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    I haven't read every appearance of Despero, but...

    I haven't read every appearance of Despero, but of the times I have, he's always presented as higher than MM.
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    Yes, but J'Onn is a much stronger telepath than...

    Yes, but J'Onn is a much stronger telepath than Jean. Beginning to manifest the Phoenix force means little without feats.

    Just to give you a frame of reference on J'Onns telepathic defense. In one...
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    I don't think it does. Despero turned J'Onn into...

    I don't think it does. Despero turned J'Onn into a literal drooling mess. And he did it casually.
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    I don't know, Despero is Xavier + level and Black...

    I don't know, Despero is Xavier + level and Black is monstrous telepathically.
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    But Darkseid doesn't have abstract level feats...

    But Darkseid doesn't have abstract level feats either.
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    It reminded me of the JLA Rock of Ages storyline.

    It reminded me of the JLA Rock of Ages storyline.
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    Just watched Justice League Dark; very good...

    Just watched Justice League Dark; very good movie.

    Trigon is above Darkseid so he wins.
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    You could even say he was shocked.

    You could even say he was shocked.
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    Happy birthday man!

    Happy birthday man!
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    Haven't other people used sonics on Venom?

    Haven't other people used sonics on Venom?
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    Isn't it though? Spiderman knows of it. It's not...

    Isn't it though? Spiderman knows of it. It's not the general population's knowledge, it's their arch enemies I believe.
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    Suffocate him climbing into his mouth. But Luffy...

    Suffocate him climbing into his mouth. But Luffy is so much faster that he won't even be able to touch him. However, I don't know if Luffy can even hurt Eel. Outside of BFR, Eel could just outlast...
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    I was mainly talking about how he was defeated....

    I was mainly talking about how he was defeated. Stretching Eel to kill him is almost like trying to drown a fish.
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    If he's still conscience he could just turn into...

    If he's still conscience he could just turn into a worm and um..worm his way back to the arena. If he's still moving then it's not a ten count.

    If Luffy can space toss, that's his easiest way to...
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    That was just horrible writing and a low showing....

    That was just horrible writing and a low showing. DD ripped Eel by stretching him by 5 feet max. Eel has stretched miles.



    He's actually taken hits from class 100's before and kept on trucking...
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    Or just plain old PIS.

    Or just plain old PIS.
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    I doubt it would matter as she's multiverse...

    I doubt it would matter as she's multiverse busting.
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    Perpetua would destroy Freiza...but she's not...

    Perpetua would destroy Freiza...but she's not from Earth.
  19. This is all speculation, not feats.

    This is all speculation, not feats.
  20. Can they effect a phased MM? I think Kyle's...

    Can they effect a phased MM? I think Kyle's autoshields can tank enough for him to phase as well.
  21. Is that a German shawarma?

    Is that a German shawarma?
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    It's Killer Croc, looking for his rock. :D ...

    It's Killer Croc, looking for his rock. :D

    It's also funny how Simon trys to use a rock as a finishing move when his fists can do much more damage.
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    That too....

    That too....
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    Technically he can't kill Lobo but he would beat...

    Technically he can't kill Lobo but he would beat him to bloody pulp.
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    The B.U.B project.

    The B.U.B project.
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