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    Oh, pardon me, they included the Avengers only to...

    Oh, pardon me, they included the Avengers only to throw them under the bus, as usual with most X-writers...
    That's why I actually appreciated X-Men Red, the one time an X-writer actually tried to...
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    That commando was sponsored by what is factually...

    That commando was sponsored by what is factually a terror organization made up of extremists and supremacists.
    Unless you are saying the main population of Earth is made up of extremists and...
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    It still is discrimination, the opposite of what...

    It still is discrimination, the opposite of what Xavier's dream used to be.



    True, it's hard to believe in it given the current leader the americans elected a few years ago, but surely they'll...
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    Your bias is talking here. "They didn't show up...

    Your bias is talking here.
    "They didn't show up = they don't care" is a pretty huge leap to make, and doesn't prove anything per se.
    The only reason you didn't see the rest of the Marvel Universe...
  5. Poll: Cyclops himself admitted to Cable - the real...

    Cyclops himself admitted to Cable - the real Cable - he didn't know a lot of things about the Phoenix, and how dangerous it was.
    Not only that, but he had lived through several phoenix meltdowns so...
  6. Poll: Oh, am I ? This is aaall my headcanon you say? ...

    Oh, am I ? This is aaall my headcanon you say?

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m60cjp0kyk1r1t9nio2_1280.jpg...
  7. Poll: "Cyclops could have released the Phoenix Force...

    "Cyclops could have released the Phoenix Force whenever he wanted to Hope once possessed, but refused to out of arrogance."

    "Cyclops knew the danger of the PF long before AvX, yet was willing to...
  8. Poll: In whatever is the AvX issue where he talks down...

    In whatever is the AvX issue where he talks down to Hope about her being undeserving of that power.



    All you are doing here is making conjectures and assumptions.
    "Wanda looked for dark magic...
  9. Poll: AvX is not a "what if" story, it's canon to the...

    AvX is not a "what if" story, it's canon to the 616 continuity, you can dismiss its content all you want, it still happened and count as a result.
    Unless it was retconned out of continuity somewhere...
  10. Poll: You're missing the point. He denied Hope the PF...

    You're missing the point.
    He denied Hope the PF because he deemed her unworthy of it, not because he was unable to give it to her.
    The "How" is pointless.



    Ah really? Then I'm sure you can...
  11. Poll: Cyclops could have released the Phoenix Force...

    Cyclops could have released the Phoenix Force whenever he wanted to Hope once possessed, but refused to out of arrogance.
    Wanda never had the chance to do anything once possessed by the Life Force....
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    And? So what? The whole point of this forum...

    And? So what?

    The whole point of this forum is for people to talk about what they've been reading and express what they think about it.

    You Don't like what some people say? That's fine, you...
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    The man litteraly has the blood of millions on...

    The man litteraly has the blood of millions on his hands, and you choose to ignore all the exactions he committed to only push forth the acts that light him as a heroic figure.

    ...

    You know?...
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    No one is saying Krakoa is wrong, no one is...

    No one is saying Krakoa is wrong, no one is discussing the existence of the country.
    What people are questionning is:

    1/ Why are the X-Men part of that initiative, given their whole point is...
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    Mind you, my point was about the Kraked not...

    Mind you, my point was about the Kraked not having the moral high ground, not about the sapiens somehow having it.
    Not the same.



    Whataboutism doesn't make Magneto and Apocalypse any less...
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    Beaubier is right, Hope do love being the center...

    Beaubier is right, Hope do love being the center of the attention.
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    "You can argue the motives behind it if you want,...

    "You can argue the motives behind it if you want, it doesn't change the nature of the act, nor the gravity of it. It's one thing to do this on a kidnapper who's hidden his next victim somewhere in...
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    I fail to see how showing restraint in this one...

    I fail to see how showing restraint in this one instance clears out anything?
    Yes, Magneto and Apocalypse showed remarkable restraints in that incident and yes, they had the moral high ground in...
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    Diplomacy noun di·​plo·​ma·​cy | \...

    Diplomacy noun

    di·​plo·​ma·​cy | \ də-ˈplō-mə-sē
    \
    Definition of diplomacy
    1: the art and practice of conducting negotiations between nations
    2: skill in handling affairs without arousing...
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    Surely you can realize the compromises and...

    Surely you can realize the compromises and stepping into grey areas you are comfortable with and agreeing with, are not comfortable and agreeable to everyone?
    There's Nothing wrong for Calling out...
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    That's not what s/he said. Nor that. ...

    That's not what s/he said.



    Nor that.



    True, and the same can be said from mutants extremists as well. Extremism doesn't need much excuse to express itself, possibly violently.
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    That's a logical fallacy right there but I think...

    That's a logical fallacy right there but I think you know it.
    There's a ton of ways for mutants to not actually coexist with sapiens without them leaving the planet, and isolating themselves on a...
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    That factually is isolation, regardless of the...

    That factually is isolation, regardless of the motives behind it. Motives that I'm not discussing btw.



    Well it's not, but at the very least, it's not separating themselves from everyone else...
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    Well, yeah, obviously they were rarely doing a...

    Well, yeah, obviously they were rarely doing a proper job of protecting the world given some of their most notorious member regularly threatened it or jeopardized it.
    Magneto.
    Xavier.
    Jean Grey....
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    Magneto himself said to the sapiens him and his...

    Magneto himself said to the sapiens him and his people were playing the long game with them.
    They're convinced they'll outlast and outnumber the sapiens with time, so they are trying to get enough...
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