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  1. If we're talking PC Wonder Woman, not...

    If we're talking PC Wonder Woman, not Post-Crisis...I'm not familiar with PC Wonder Woman to comment and tend not to think of her when I'm considering 'Wonder Woman'. Valid point and my mistake...
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    Given Fisk has neither presentation nor...

    Given Fisk has neither presentation nor speed-feats outside of 'hit Daredevil' and 'managed to hit Spider-man on occasion' to allow him the speed you note, that's basically accounted for under PIS. ...
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    Generic nameless mercs are rather useless, here. ...

    Generic nameless mercs are rather useless, here. It just means Cass sneaks around a little more.
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    Okay, I'm going to assume this is Classic Fisk,...

    Okay, I'm going to assume this is Classic Fisk, because otherwise, what's the point?

    Breakdown time.

    1. Skill. Cass outclasses Fisk by a lot. Fisk is, at best, a B-tier fighter by skill. ...
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    ...this part makes it all worthwhile. ^_^

    ...this part makes it all worthwhile. ^_^
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    It's a valid point. It's not like these...

    It's a valid point.

    It's not like these massively potent beings have some special power preventing them from being power-jacked. We've seen Doom steal power from all manner of beings. Strange...
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    ...and people wonder why I've given up purchasing...

    ...and people wonder why I've given up purchasing comics.
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    Poll: Here we are. 102596 Was a little wrong...

    Here we are.

    102596

    Was a little wrong about the reasoning.
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    Poll: I think you can criticize the idea, sure. But...

    I think you can criticize the idea, sure. But best to be careful, just in case.
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    Poll: It basically boils down to 'Franklin wanted to be...

    It basically boils down to 'Franklin wanted to be a mutant to have a feeling of belonging or something along those lines, and subconsciously used his reality warping powers to make it so. When his...
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    *coughs*BlackmagicStrange*coughs* ^_^

    *coughs*BlackmagicStrange*coughs*

    ^_^
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    Poll: *squints* Is that current Dr. Strange or Classic...

    *squints* Is that current Dr. Strange or Classic Strange? Though Current Strange is...pretty up there as well.
  13. Even more specific, it's a term Rumbles use to...

    Even more specific, it's a term Rumbles use to designate someone who exceeds what comics present as peak human ranges without being 'enhanced'. It is generally used for speed, but realistically...
  14. By Rumbles standards, Karate Kid basically...

    By Rumbles standards, Karate Kid basically murders ME Lad and Saturn Girl, and should beat Wonder Woman to boot.

    Basically, Val's feats are utterly insane, even by the standards of massively...
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    Sticky: Covid is wrecking my schedule. I'm only just...

    Covid is wrecking my schedule. I'm only just finishing my wife's New Year's story first draft. -_- Which leaves an edit - with a fair bit to change and add, it has evolved as I wrote - a week...
  16. Fortunately, Rumbles has rules to deal with this...

    Fortunately, Rumbles has rules to deal with this situation.
  17. Based on actual abilities as presented, I guess...

    Based on actual abilities as presented, I guess it's possible she might take out Batman (if she's beating up Logan because she's enhanced and somewhat skilled, it's not a terrible stretch to feel...
  18. Setting aside the Danny losing to Logan...

    Setting aside the Danny losing to Logan silliness, at least in the defeat of Logan, we get some context. We know she's enhanced, a fair chunk past human. And we see that they're fighting hand to...
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    Sticky: Retro costumes from the movie!

    Retro costumes from the movie!
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    Then it's unimportant that Divine Power:...

    Then it's unimportant that Divine Power: Monochrome messes with colour and more about 'will it suppress her powers?'

    Anyway...I think this thread is more about 'who are the strongest people she...
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    I mean, that's fine. If it's suppressing powers,...

    I mean, that's fine. If it's suppressing powers, it's suppressing powers.

    But it still leaves Black, White, and Grey (granted, it may SUPPRESS those POWERS, but it is not removing them because it...
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    Leaves her with White, Black, and Grey.

    Leaves her with White, Black, and Grey.
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    Depending on how powerful she is, Power...

    Depending on how powerful she is, Power Nullification/Telekinesis/Force Fields would be all she needs. She'd be set to take out anyone who could be affected by Power Nullification, Telekinesis and...
  24. I don't believe her squirrels taking down...

    I don't believe her squirrels taking down Galactus makes any sense. Scans for context?

    Edit: Yes, this is me basically calling BS on that kind of thing, also including her context-less 'defeat'...
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    Sticky: Rather disgusted with CBC morning show today. ...

    Rather disgusted with CBC morning show today. One of their regular 'experts' spouted a load of biased, anti-expert crap riddled with misleading statements, and there was zero pushback.

    Ugh.
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