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    Joe is still comfortably ahead of Thing at least...

    Joe is still comfortably ahead of Thing at least right? I'm never quite sure where to put the guy other than "not as strong as other Hulks"
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    Fantastic Four vs. Joe Fixit Hulk

    Standard Arena. 616.

    No internal forcefields allowed for sake of discussion.
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    Oh, I don't disagree with the outcome of either...

    Oh, I don't disagree with the outcome of either assessment of Sauron's capabilities.

    Sauron was heavily armored and literally twice the height of the biggest guy Achilles has fought even without...
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    I would just like to point out that Sauron's...

    I would just like to point out that Sauron's blows were not /just/ knocking back dozens of men.

    They were creating visible flashes of light with small shockwave effects. People he /didn't hit/...
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    I would say Alita before he can become...

    I would say Alita before he can become intangible, if only just.
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    Welcome to Rumbles btw Nicklypuff! ^_^

    Welcome to Rumbles btw Nicklypuff! ^_^
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    Ah, I glossed on the environment. I suppose Luke...

    Ah, I glossed on the environment. I suppose Luke is considerably more agile. He may wear the guy down over a looong period of time. Blob is quite a threat in prolonged h2h. He should avoid that...
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    Feats for JC? Because Alita is a hypersonic...

    Feats for JC? Because Alita is a hypersonic powerhouse
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    Im pretty sure Blob takes this. Luke is juuust...

    Im pretty sure Blob takes this. Luke is juuust outside of his threshold for taking damage methinks.
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    How quickly can Ginyu fire off his body swap? I...

    How quickly can Ginyu fire off his body swap? I remember it being pretty quick.
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    Trigon is really hard to peg for Rumbles. ...

    Trigon is really hard to peg for Rumbles.

    Various versions of him have been team wreckers capable of ignoring Kryptonians. He once destroyed a planet light years away with his stare. His...
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    You see, this is what I was thinking.

    You see, this is what I was thinking.
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    I feel like Johnny using Ben as a shield for the...

    I feel like Johnny using Ben as a shield for the initial thunderclap may be possible? They will be standing right next to each other.

    Or could Ben rifle off a counter clap? Lol
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    Thing & Human Torch vs. Wonder Man

    Can Johnny and Ben defeat Simon?

    616 Arena blah blah

    No space toss
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    Yeah? Like I said, clearly I'm not up to date on...

    Yeah? Like I said, clearly I'm not up to date on the guy.
  16. That particular Batman had pretty ridiculous old...

    That particular Batman had pretty ridiculous old man strength iirc. Like shatter people's bones in single strikes, charge /through/ walls and one hand hoist full grown men like babies strength.
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    Mind control? Clearly It's been a while since...

    Mind control? Clearly It's been a while since I've read Carnage stuff lol.

    Anyways, I can't imagine Carnage can take repeated blows from a guy that actually damaged Thanos. Plus the ranged game.
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    Hmm good point. I guess i was just caught up on...

    Hmm good point. I guess i was just caught up on the fact she was scratch free despite it
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    Only watched a tiny bit, but a direct point blank...

    Only watched a tiny bit, but a direct point blank shell from an energy artillery cannon only briefly KOd Adora.
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    Tbf, im not sure either.

    Tbf, im not sure either.
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    Doesnt Alita blow through Ranma? Alita isn't...

    Doesnt Alita blow through Ranma? Alita isn't just bullet timer. She's blatantly super/hyper sonic. Her pre retcon body ran up a hundred kilometer tower into deep space in mere moments.
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    Before clicking this thread, I thought to myself...

    Before clicking this thread, I thought to myself "Well maybe there is a Blue Fairy I'm unaware of or some feats from Once I've forgotten" but nope! Specifically the Pinocchio one??

    This might be...
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    Oh I'm very happy hearing thoughts on equalized...

    Oh I'm very happy hearing thoughts on equalized and not =)
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    Quasar is fairly unremarkable but Nova has legit...

    Quasar is fairly unremarkable but Nova has legit super speed and reflexes as Prime
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    Frieza & Army vs. The Avengers

    Namek saga era Frieza and crew.

    Frieza (final form, 50% to start but can obviously power up) + Ginyu Force

    Versus

    Captain Marvel
    Hulk
    Sentry
    Nova Prime (Rich with Wordmind)
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