want to read the Agent Orange story. For Red, the Rage of the Red Lanterns story and probably secret origins. The rest, if I recall correctly, are introduced over multiple arcs. Most tend to be hinted at at first with more and more details being revealed over the long run.[/QUOTE]
Awright, thanks.
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[QUOTE=Balakin;472198]It's my most anticipated book too and it was finally dispatched 2 days ago. Hope mine will arrive in mint condition. Who was your seller?[/QUOTE]
Books_Any :eek:
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[QUOTE=Scorpio;474750]Books_Any :eek:[/QUOTE]
Ordered from the only once, Sandman omni v1, it was 98% fine but no thanks to the packaging (it was a bit better than amazon's). Still, they are the cheapest option for international buyers.
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[QUOTE=lvizzz;474357]I know it's thread about HC editions but don't know where to share it, and I'm super pumped! My favourite and best IMHO Batman story will be published again as tpb.
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Dark-Night-City/dp/1401251277/ref=pd_sim_b_62?ie=UTF8&refRID=1WKK36GQP841W4ZDCKQC[/url]
I read it first time when I was 10, it was published in Poland as 68 page tpb and was scared shitless. And wanted more.[/QUOTE]
Great story indeed. I've got that 100 page spectacular that DC did a few years ago. Lots of fun.
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[QUOTE=lvizzz;474357]I know it's thread about HC editions but don't know where to share it, and I'm super pumped! My favourite and best IMHO Batman story will be published again as tpb.
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Dark-Night-City/dp/1401251277/ref=pd_sim_b_62?ie=UTF8&refRID=1WKK36GQP841W4ZDCKQC[/url]
I read it first time when I was 10, it was published in Poland as 68 page tpb and was scared shitless. And wanted more.[/QUOTE]
Never heard of it, but it's Milligan so sure buy for me now. Love me some good early Milligan
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I'll probably grab that too since it features The Riddler.
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[QUOTE=MartinNL;475017]Great story indeed. I've got that 100 page spectacular that DC did a few years ago. Lots of fun.[/QUOTE]
Do you know more stories like this one?
[QUOTE=victorxd1999;475206]Never heard of it, but it's Milligan so sure buy for me now. Love me some good early Milligan[/QUOTE]
You won't be disappointed, it's very creepy, dark and horror-style Batman story. Don't want to spoil too much, but think Gotham as living breathing creature talking to Batman...Riddler is obsessed with this old ritual, trying to get real power, never seen Riddler like that. And art is great too, dark, with great facial expressions - Dwyer is a guy. Can't wait and it's bloody tpb, what a shame.
Now when I think about it, I don't think I've experienced the whole story. Description on Amazon says it collects BATMAN #452-454 and DETECTIVE COMICS #629-633 but I remember only Dwyer's art, so propably Batman 452-454. If the rest is Jim Aparo's work, I don't really care, hated his style when I was a kid, his Batman was so artificial for me, like a statue, without dynamic. Loved Norm Breyfogle - Last Arkham was great.
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[QUOTE=lvizzz;475320]Do you know more stories like this one?
You won't be disappointed, it's very creepy, dark and horror-style Batman story. Don't want to spoil too much, but think Gotham as living breathing creature talking to Batman...Riddler is obsessed with this old ritual, trying to get real power, never seen Riddler like that. And art is great too, dark, with great facial expressions - Dwyer is a guy. Can't wait and it's bloody tpb, what a shame.
Now when I think about it, I don't think I've experienced the whole story. Description on Amazon says it collects BATMAN #452-454 and DETECTIVE COMICS #629-633 but I remember only Dwyer's art, so propably Batman 452-454. If the rest is Jim Aparo's work, I don't really care, hated his style when I was a kid, his Batman was so artificial for me, like a statue, without dynamic. Loved Norm Breyfogle - Last Arkham was great.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I love those types of stories and Milligan rocks that style. Milligan did some awesome, very underrated books for Vertigo back in its early years. Shade The Changing Man, Enigma, Human Target etc. Those were great but often overlooked. Too bad most of them aren't even properly collected at all, let alone in HC. Enigma, a story that some even say surpasses classics like Watchmen, only has a oop trade at the moment (though a reprint is coming in december) and Shade, one of the best long running titles of its time, doesn't even have its whole run collected in trade at all
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[QUOTE=ricardoramos;467346]I wish they would make a Omnibus volume 2 + a Animal man by Lemire omnibus![/QUOTE]
V2 I dont think they would do, But the lemire omni is a possibility imo
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It's not about hardcovers but i thought this Dc quiz from IGN was pretty fun
[url]http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2014/09/03/take-our-dc-quiz[/url]
only had 1 wrong and that's because I didn't know there was a difference between rage and anger
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I missed all the GL-related questions except dead dad, Red Lantern and John Stewart (last two were total guesses), as I've read very little. Also got the JLA question wrong, because I swear I read something in a book about them being a reaction to the Avengers, but that still wouldn't make my answer correct.
