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  1. Perhaps your frustration at a progressive loss...

    Perhaps your frustration at a progressive loss could be better dealt with. These last two pages have rendered months of your arguments fraudulent. Were they disingenuous or is this empty bitterness?
  2. So....with no information whatsoever to go...

    So....with no information whatsoever to go on....you're implying a Biden supporter did this?

    Maybe he was just an asshole that doesn't belong at a Bernie or Biden rally. Or, hell, anywhere other...
  3. What I'm saying is true regardless of this...

    What I'm saying is true regardless of this primary.

    You do NOT have facts on your side. You believed that you did. You apparently still, falsely, believe that. You like your candidate. You...
  4. Who cares if they are policing you? Why does that...

    Who cares if they are policing you? Why does that prevent you from doing the smart thing? Frankly, until progressives make themselves a force to be reckoned with - they get to put the dunce cap on...
  5. I'm so over this "ask nicely" excuse-making and...

    I'm so over this "ask nicely" excuse-making and whining from progressives. Nowhere do I hear people demanding you be polite.

    I hear people demanding you be real. You and thirty are notorious in...
  6. I spent quite a few years working with black kids...

    I spent quite a few years working with black kids and their families in Chicago. From that limited experience, I'd say black voters need to build trust and rapport with their leaders. Trust is...
  7. Let me suggest another course: get people to show...

    Let me suggest another course: get people to show the hell up at the ballot box.

    You gain power by demonstrating power. What you advocate here is mostly selective noise. You yell what you think...
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    You know....this is the first I've heard that...

    You know....this is the first I've heard that idea....I really like that.

    The vibe of this movie has me pretty excited. It feels grittier, grungier, less polished. That's how I like my Bats.
  9. Yeah, if I'm a Bernie supporter.....that right...

    Yeah, if I'm a Bernie supporter.....that right there is all I need to see to know she ain't endorsing him.
  10. Damn..... /thread

    Damn.....

    /thread
  11. I would say that sort of choice is more stark in...

    I would say that sort of choice is more stark in contrast no? I mean, I know there will be some that try to paint Biden as some evil person and Bernie as a Knight in Shining Armor, but the disparity...
  12. One of your brethren was doing it Tuesday night...

    One of your brethren was doing it Tuesday night right here in this thread. It was all over twitter.

    But you've made it known that you believe what you want and facts/truth are secondary to you. ...
  13. I'd rather we not shame anyone for their vote. ...

    I'd rather we not shame anyone for their vote. We can shake our head and be frustrated, but openly saying they aren't informed or smart enough to vote for the "right" person?

    I mean....the hell...
  14. That's an excellent message she has. We had the...

    That's an excellent message she has. We had the same thing happen in these threads. Frankly, the idea that black voters have to be shamed for their voting choices is racist.

    Which makes it...
  15. Reposting again: ...

    Reposting again: https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/embedded-video/mmvo80022085859

    I said two days ago I wondered how long until he flip flopped. Even I wouldn't have taken the under on 3 fucking days....
  16. It's almost too rich. A progressive arguing we...

    It's almost too rich. A progressive arguing we should "wait until something concrete" happens. Can't make it up.

    I want progressive policies, but do you know what needs to happen first? A...
  17. I'll hold Biden responsible for his failures,...

    I'll hold Biden responsible for his failures, should they happen, just as I did Clinton. I blamed a poor campaign, Jill Stein, Russia, and (mostly) her negatives with voters for her loss.

    But I'm...
  18. I wonder....do you hold Bernie to the same...

    I wonder....do you hold Bernie to the same standard given his failures as a candidate? The truth is, Bernie told us how he'd have to win: turnout. There was turnout in huge numbers yesterday. But...
  19. I strongly disagree. I can remember voting as a...

    I strongly disagree. I can remember voting as a college kid and now as an adult. I have to juggle WAY more shit to vote now than I did in my 20s. Now, folks who are retired? Sure, probably...
  20. I might blame Bernie and his coalition if their...

    I might blame Bernie and his coalition if their behavior becomes untoward. Just a week ago, when he thought he'd have the plurality and the popular vote, he made a claim of how things should happen....
  21. I'm willing to say it is. Super Tuesday had to...

    I'm willing to say it is. Super Tuesday had to go big for Bernie and he knew it. The fact that it didn't is a huge blow. Look at the March 10th and 17th slates.....he'll be lucky to pick up a...
  22. This made me laugh.

    This made me laugh.
  23. I agree, sorry...in retrospect it sounded like I...

    I agree, sorry...in retrospect it sounded like I was disagreeing with you when I was actually adding to your point!
  24. Black voters simply don't trust Bernie. Right or...

    Black voters simply don't trust Bernie. Right or wrong, that's how it is. Bernie's bet was always (he's said it himself) to turn out the young voters.

    Well....they didn't show up. Period. Not...
  25. Bernie is like the grandmaster of "Losing to Bad...

    Bernie is like the grandmaster of "Losing to Bad Candidates" in that case.....

    Let's be clear - and I hope thirty reads this too - Bernie is a non-viable candidate if he can't get black voter...
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