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  1. Aside from everything Drunkard Kid said, I will...

    Aside from everything Drunkard Kid said, I will point out "owned" is a strong word for Taskmaster's performance against them. Tasky had the upper hand, but neither Widow or the Red Guardian were...
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    Black has actually gone into Doomsday's head and...

    Black has actually gone into Doomsday's head and reprogrammed it at a point where the Martian Manhunter couldn't even sense a true mind. Given J'onn has temporarily made the Joker sane with great...
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    Yeah, I can dig that. The building feat still...

    Yeah, I can dig that. The building feat still feels weird and out of nowhere there. It is done without fanfare pretty casually, and before those demonstrations started happening.
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    I'm talking just within this show though. He's...

    I'm talking just within this show though. He's fought a lot of apparently human TVA agents in hand to hand for fairly extended periods.
  5. God Mode is a poor choice of words for the...

    God Mode is a poor choice of words for the daughters of Odin and Zeus.
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    Yeah, I dunno. All the hand to hand combat just...

    Yeah, I dunno. All the hand to hand combat just feels really weird if he's had that kind of power the whole time. I know PIS is a thing, and super speed gets irgnored super often... It just feels...
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    Anyone else notice how Prime Loki just stops a...

    Anyone else notice how Prime Loki just stops a building from falling in him with something telekinesis and then puts it back up? I got this serious what you could do that the whole time vibes. Makes...
  8. It does feel like a pretty notable strength feat...

    It does feel like a pretty notable strength feat though, especially as Mark pulls it off and he's chump change to his dad.
  9. Sharp's assessment on the speed is fair. Nolan is...

    Sharp's assessment on the speed is fair. Nolan is still faster than DD by that, though. He's also stronger and more durable and can fly. So.

    Checking out the 30 second mark here. Nolan hits Mark...
  10. Actually, Doomsday scored a hit on Flash, which...

    Actually, Doomsday scored a hit on Flash, which isn't nothing.
  11. Don't think he needs it? He's at least as fast as...

    Don't think he needs it? He's at least as fast as Doomsday from what I can tell and I reckon he's probably tougher than this version. The collateral damage of his blows seems significantly stronger...
  12. Well you said "besides his vastly superior...

    Well you said "besides his vastly superior speed." That implies you're looking at the fight without it.
  13. Yes, but without the speed edge I imagine he'd...

    Yes, but without the speed edge I imagine he'd probably get overwhelmed first... Assuming these Daxamites are anywhere near the level of modern Clark. That's a lot of power to drain.
  14. The thing is numbers does nothing to address the...

    The thing is numbers does nothing to address the speed disparity. Plus Norrin can just whip up lead.

    If this were a slug fest he'd probably get overwhelmed but he has no reason not turn it into a...
  15. The closest thing to a consensus there was that...

    The closest thing to a consensus there was that Superman mucks about on a lunar scale-- moving them, or destroying them by turning his whole body into a missile with built up momentum. From what I...
  16. Superman never destroyed a moon with his punches....

    Superman never destroyed a moon with his punches. He took out a couple by ramming into them at near light speeds, with various sizes of moons and damages to himself. And what planet busting attacks...
  17. One of the post Flash point Darkseids could also...

    One of the post Flash point Darkseids could also power drain gods, which could come into play. I think he drained Zeus? So Thor would need to take him out quick.
  18. I'll point out that if you're trying to argue BB...

    I'll point out that if you're trying to argue BB and Thragg weren't just matching stats against each other, Thragg has a really significant advantage: flight. Which he seems to be utilizing quite...
  19. I was also cool with the general Elevation of the...

    I was also cool with the general Elevation of the New Gods back into their Kirby "Superman looks rather quaint, doesn't he" status.
  20. I mean in all fairness his losses are largely...

    I mean in all fairness his losses are largely isolated to Clark going all out, heroes packing the power of multiple heroes, or while he's depowered. And he's got some high end showings too. Sans PIS,...
  21. I don't think I've ever seen Superman blitz post...

    I don't think I've ever seen Superman blitz post crisis Darkseid. Usually he just slugs it out with Darkseid or Orion. There's an animated version of a fight where Superman does a really insane...
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    In that scenario, Thor wins. The tree thing gets...

    In that scenario, Thor wins. The tree thing gets reversed if Cap is killed.
  23. Well, nothing, I imagine. They are almost...

    Well, nothing, I imagine. They are almost certainly going to require some plot device McGuffin to take him down. Probably something involving Nth metal, if recent history is anything to go by.
  24. Well, yes, he is. Had a whole monologue about it....

    Well, yes, he is. Had a whole monologue about it. Also, it is a new version of the character with one appearance. He's done one thing and nothing contradicts it, so....
  25. The blitz I listed was for n52 Superman vs Orion,...

    The blitz I listed was for n52 Superman vs Orion, not Darkseid. Though n52 Superman has also proven pretty weak sauce next to Darkseid. The Quintessence is basically the DC council of Skyfathers. The...
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