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Yesterday I got my Brightest Day Omnibus and I have to say I'm pretty happy with its binding. Along with the Sandman Omnis, this is definitely one of the best US-Produced-Donnelley-Bindings. It doesn't exactly lay flat, but the book stays open by itself from its first pages. And the paper is great as usual, specially when compared to the crap Marvel uses now.
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[QUOTE=victorxd1999;475857]It's not about hardcovers but i thought this Dc quiz from IGN was pretty fun
[url]http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2014/09/03/take-our-dc-quiz[/url]
only had 1 wrong and that's because I didn't know there was a difference between rage and anger[/QUOTE]
flawless :p
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[QUOTE=victorxd1999;475857]It's not about hardcovers but i thought this Dc quiz from IGN was pretty fun
[url]http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2014/09/03/take-our-dc-quiz[/url]
only had 1 wrong and that's because I didn't know there was a difference between rage and anger[/QUOTE]
Oops I had 5 wrong. Oh well, still a pass I'd say with 67% correct :)
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Is the binding on the Sandman Omnis super tight?
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[QUOTE=doolittle;476743]Is the binding on the Sandman Omnis super tight?[/QUOTE]
On the contrary, they are probably the best bindings produced on US soil. And the first one, in my opinion, is better than the second volume.
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[QUOTE=victorxd1999;475716]Yeah I love those types of stories and Milligan rocks that style. Milligan did some awesome, very underrated books for Vertigo back in its early years. Shade The Changing Man, Enigma, Human Target etc. Those were great but often overlooked. Too bad most of them aren't even properly collected at all, let alone in HC. Enigma, a story that some even say surpasses classics like Watchmen, only has a oop trade at the moment (though a reprint is coming in december) and Shade, one of the best long running titles of its time, doesn't even have its whole run collected in trade at all[/QUOTE]
There are people that say Enigma surpasses Watchmen? Enigma is really good but it seems impossible that anyone really holds that opinion. Just a product of Watchmen being the be all end all of comparisons for great graphic novels I suppose.
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[QUOTE=JohnHorus;476836]On the contrary, they are probably the best bindings produced on US soil. And the first one, in my opinion, is better than the second volume.[/QUOTE]
Thank you! And there goes $90. :D
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[QUOTE=JohnHorus;475965]Yesterday I got my Brightest Day Omnibus and I have to say I'm pretty happy with its binding. Along with the Sandman Omnis, this is definitely one of the best US-Produced-Donnelley-Bindings. It doesn't exactly lay flat, but the book stays open by itself from its first pages. And the paper is great as usual, specially when compared to the crap Marvel uses now.[/QUOTE]
Wow. I guess I ask about the Sandman Omnis three posts after you comment on their quality. Maybe I should pay more attention. :-/
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[QUOTE=victorxd1999;475716]Yeah I love those types of stories and Milligan rocks that style. Milligan did some awesome, very underrated books for Vertigo back in its early years. Shade The Changing Man, Enigma, Human Target etc. Those were great but often overlooked. Too bad most of them aren't even properly collected at all, let alone in HC. Enigma, a story that some even say surpasses classics like Watchmen, only has a oop trade at the moment (though a reprint is coming in december) and Shade, one of the best long running titles of its time, doesn't even have its whole run collected in trade at all[/QUOTE]
Speaking of shade the changing man, I really enjoyed what I read of the character in the first volume (or two?) of Justice League Dark before he died? Would like to see an ongoing of him with that art.
