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    That's not what I asked lol.

    That's not what I asked lol.
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    Trust me, I've made this point at least 2x....

    Trust me, I've made this point at least 2x. People ignore that Sinister has power on Krakoa and forget that no one knows he's no long on Xavier's leash.
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    Well, how many of Magneto's sand castles need to...

    Well, how many of Magneto's sand castles need to kicked down before he realizes he's not on top of the food chain?
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    Superiors? Doom can literally destroy universes...

    Superiors? Doom can literally destroy universes via his genius and he's a sorcerer supreme level sorcerer. Reed is even smarter that him, to the point that he could properly instruct a child into...
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    If everything is canon, then nothing is, due to...

    If everything is canon, then nothing is, due to all the contradictions between writers.
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    Again....Doom saved the multivverse. You're...

    Again....Doom saved the multivverse.

    You're right, this is a stupid conversation.
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    No, it's a comic book problem. Magneto is...

    No, it's a comic book problem.

    Magneto is talking like a crazy person. He keeps goading humanity's authorities as if he's not aware that they kill him in nearly every possible scenario/future....
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    When did those stories portray Doom as a saint?...

    When did those stories portray Doom as a saint? I'm saying you can't develop a character, then have him act like stuff never happened with the next writer. Then you'll have comic fans say the...
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    First, I did keep up. I liked Blue. Still...

    First, I did keep up. I liked Blue.

    Still that's my point; you gotta read all this other stuff to understand things, or you're lost. Then you get writers like Bendis or Millar that just do...
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    Is it canon? Is anything in comics really canon?...

    Is it canon? Is anything in comics really canon? Miller, Waid and Slott write Doom like it's still the 60s.
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    I'll be honest with you. Mark Waid's and Miller's...

    I'll be honest with you. Mark Waid's and Miller's Dooms are horrible, and counter to his development. Hickman actually wanted to evolve the character.

    The fact that everything ultimately reverts...
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    You're right. Who's morally better is irrelevant,...

    You're right. Who's morally better is irrelevant, and not my point. The point is that the F4 trust Doom with their child more because (when written consistently) he will die to keep Val safe if it...
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    This is what I thought, too. I thought it was...

    This is what I thought, too. I thought it was public knowledge, and the anti-mutant supremacists know not to touch the F4.
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    Why wouldn't they trust him? They take him on...

    Why wouldn't they trust him? They take him on missions and has been in the mess so many times. He's just being written as a self-centered, hormonal teenager. You'd think his experiences would give...
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    Val living with Doom is incomparable given the...

    Val living with Doom is incomparable given the context.

    Regardless, this issue was poorly written. If they invite the F4 onto Krakoa so they can work together, there is no conflict.

    Why...
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    Like you said. With good intentions. He...

    Like you said. With good intentions. He ultimately saved everyone, while Sinister and Apocalypse would have either done it for laughs or let everyone die.
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    Facts! It's like they forgot who's on that damn...

    Facts! It's like they forgot who's on that damn council.
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    Doom had just lived with them, and saved their...

    Doom had just lived with them, and saved their lives. Also, both parents gave consent. Also, Val chose to live with him, without persuading, to make him a good person and make the world a better...
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    Also a good point. He was being disrespectful af....

    Also a good point. He was being disrespectful af. Doesn't excuse violence, but he was being disrespectful af while claiming to be a god and that her child belongs to them because of the X-gene.
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    Well said lol

    Well said lol
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    Chip is at fault, because the entire scenario...

    Chip is at fault, because the entire scenario makes no sense.
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    It's not more interesting because it's contrived...

    It's not more interesting because it's contrived as hell. Why not show up with just F4 friendly mutants, and invite the whole family to Krakoa? They knew who they were going to try to convince: the...
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    Wut.....? Let's do that to everyone with kids,...

    Wut.....?

    Let's do that to everyone with kids, then. Make sure to start once the kids are born, too.
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    That's a real extra take. In no way does this...

    That's a real extra take. In no way does this situation make the F4 look like how this person describes. Literally just trying to push an agenda, imo, by looking too much between lines that don't...
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    What does that have to do with Peter Parker?

    What does that have to do with Peter Parker?
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