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    What has Mystique done in this timeline? Don’t...

    What has Mystique done in this timeline? Don’t remember Magneto criticizing Xavier, just telling him to shut up.
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    It does partly explain why Jean leashed out at...

    It does partly explain why Jean leashed out at people alongside the repressed rage.
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    That was actually the point. ...

    That was actually the point.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mebe002JHzY
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    They actually filmed that but it was cut from the...

    They actually filmed that but it was cut from the final product(likely to shorten the movie so it can get more showtimes). They talked about it in interviews and there is a clip in the trailers where...
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    Yup, it was planned. Here is an example of one of...

    Yup, it was planned. Here is an example of one of several set-ups in DOFP that were paid off in Dark Phoenix.
    ...
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    Are you're saying you wanted Jean to be evil? ...

    Are you're saying you wanted Jean to be evil?



    It was mentioned in the movie a few times. Hank and Charles both said that the energy was making her mutation stronger. Vuk later on says that the...
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    Actually, Kinberg did have a plan. He used Days...

    Actually, Kinberg did have a plan. He used Days of Future Past to give him a chance to tell the Phoenix story again. Said so back in 2014 to Screen Crush, as I pointed out on the last page. He...
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    Jean wasn't possessed by the space energy in the...

    Jean wasn't possessed by the space energy in the movie. Kinberg said back in 2017 it awakened/triggered/created the Phoenix Force that was already inside her in the link I posted.


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    From what I’ve read he regrets not fighting...

    From what I’ve read he regrets not fighting harder for the storyline being front and center.

    Interview from 2014.



    https://screencrush.com/simon-kinberg-x-men-days-of-future-past/

    “It's...
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    Interestingly, that is exactly what happened in...

    Interestingly, that is exactly what happened in the comic version before all the retcons.
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    That Kinberg was head writer(when it was really...

    That Kinberg was head writer(when it was really Zak Penn) and that he had tons of creative control when a simple google search will tell you otherwise.



    Its never called the Phoenix in the...
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    Yes, because it was another second take at the...

    Yes, because it was another second take at the Phoenix storyline. Like how Deadpool was a second take at Wade’s origin.

    Either way, it’s a fallacy of presumption.
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    In the comics it was originally Jean’s own power...

    In the comics it was originally Jean’s own power and that was stated to be the case in the original trilogy. But I don’t think that is what he is saying.

    Also, most people don’t read comics.
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    Well, this puts an end to the whole “they...

    Well, this puts an end to the whole “they retconned Apocalypse” complaint.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelatFox/comments/d6kyt3/answering_the_phoenix_force_question/
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    Btw, this puts an end to the whole “they...

    Btw, this puts an end to the whole “they retconned Apocalypse” complaint.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelatFox/comments/d6kyt3/answering_the_phoenix_force_question/
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    This movie wasnít really about Jean becoming...

    This movie wasnít really about Jean becoming corrupted but rather that she was suffering from schizophrenia, essentially.

    And it was originally planned as a two parter with Jessica Chastain as...
  17. The X-Men movies.

    The X-Men movies.
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    2 Kinberg Phoenix movies? If you are referring to...

    2 Kinberg Phoenix movies? If you are referring to X3 Kinberg had only wrote a draft that was heavily rewritten by Zak Penn due to studio mandate as they felt it was too dark and expensive. This has...
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    The Hulk in the MCU has innocent blood on his...

    The Hulk in the MCU has innocent blood on his hands too. In fact, Jean’s storyline was very similar to a Hulk story.

    While we are on the subject of the movie Chris Claremont confirmed the two...
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    Wasnít saying it does. Interestingly, Iíve seen a...

    Wasnít saying it does. Interestingly, Iíve seen a lot of people misread the story because she was marketed to be evil.



    Itís behind the scenes content that was recorded during filming(notice...
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    Btw, had this conversation a few months back.

    Btw, had this conversation a few months back.
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    The ending of Apocalypse played it up like he was...

    The ending of Apocalypse played it up like he was was pardoned for helping stop Apocalypse. Far-fetched? Yes. But that is an issue that should be taken with Apocalypse instead of Dark Phoenix, since...
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    The video didn’t mention what he did in DOFP just...

    The video didn’t mention what he did in DOFP just Apocalypse. In Apocalypse the public never found out that Magneto took part of the destruction as it was reported that Apocalypse was the cause and...
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    I’ve come to find that people on Screen Junkies...

    I’ve come to find that people on Screen Junkies seem to have a hard time remembering events from the X-films. Mystique tried to kill Trask instead of the president and Magneto being a free man was...
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    I found it strange that it said we don’t get to...

    I found it strange that it said we don’t get to know Jean Grey because they explore her backstory and the plot resolved around her childhood trauma.

    That and asking why Magneto is a free man when...
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