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  1. Even the view of them being a nuclear family is...

    Even the view of them being a nuclear family is one based on a weird rose tinted view of the past comics. They weren't a nuclear family at all, they were a found family and a pretty dysfunctional one...
  2. Yeah they did switch up the roster from time to...

    Yeah they did switch up the roster from time to time and sometimes it worked really well. Like She Hulk replacing Ben was great and the time Reed was missing so Sue became leader.
    Toxic nostalgia...
  3. Nostalgia may not apply to you personally, but it...

    Nostalgia may not apply to you personally, but it does to many FF writers and readers. Also as another poster said, the Future Foundation was the natural evolution of the team that solved that...
  4. The writers who are so beholden to the past that...

    The writers who are so beholden to the past that they forget that the FF are meant to be about new things are it's they're considered dated. Their core concept is timeless but the execution of it has...
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    Marvel 2 in One written by Zdarsky but with...

    Marvel 2 in One written by Zdarsky but with Johnny and Sue this time.
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    She was created by Zdarsky so he'd be the one to...

    She was created by Zdarsky so he'd be the one to bring her back if anyone.
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    I think Sue being the leader in that run solved a...

    I think Sue being the leader in that run solved a big issue with the character: she's usually reactive instead of proactive.

    Everything she does is a reaction and she rarely took initiative while...
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    Happy about Val's age being closer to what it...

    Happy about Val's age being closer to what it should be, but it also makes the whole Aboro thing even more uncomfortable to me.
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    A couple of changes and I can see the Waid origin...

    A couple of changes and I can see the Waid origin being translated to the MCU.
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    Spoiler free opinion of the anniversary issue: ...

    Spoiler free opinion of the anniversary issue:

    I don't like being too negative with art, but the art was ugly and distracting I hated it. The main story was basically all about Kang and the...
  11. I like when she does more precise things like...

    I like when she does more precise things like that. It's also when her powers get the most creative.
  12. Dark Ages is added to the list of times Sue (or a...

    Dark Ages is added to the list of times Sue (or a version of her) has used her powers to hold onto reality. It adds to my theory that Franklin's powers are a much more powerful offshoot of hers.
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  13. It's sad that all of Sue's best moments have been...

    It's sad that all of Sue's best moments have been outside of the main Fantastic Four book since the current run started.
  14. Poll: HERBIE is perfect for the comedy relief and...

    HERBIE is perfect for the comedy relief and stuff. Plus it's a cute robot.
  15. Poll: Them being the "first family is not necessary in...

    Them being the "first family is not necessary in the MCU and is more trouble than it's worth to try and force them to be. It would needlessly complicates the characters and the MCU timeline because...
  16. Poll: They're new heroes, no need to pointlessly...

    They're new heroes, no need to pointlessly complicate things. It's 4 people stealing a spacecraft and changing from the experience, it can happen at anytime. In fact, right now is the best time for...
  17. I was happy she survived and I hope Tom Taylor...

    I was happy she survived and I hope Tom Taylor has big role for her.
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    Thats what I'm thinking too. Also, ending on a...

    Thats what I'm thinking too. Also, ending on a big event is the way to go.
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    I'm just hoping this is Slott's last story on the...

    I'm just hoping this is Slott's last story on the FF.
  20. Poll: I think the conversation may be deviating from...

    I think the conversation may be deviating from the intended topic. Maybe make a separate thread? There's a lot to talk about Marvel's treatment of their female heroes.
  21. Poll: For Carol they wanted their "Wonder Woman"...

    For Carol they wanted their "Wonder Woman" equivalent - a lead female superhero. Carol was the best option for this at the time because most of their other female heroes had too much baggage, too...
  22. Poll: Most writers are male and writers would prefer to...

    Most writers are male and writers would prefer to make their mark on already popular characters because they're the ones they grew up with and those characters are usually male. You get tons of...
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    I definitely don't think it's important to the...

    I definitely don't think it's important to the characters themselves but outside of that I think it would influence how writers would go about the writing the team. That simple change in leadership...
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    I'm kind of banking on that friction tbh. It...

    I'm kind of banking on that friction tbh. It would not be an easy transition and Reed stepping on Sue's toes could provide for interesting drama for the pair that isn't the usual drama about secrets...
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    Maybe, but she would be in a better position for...

    Maybe, but she would be in a better position for that not to happen and for her not to be treated like wallpaper. Writers may still have him center everything but Sue as leader provides an...
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