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    I agree, and I certainly don't fault the Raimi...

    I agree, and I certainly don't fault the Raimi films for not being a 1:1 adaptation. I may not love his interpretation of Mary Jane, and he certainly took liberties with several characters, but...
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    Ah, but that headband has a yellow bow, so...

    Ah, but that headband has a yellow bow, so clearly not the same! :p

    Because said character is part of an iconic storyline that was adapted in this film, but was purposefully excluded.

    Anyway,...
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    https://i.insider.com/5d0944d09c510104000ab2e5?wid...

    https://i.insider.com/5d0944d09c510104000ab2e5?width=1100&format=jpeg&auto=webp

    The scene where we first meet her character. On the bus and during the science exhibit.
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    ^ You're doing some serious backflips there to...

    ^ You're doing some serious backflips there to try and argue away any similarities to Gwen. The headband and green coat combo is very much associated with Gwen Stacy. And if not that then being...
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    I mean Mary Jane is shown wearing a headband and...

    I mean Mary Jane is shown wearing a headband and green coat in the film and is thrown off a bridge. That's a very clear nod to Gwen Stacy.

    I always figured Raimi's Mary Jane as being a mash-up of...
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    If I'm not mistaken, the producers pushed Bryce's...

    If I'm not mistaken, the producers pushed Bryce's Gwen into SM3 because there was some concern whether Kirsten would return for future installments. (Which is silly... they should have just recast MJ...
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    Agreed. Nothing against Shailene, but the cast...

    Agreed. Nothing against Shailene, but the cast and crew of those films really had a terrible impression of Mary Jane and some terrible ideas for the character. And Shailene's Mary Jane would've just...
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    I think that's the general impression that people...

    I think that's the general impression that people get from watching various media adaptations, which I think is a disservice to her character.

    MJ pursuing a career in the entertainment industry...
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    Compared to Mary Jane? Who hasn't appeared in a...

    Compared to Mary Jane? Who hasn't appeared in a Live Action feature film since 2007 and has only ever been portrayed by one actress (unless you count the weird MJ homage in the MCU.)

    MJ...who is...
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    At best, I think it's just a lazy way of working...

    At best, I think it's just a lazy way of working Mary Jane into the action.

    At worst, it comes across as a misguided attempt to "fix" Mary Jane because Peter shouldn't date a model/actress or...
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    Lois Lane is a more iconic character than Mary...

    Lois Lane is a more iconic character than Mary Jane. A video game series ain't gonna change decades of media adaptations that have influenced multiple generations. There's literally a statue erected...
  12. And I always thought of her as May's closest...

    And I always thought of her as May's closest friend, but I don't think she has had much of a presence in the comics since the 90s. Even in the JMS era she was noticeably absent.
  13. Anna Watson. Not that she was ever really a major...

    Anna Watson. Not that she was ever really a major character, but she is severely underutilized.
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    Good eye! Definitely looks like an homage. Hoping...

    Good eye! Definitely looks like an homage. Hoping for the best.
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    Yeah the freckles is a J Scott Campbell thing....

    Yeah the freckles is a J Scott Campbell thing. His re-design of MJ seems to be the default look among cosplayers. I didn't like it initially, but It has grown on me. And i think his style has gotten...
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    Tbh, I think McFarlane's fashion choices were...

    Tbh, I think McFarlane's fashion choices were rather tacky (even for the late 80s/early 90s.) If you look at some of the big fashion models of the era, none of them had styles like that. She looked...
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    Don't get we wrong. I like Lois, but I prefer...

    Don't get we wrong. I like Lois, but I prefer Mary Jane. But then again, I prefer Spider-man comics to Superman comics :p
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    Yeah, I know. I was just being silly about that...

    Yeah, I know. I was just being silly about that last part.

    And agreed that Mary Jane is the more interesting and better written of the two characters.

    I also like the fact that (as others...
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    Ah, didn't know that. Well, that's a shame. ...

    Ah, didn't know that. Well, that's a shame.




    Well, both MJ and Lois can be pretty sassy characters. But I think her character veers closer to Mary Jane's with being more of a femme fatale...
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    I haven't seen much of STAS, but yes Lana does...

    I haven't seen much of STAS, but yes Lana does seem very MJ-like. Perhaps the MJ we would have gotten in a Paul Dini/Timm produced show.

    Speaking of cartoon non-MJs, I've always thought Meg from...
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    Swinger had a different meaning in the 60s. It...

    Swinger had a different meaning in the 60s. It was used to refer to someone who knew how to have fun and party without referring to any sexual activity. Similar to how gay used to mean happy, and...
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    Agreed, and I'm afraid we won't be seeing it...

    Agreed, and I'm afraid we won't be seeing it anytime soon with the direction of the MCU films. Maybe if Marvel does more animated movies that adapt classic comics like DC.
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    For the upside down kiss, Raimi wanted a grand...

    For the upside down kiss, Raimi wanted a grand sweeping romantic moment that rivaled those in classic films, and in that I think he definitely succeeded. But it isn't really akin to the intimate...
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    That and the epilogue from ASM #122. That is by...

    That and the epilogue from ASM #122. That is by far my favorite Peter/MJ moment, and I think it would translate beautifully to screen.
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    I've said this before, but Marvel should print a...

    I've said this before, but Marvel should print a collection or a series of volumes that highlight the "key moments" in Peter and MJ's relationship in 616. Something that would make continuity more...
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