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    Mandarin has better reflexes and ways to...

    Mandarin has better reflexes and ways to one-shot. Easy win for him.
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    Pretty much agree with that: Luther knows Five,...

    Pretty much agree with that: Luther knows Five, knows how he fights and such. If this is an Arena match, hand to hand, he's going to take it. In the opening sequence for S2, he tanks some massive...
  3. I think that we're debating a gradiant. I agree...

    I think that we're debating a gradiant. I agree that anyone who can run at superspeed has superspeed reactions. I'm just saying that the level of reactions required to make extremely tightly...
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    I'd say Canary probably has the slight edge here....

    I'd say Canary probably has the slight edge here. Widow is generally shown as a step below CBPH in skill, speed and strength. She's close, but closer to Hawkeye/Ronin/Bucky level than Captain...
  5. Azura Gidorah, actually. Myth Ymir, if only...

    Azura

    Gidorah, actually.

    Myth Ymir, if only because he'd be basically too big to notice Godzilla.

    Comic Surtur, certainly.

    Movie Surtur - would depend on the Godzilla
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    I've mentioned that several times in the thread:...

    I've mentioned that several times in the thread: Fox Quicksilver is, to me, faster and much more skilled than Barry. Barry has tons of esoterics thanks to "speed force mumbo jumbo du jour." Don't...
  7. I agree, though only when talking about having...

    I agree, though only when talking about having enough time to plan the catch. I can catch a baseball moving 160kph (100ish Mph), but I can't do it if it's thrown from 10 feet in front of me. I need...
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    Yeah, all extremely fair points. With that in...

    Yeah, all extremely fair points. With that in mind, and Guy1's videos as always, I'd concede more fights to Ippy than I initially through. Matt will still take some thanks to speed, but even Matt's...
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    I'm good for money, and, while 3 is enticing, 1...

    I'm good for money, and, while 3 is enticing, 1 would be soooooo muuuuuuuch fuuuuuuun to stick on Kellyanne Conway or one of those lying apparatchiks. And to head anything off - this is not...
  10. I agree in general, though I will say that, just...

    I agree in general, though I will say that, just like for a regular person, someone with enhanced reaction speed and enhanced speed would need varying degrees of it to accomplish different things at...
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    Fair enough point. I guess I just remember so...

    Fair enough point. I guess I just remember so much more clearly where Ippy is shown not doing that then when he does. And I didn't like the movies enough to rewatch them, despite really enjoying...
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    They didn't fight Corvus.

    They didn't fight Corvus.
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    The issue with the mansion explosion stuff is...

    The issue with the mansion explosion stuff is that Quicksilver was clearly screwing around while he was doing it. In the moments he had to, while the world was still almost frozen, he would...
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    A second Happy Birthday to you Arby, just because...

    A second Happy Birthday to you Arby, just because you deserve it. Now go post something, damnit.
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    Something in that wheelhouse, maybe. Fox...

    Something in that wheelhouse, maybe. Fox Quickie's consistent speed stuff is still better, and he has no CIS at all. Barry adds some cool esoterics, of course, but he's not generally operating at...
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    I think that Vanya is just too fast and too...

    I think that Vanya is just too fast and too insanely dangerous. She's clearly a bullet-timer who can spit AoEs strong enough to KO everyone here in that time. She can just wipe out the entire...
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    Yup, that was his best "other" feat, and it's,...

    Yup, that was his best "other" feat, and it's, like I said, multiple orders of magnitude less than the explosion feat. It takes him a few seconds to run from the prison he's in to leave a guy in...
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    My last name gives me literally nothing, so it's...

    My last name gives me literally nothing, so it's all first name. And there... imma get pimp-slapped. :-)
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    Well, it means that literally none of Barry's...

    Well, it means that literally none of Barry's other feats count at all, because it's like 4 orders of magnitude faster than anything else he's ever done.

    Annnnnnd based on the comic extension...
  20. I didn't watch all of the last season, but it...

    I didn't watch all of the last season, but it seems as strong as ever. Normal human reaction bad guy standing there, Barry running in circles and getting hit with their attack, then not just...
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    I think that speed plus soak wins this for Matt,...

    I think that speed plus soak wins this for Matt, mileage may vary, as someone wise has repeated often around these parts. Ip has some excellent hitting feats, but Matt makes a habit of keeping...
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    The feat, as stated, was a massive outlier. ...

    The feat, as stated, was a massive outlier. Simply huge. I'm not just going to "count it."
  23. He has tons of feats of being really fast but...

    He has tons of feats of being really fast but nothing remotely like the nuke feat. It's not PIS, it's just a massive outlier.

    His CIS is real, though, as is the show's PIS.
  24. Clark's faster than Brainiac, who is clocked at...

    Clark's faster than Brainiac, who is clocked at lightspeed running by Lex, several seasons before Clark reaches his full power level. Barry has one speed feat on a similar level, but that feat is so...
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    Bart is onscreen considerably faster than Clark,...

    Bart is onscreen considerably faster than Clark, who is considerably faster than CW Barry (outside of the one ridiculous and completely out-of-whack with the rest of his everything), so Bart really...
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