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    Which is stupid; they should care whether the...

    Which is stupid; they should care whether the book is not just "fine" or selling well: they need to care if it's getting acclaim, being loved, whatever
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    So if you're saying Spencer is the reason for the...

    So if you're saying Spencer is the reason for the decompression, then why is Marvel not reigning him in and asking him to pack more content into these issues? Why are they just letting him get away...
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    This is NOT Spencer's style; this is padding,...

    This is NOT Spencer's style; this is padding, plain and simple. You can defend it, you can argue for it, but it's padding.

    Admittedly, I've only read a couple of Spencer's works before ASM, but...
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    Groundbreaking storytelling? A worms eye view of...

    Groundbreaking storytelling? A worms eye view of how being a superhero can both help and harm you? A slice of life comic about the responsibility of one man in a world that disdains him?

    Just...
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    Big corps have essentially brainwashed people to...

    Big corps have essentially brainwashed people to think about the content and not about the cost. And the problem with that thinking is that it, like you said, makes fans intensely loyal for no reason...
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    Amen. 10chars

    Amen.

    10chars
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    Then they honestly don't like Spider-Man, if I'm...

    Then they honestly don't like Spider-Man, if I'm being frank. They don't want the story as originally intended and just want some watered down version. They want a "kind of" Peter with "some"...
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    No, the preview for #56 disproves that.

    No, the preview for #56 disproves that.
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    Yes. Yes, he is. Commercially, no. But while we...

    Yes. Yes, he is. Commercially, no. But while we may enjoy certain takes, the creative element has taken a nosedive. Even Spencer has resorted to trying to "fix" past stories. When you spend the bulk...
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    It's been established that he prepared somehow...

    It's been established that he prepared somehow after #31, when Kindred visited him in his cell.
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    Exactly. That is excellent.

    Exactly. That is excellent.
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    I'm not saying these books were bad or didn't...

    I'm not saying these books were bad or didn't capture the spirit of the character: but public domain allows a writer total freedom to not have to worry about that, still tell their story, and be able...
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    How many of those are "canon"? None but a few....

    How many of those are "canon"? None but a few. Marvel can put out as much as they can, but the fact is that besides the 616 universe, none of them "count". That's not fair, especially when the other...
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    People you're only thinking of the immediate...

    People you're only thinking of the immediate creative impact. But commercially, creatively, in the long term, you'll find a lot of different approaches that work.

    But then again, you've never been...
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    But that's the problem: "their own take" has...

    But that's the problem: "their own take" has disrespected Lee, Ditko and Romita's for years...decades even. And Marvel has not only enabled it; they've mandated it. It's time to face facts and...
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    Bravo, well done, old friend. I agree completely.

    Bravo, well done, old friend. I agree completely.
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    I actually agree with all of this. Spider-Man is...

    I actually agree with all of this. Spider-Man is a broken character, and no matter who the writer is, someone's going to have to acknowledge that.

    I will say that the last time we had a, I would...
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    Why do you think Spider-Man needs to go in the...

    Why do you think Spider-Man needs to go in the public domain? No hate; I'm just curious.
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    I agree with you on JMS. His first half up to...

    I agree with you on JMS. His first half up to issue #508 was full of just solid Spider-Man stories. The only events he had was issue #50 ("Doomed Affairs") and #500 ("Happy Birthday"), and even those...
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    I guess for me, the last time I felt genuine...

    I guess for me, the last time I felt genuine excitement reading a Spider-Man book was the early issues of Spencer's run. I can give him credit for delivering solid stories of the character in the...
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    While I can appreciate that this story has good...

    While I can appreciate that this story has good moments, I'll echo others in saying that this ultimately amounted to very little. We're no closer to finding out the reasoning for all this except for...
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    BleedingCool has officially confirmed this series...

    BleedingCool has officially confirmed this series was cancelled.
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    Indeed, I agree with you both. But...I think this...

    Indeed, I agree with you both. But...I think this is seriously where I'm hanging up my hat. I'm just not as invested in superhero comics anymore, and, while I am sad to not see how this story ends, I...
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    So, I re-read the issue with the context in mind...

    So, I re-read the issue with the context in mind and perhaps I jumped the gun a bit in my criticism. I do like the horror vibe and the creepiness of the same party being made to be a hellish...
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    Quesada has a mandate against narration? And...

    Quesada has a mandate against narration?

    And yes; I agree that narration would have helped immensely, especially with this issue. If we got Peter's narration, I think that would have been much...
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