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  1. Thread: Dark Phoenix

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    The bigger issue is the guy in charge telling the...

    The bigger issue is the guy in charge telling the story making those narrative decisions this film was screwed from the word go.
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    I'm sorry a Trilogy with the Marketing of the...

    I'm sorry a Trilogy with the Marketing of the LOTRs IMO couldn't save this story because the core problem was the guy telling it Simon Kinberg.
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    Obscure? Jean has been the at the center of 2...

    Obscure? Jean has been the at the center of 2 films and a decent size role in 3 films and in the aether in 2 due to Wolverine not being over her death. Beast had a decent role in 5 films,...
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    She should had died saving the President after...

    She should had died saving the President after having a turn of faith in DOFP thus saving Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix from needlessly having her shoehorned in.
  5. I prefer both animated Suicide Squad films over...

    I prefer both animated Suicide Squad films over the live action film doesn't make David Ayer a bad filmmaker.
  6. Superman has been done many times faithful on...

    Superman has been done many times faithful on screen that's kind of my point he even had his "billion" dollar movie with Superman 1978 which made 300 million worldwide and if adjusted for inflation...
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    Even with as bad as it was Fan4stick was more...

    Even with as bad as it was Fan4stick was more Cronenberg than Apocalypse.
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    I mean they could take characters like Storm and...

    I mean they could take characters like Storm and Cyclops who got little development well none really but were there and use them as the main command role over Xavier or Wolverine who could have...
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    I still think this film and Phantom Menace had...

    I still think this film and Phantom Menace had the two most insane reactions to when released in my life time both were everywhere I still have a set of coins my old man bought me one with Keaton's...
  10. Captain Marvel and Aquaman don't have definitive...

    Captain Marvel and Aquaman don't have definitive versions to most people they're like many Marvel and even DC characters where people will roll with whatever interpretation you give as along as it is...
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    I don't think they'll back burn the big...

    I don't think they'll back burn the big characters but I could see one who Fox put a lot of development into being sidelined in favor of surprising choices.
  12. No it's not debatable he's a good filmmaker. I...

    No it's not debatable he's a good filmmaker. I dislike the LOTRs films but Peter Jackson deserved the Oscar because he made a great film I just dislike it. Going back to Zack Snyder Dawn of the Dead...
  13. Why? WB wanted a kid friendly Batman film that...

    Why? WB wanted a kid friendly Batman film that could sell toys after Batman Returns and Schumacher delivered and from a production standpoint both films are good cinematographer, costumes, sets,...
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    Be careful trying to figure out the Fox X-Men...

    Be careful trying to figure out the Fox X-Men timelines will turn you into this

    https://images.app.goo.gl/pGXyNGAJo8ozrj6G8
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    I don't know Marvel Studios has had a lot of...

    I don't know Marvel Studios has had a lot of success with obscure characters. I mean would anyone had thought 10 years ago Rocket and Groot would be more well known than most X-Men characters by the...
  16. I don't want him to do a superhero film again but...

    I don't want him to do a superhero film again but the guy did exactly what WB wanted.

    I mean the guy made films like St. Elmo's Fire, Cousins, the Original Flatliners, A Time to Kill, 8mm, Lost...
  17. Thread: Dark Phoenix

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    Due to recasting film franchises usually make it...

    Due to recasting film franchises usually make it very clear when it's a sequel, prequel, reboot, or remake of a film and the fact they do make that clear instead of having a just roll with it...
  18. Being born in 1979 my first memories of comic...

    Being born in 1979 my first memories of comic book characters are of outside media.

    Watching live action shows and films like Reeve Superman films, West Batman, Reeves Adventures of Superman,...
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    No it doesn't that's like saying X2 and The Last...

    No it doesn't that's like saying X2 and The Last Stand are different timelines because Hank's Cameo in X2 doesn't line up with The Last Stand.
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    Hit by X-Men standard kind of says it all but not...

    Hit by X-Men standard kind of says it all but not a hit by other franchises standards DC turned Aquaman into a Billion dollar film Fox couldn't do that with one X-Men character.
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    Pretend? There are only two timelines mentioned...

    Pretend? There are only two timelines mentioned in the films. Fan theories and fiction doesn't count as actual Canon to the films.
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    First Class is my favorite Fox X-Men film but it...

    First Class is my favorite Fox X-Men film but it wasn't a big hit it made a profit that's it same for Apocalypse Dr. Strange made more than 100 million than Apocalypse in 2016 that says something. Oh...
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    They have hiccups Fox barely makes sense film to...

    They have hiccups Fox barely makes sense film to film since Last Stand.
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    Aquaman had Bumbebee, Mary Poppins Returns, and...

    Aquaman had Bumbebee, Mary Poppins Returns, and Spider-Man Into the Spiderverse and went to make over a Billion dollars.
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    The Headline is Gold "'Dark Phoenix’ Director...

    The Headline is Gold

    "'Dark Phoenix’ Director Simon Kinberg Attempts to Make Sense of the Nonsensical ‘X-Men’ Timeline"

    Yup that pretty much sums it up.
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