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  1. Shiva is apparently a benchmark for measuring the...

    Shiva is apparently a benchmark for measuring the capabilities of your Bat-Character. Crysis used to be a benchmark for computers, but for Bat-Heroes you test them on Shiva. :p
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    If there's nothing to indicate that she isn't,...

    If there's nothing to indicate that she isn't, then it remains a possibility.
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    Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Either she's...

    Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Either she's holidaying in limbo, or she's signed-up for Team-Evil because there were no spots left in the Hero-Team.
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    The case with the League of Batgirls/boys in...

    The case with the League of Batgirls/boys in Bombshells from what I recall is along similar lines, but they are all baseball players, and no single Batgirl hero exists (no legacy case). But it's...
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    If there's a whole bunch of them running around...

    If there's a whole bunch of them running around at once then by definition they are less unique though. But again, context should still matter. :cool:
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    I didn't know she was bisexual. Actually, I...

    I didn't know she was bisexual. Actually, I don't recall her sexuality ever being mentioned in the Batwoman solo series (which is where I know her from).
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    102325 Well, it certainly weakens the...

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    Well, it certainly weakens the significance of the mantle, that I agree with. And in turn that likely weakens the significance of any character holding that position - after all if there...
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    Apart from the two Spider-Men, are there really...

    Apart from the two Spider-Men, are there really many other examples of duplicates working? I suppose there was the league of Batgirls and Batboys in 'DC Bombshells', but that's the only one that...
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    This is why I'm wondering if Kate might be on...

    This is why I'm wondering if Kate might be on team-evil in Future State, they've made her a villain in an Elseworlds before, and it seems Jason and Damian are possibly already there. It also...
  10. Doesn't feel like they have this problem with the...

    Doesn't feel like they have this problem with the Batgirls, or at least as obviously so.
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    Very well thought out and considered points,...

    Very well thought out and considered points, Tzigone.

    Still, it always sucks for fans to lose a favorite character, regardless of the business reasons.



    Well, she's Jewish and Bruce's...
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    Oh well, just Kate and Harper MIA then. But even...

    Oh well, just Kate and Harper MIA then. But even Harper has the Punchline book. Limbo-land for Kate perhaps! :p



    Considering the setup and fallout of that storyline involved Kate getting...
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    Still not accounted for in Future State, and with...

    Still not accounted for in Future State, and with no word yet on her appearing anywhere else as of yet.

    She may still appear in #14 of Batman/Superman (she's been in the last 2 issues), but that...
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    Lol, Batwoman already did the vampire thing (to...

    Lol, Batwoman already did the vampire thing (to disastrous effects, but it was also an alternate future and non-cannon).

    Babs = probably the prisoner the Batgirls rescue
    Damian = possibly one of...
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    So are we close to having almost everyone...

    So are we close to having almost everyone accounted for in this Future State series now? :p

    Any guesses as to the Magistrate, Peacekeeper 01, and Peacekeeper 03?
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    Duke was recently confirmed to be in Future...

    Duke was recently confirmed to be in Future State. Harper is in the Punchline series.
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    So, is Kate on the fast train to Limbo or what? ...

    So, is Kate on the fast train to Limbo or what? Because it seems like just about every other Bat-person, plus some new characters from Joker War, are accounted for in Future Sate except her. :p
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    I'm going to guess the person that the Batgirls...

    I'm going to guess the person that the Batgirls rescue could be Babs, since it sounds like they've been doing some hacking.

    So Duke and Helena are both now accounted for. Rumors about Damian,...
  19. But it is a demotion. Bruce's apprentices were...

    But it is a demotion. Bruce's apprentices were his students, then they graduated and became capable of handling most (street level) threats on their own. Even more so with Nightwing since he became...
  20. Which reminds me, one of the problems with it was...

    Which reminds me, one of the problems with it was the OP element, resulting in too many of the stories having the entire city being in danger. It was still fun, but too often the team as a whole...
  21. No one said that these characters can't have both...

    No one said that these characters can't have both a solo and a team book. What was said is that a team book not including the usual suspects doesn't endanger the usual suspects. Of course the...
  22. These are the characters included in most of the...

    These are the characters included in most of the animations and videogames - they aren't in danger of losing their status quo as Bat-Family to the newer characters if the newer ones get added to a...
  23. Yes, so using the characters that lack a solo in...

    Yes, so using the characters that lack a solo in a team is a good idea. These characters - they do have a fanbase, but if they never get used their fanbase can't exactly grow.

    Them being in a...
  24. No one suggested not using Bat-Family. Signal,...

    No one suggested not using Bat-Family. Signal, Orphan, Spoiler, Azrael, Batwing, Batwoman, Blue Bird etc are all Bat-Family.




    I haven't read it, any particular reason it was bad?
  25. True, the line-up for the Gotham Knights was...

    True, the line-up for the Gotham Knights was initially made-up of (except Batman of course) characters that lacked their own series. Red Robin, Spoiler, Orphan, and Batwoman all lacked a solo when...
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