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Well one thing is for sure it's definately not Pre-retcon Beyonder levels. The Beyonders in this event are not on this level either. However if we go by the retconned versions then perhaps, atleast...

Sort of yes but it wasn't as apparent as in it was never never really spelled out or anything like that which is why most use that feat against Beyonder even though a slight hint existed in the story...

I'm not sure the retcon is a fair point considering that happened when shooter was basically gone by that time (the creator and possibly Beyonder being his avatar of sort's, you know god complex and...

Yeah, but people get this impression that he kicked his butt lol, it's much more believable that beyonder let his power's get taken away, even the 1990's retconned version of beyonder that appears in...

Yeah it seems to be more of a guess than anything and it might be wrong and not work, i mean i doubt it would have worked against the old beyonder (now called a child unit), since he pretty much...

Well it's abit tricky, pre-retcon beyonder was from the beyond realm, he was basically the god of the beyond realm, though if you mean current version then i have no idea but i would still assume...

Hmm well originally beyonder was capable (ovbiously) of any time travel he wished (we all know the child unit beyonder is a cherry picked retcon, or we should by now), we can only speculate until...

I sort of agree with you....to an extent. I mean i know weaknesses exist and someone mentioned somewhere (this thread or some other thread) that as an example that man can build stuff to damage other...

He is in a better position now than he ever was with those retcon's at the very least.

Still not used to him being a child, i supposed im just used to the original history with him being the god...

There's really no proof that LT wasen't the top dog back then, he always was when it concern's LT and him (lore wise toaa alway's existed even back then be it jack kirby or whoever).

If anything...

Pre-Retcon Beyonder should still be above the "beyonders", individually he wasen't just stronger than the LT, he was massively (even this word doesn't do it justice). However to be honest I/we...

Yup, kind of predictable and cliche, i expected alot better...oh well.

I'll have to agree with you. I mean don't get me wrong the beyonders showing's are really impressive but pr-beyonder was literally so powerful he could wipe LT just by touching him with his pinkie...

That's true, also whatever beyonder did in secret wars was (power wise) was him limiting his power's to achieve whatever he did during those storie's. I don't think we actually witnessed his full...

Yep pretty much, after the first retcon he became a half cosmic cube, during secret wars 3 they merged to form a whole one..yes there was a 3, this was also when the writers did a tie-in for the cube...

Well we do know the beyonders (the race) are a part of this new secret wars story, the only other explanation is if the beyonder duplicated himself, however that's all just speculation so we have to...

Which is why it seem's hickman seem's to be running with the beyonders (the species) second showing/appearance that tie's the beyonder (him being a cosmic cube by that time and him being part of a...

Well the destroyer is supposed to be a new character so i highly doubt it.

Plus omni-beyonder is literally the toaa (supreme being) of another whole foreign multiverse/megaverse's/omniverse...

It was only during the second time we heard/read anything with the beyonders that they tried to tie in the original omni-beyonder (or was it the cube retconned version after the retcon? either way...

It depends there are some ways it's possible. If beyonder is indeed involved with the whole battleworld (that cover picture of a certain issue make's me believe that it does) then the answer could be...

It really depends what version of beyonder they use in this new secret wars (unless it's a completely new version). The original beyonder was so vast that all of marvel was a drop of water compared...