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About just below base carol level. Imo her interesting character trait is being able to abosrb different abilities.

Correction, storm with the boost from her prayers was able to "defeat" adversary, she 100% received a power up. She didn't have her god powers beforehand, especially not at the level of the adversary...

Except nova doesnt have the power to break magneto's shields???? It would indeed be a stalemate, but writers may take a different approach. Who knows what they will do.

No, if knull had said that any of those characters were more powerful than STRANGE, no one besides those characters fanboys/girls would believe, because strange has proven time and time again, he's...

Jean, with a phoenix raptor + absorbing galactus+ 4 surfer's psionic powers alledgedly was able to contend with galactus, but the comic never stated that she won.

And no, just because future jean...

I 100% agree with this. Just throwung lightning is kinda meh, I liked that in the fantastic four run she uses elements to create either h-bombs, she could very well be a cosmic player if hickman...

Lets get back on topic then, magneto and nova virtually stalemate, there's nothing they can do to each other with shields up. But apparently what we're missing is that the guardians are apparently...

Imo i think ewing can be trusted to write storm at the best of her abilities. I think it's one of the main reasons why immortal hulk was accepted so well, the immortal hulk story is so good.
Shaman...

It is quite silly has strange has proven to be beyond any other hero we know, from constantly fighting cosmic entities to actually borrowing their power, making such a statement is quite heavy for...

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yes, power that allowed him to fight the whole pantheon. He would probably currently solo magneto.

Yes on a regular day mags would beat the guardians, and quite casually at that. But nova is not those guardians. simple really.

I really didn't want to have this discussion. Hence, at the start of the thread, I stated that they stalemated and suggested that we should leave it at that.
Yes sentry with the void, magneto is not...

yes yana, that took the power away from a lower god, lower than mephisto couldnt handle all of them, as expected. Being the supreme ruler in limbo doesnt make you invincible unless proven. Like...

Not really, if you read annihilation you would know what nova's helmet is fabric that can harden, so it isnt metal and it would fall on you to prove that out of the thousand possible materials in the...

No one said they didn't, like?????? elder gods just like any other group of characters diverge in power, you could never compare these fodder elder gods to the likes of the vishanti, but by feats you...

Yes and the english language is also saying a synonym is underteminable. It is indeed you who's choosing to say that they're "infinite". When nothing really points at it. Absolute control over...

BY definition, incalculabe means you do not have the means to calculate such power levels, but a trip to the thesaurus is probably the best you could manage yh? Legion does not have infinite...

My logic literally doesnt hinge on who comes first, but on who has more power by feats, and those elder gods literally did nothing to suggest they were even mephisto level, maybe not even thanos...

Yes because galactus is indeed above odin and skyfathers, which are >>>>featless elder gods. and not only that odin knocked him down from space onto earth, jean with all the power she could gather...

odin broke galactus helmet and was going toe to toe against galactus in telepathy during that fraction run, lets not compare jean to characters entirely out of her reach ayt?

No. Nova was losing...

He erased lower featless elder gods, although impressive they have no feats to say they stand up to someone with such a high reputation as mephisto, most skyfather's like odin and zeus are...

Yes, she did that with the psionic energy of the phoenix and she couldn't even hurt him(she did knock him down tho).

The infinite part was most definitely hyperbole. And having a lot of powers does not mean you have infinite power. legion would get stomped by helllords and skyfathers. That's just a lie,they said to...

It still isnt applicable to 616 jean, even with pink form she didnt have the energy required.