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[QUOTE=doolittle;477127]Wow. I guess I ask about the Sandman Omnis three posts after you comment on their quality. Maybe I should pay more attention. :-/[/QUOTE]
No problem! Just let me add that those Sandman Omnis are really gorgeous books. Faux-leather covers, a gorgeous spine, high-quality paper and the best binding you can find in a DC Omnibus printed in the USA.
It was a real disappointment that the same binding wasn't used in The Planetary Omnibus, which has the same tight binding as House of Secrets, Morrison's Animal Man and some other recent Omnibus. Which, by the way, is not as tight as the Hawkman, the New Teen Titans Vol. 1 and some other omnis from way back.
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[QUOTE=johnsme;476938]There are people that say Enigma surpasses Watchmen? Enigma is really good but it seems impossible that anyone really holds that opinion. Just a product of Watchmen being the be all end all of comparisons for great graphic novels I suppose.[/QUOTE]
Not my words, but yeah, some people think that. I think it's inspired mostly on a quote from Morrison and this article
[url]http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/12/09/unsung-masterpieces-milligan-fegredos-enigma/[/url]
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[QUOTE=ohmshalone;474506]Awright, thanks.[/QUOTE]
I'm not exactly sure that was the answer you were after. "expands the Green Lanterns into all the other colors", you mean introducing other corps? Then you want Johns' Green Lantern #1-42 (and maybe Green Lantern Corps that ran at the same time).
[QUOTE=lvizzz;475320]Now when I think about it, I don't think I've experienced the whole story. Description on Amazon says it collects BATMAN #452-454 and DETECTIVE COMICS #629-633 but I remember only Dwyer's art, so propably Batman 452-454. If the rest is Jim Aparo's work, I don't really care, hated his style when I was a kid, his Batman was so artificial for me, like a statue, without dynamic.[/QUOTE]
Aparo did DC #629-632, #633 was by Tom Mandrake, IIRC. Those issues aren't more of Dark Knight, Dark City, btw, they're stories that Milligan wrote six months later or so. If you were buying Batman in Poland in the 90s, you read them all: Hungry Grass, the one with two-headed siamese twin dude, Golem of Gotham and Identity Crisis.
That's actually why this trade is annoying me, because while I realize Dark Knight Dark City is the main reason for its existence, if they're going to add other Milligan stories to pad it, they might as well put them all in: The Bomb, The Idiot Root, and Library of Souls (and maybe that Catwoman one-shot he also did at the time). And voila, complete Batman by Milligan from that period. Even when DC is doing what I really want (like collecting post-Crisis, pre-Knightfall Batman), they're still doing it in a way that makes me not want to buy it. Batman: The New Adventures is another example.
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[QUOTE=JohnHorus;476836]On the contrary, they are probably the best bindings produced on US soil. And the first one, in my opinion, is better than the second volume.[/QUOTE]
I've heard the second volume is horrible. Is that incorrect?
I have to chuckle at your "best bindings produced on US soil".
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[QUOTE=victorxd1999;477599]Not my words, but yeah, some people think that. I think it's inspired mostly on a quote from Morrison and this article
[url]http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/12/09/unsung-masterpieces-milligan-fegredos-enigma/[/url][/QUOTE]
As much as I love Morrison it seems like he has some grudge against Watchmen and everything Moore has written. I get his point in Supergods, but still, it seems like something he wrote because they don't like each other with Alan Moore.
[QUOTE=momaw;477934]I've heard the second volume is horrible. Is that incorrect?.[/QUOTE]
Not horrible at all but not as good as volume one, which upset me a bit, because I payed too much money for that book to be subpar to the first volume. Still, gorgeous books, no regret about purchasing them.
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[QUOTE=Balakin;477955]Not horrible at all but not as good as volume one, which upset me a bit, because I payed too much money for that book to be subpar to the first volume. Still, gorgeous books, no regret about purchasing them.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, the way some described it sounded like it was some of the worst binding around. I've got the Absolutes so I never looked into the omni's myself.
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[QUOTE=Pete Wisdom;477878]I'm not exactly sure that was the answer you were after. "expands the Green Lanterns into all the other colors", you mean introducing other corps? Then you want Johns' Green Lantern #1-42 (and maybe Green Lantern Corps that ran at the same time).
Aparo did DC #629-632, #633 was by Tom Mandrake, IIRC. Those issues aren't more of Dark Knight, Dark City, btw, they're stories that Milligan wrote six months later or so. If you were buying Batman in Poland in the 90s, you read them all: Hungry Grass, the one with two-headed siamese twin dude, Golem of Gotham and Identity Crisis.
That's actually why this trade is annoying me, because while I realize Dark Knight Dark City is the main reason for its existence, if they're going to add other Milligan stories to pad it, they might as well put them all in: The Bomb, The Idiot Root, and Library of Souls (and maybe that Catwoman one-shot he also did at the time). And voila, complete Batman by Milligan from that period. Even when DC is doing what I really want (like collecting post-Crisis, pre-Knightfall Batman), they're still doing it in a way that makes me not want to buy it. Batman: The New Adventures is another example.[/QUOTE]
Are you from Poland?
I remember Hungry Grass - very weird story - Golem of Gotham and Identity Crysis, don't remember siamese twin story. Publisher was TM-Semic, they had only one Batman comic to cover all stories from US plus some specials - Batman:Venom or book with Jean-Paul Valley's backstory, those were awesome, would like to buy them in english if they're in HC - and it was impossible to show polish reader everything what's been published across the pond. Still, they've done pretty good job with introducing titles from West, but dominated market in first half of 90's: all those trades from DC/Marvel were published by them, paper was bad, biding was a joke, but they were pretty much first.
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Yeah, I'm from Poland, and those weren't trades but double-sized floppies, so it's not like they were going to be sewn.
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[QUOTE=Pete Wisdom;478288]Yeah, I'm from Poland, and those weren't trades but double-sized floppies, so it's not like they were going to be sewn.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, those were floppies, was missing this word.
Do you remember Judgment on Gotham, how it was released? Big disaster for TM-Semic, nobody wanted to buy it, market wasn't ready even that paper was pretty good but glue...God, terrible, terrible published comic, pages were flying around after first reading.
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[QUOTE=victorxd1999;475716]Yeah I love those types of stories and Milligan rocks that style. Milligan did some awesome, very underrated books for Vertigo back in its early years. Shade The Changing Man, Enigma, Human Target etc. Those were great but often overlooked. Too bad most of them aren't even properly collected at all, let alone in HC. Enigma, a story that some even say surpasses classics like Watchmen, only has a oop trade at the moment (though a reprint is coming in december) and Shade, one of the best long running titles of its time, doesn't even have its whole run collected in trade at all[/QUOTE]
I always found Milligan hit or miss, but I loved his Hellblazer (except for the shitty ending) and his JL Dark. That said, I know a lot of folks dig him and DC should collect Shade in OHC or omnibus.
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[QUOTE=Pete Wisdom;477878]I'm not exactly sure that was the answer you were after. "expands the Green Lanterns into all the other colors", you mean introducing other corps? Then you want Johns' Green Lantern #1-42 (and maybe Green Lantern Corps that ran at the same time).[/QUOTE]
I believe you'd be correct that he would want Green Lantern Corps as well.
Johns' Green Lantern run introduced the Red, Orange, Blue, Black and White Lantern Corps, the Indigo Tribe, and made the Star Sapphires an actual corps as well, being "violet." But Green Lantern Corps was the series that had an arc with the Star Sapphires in issues 27-32 as a tie in to Blackest Night, other then that, the Yellow Lanterns/Sinestro Corps Has been around for a long time.
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[QUOTE=TomSlick;478469]I always found Milligan hit or miss, but I loved his Hellblazer (except for the shitty ending) and his JL Dark. That said, I know a lot of folks dig him and DC should collect Shade in OHC or omnibus.[/QUOTE]
His later work is noticeable weaker. Works like X-Statix, Shade, Enigma, his work with Brendan McCarthy etc. That's all A-class work. He was, and will probably always stay, a writer with a small audience though.
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[QUOTE=victorxd1999;478766]His later work is noticeable weaker. Works like X-Statix, Shade, Enigma, his work with Brendan McCarthy etc. That's all A-class work. He was, and will probably always stay, a writer with a small audience though.[/QUOTE]
And the few of us who loyally read his books have to suffer some s****y stuff.
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[QUOTE=victorxd1999;478766]His later work is noticeable weaker. Works like X-Statix, Shade, Enigma, his work with Brendan McCarthy etc. That's all A-class work. He was, and will probably always stay, a writer with a small audience though.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, forgot: I loved X-Statix.