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    So we really don't know for certain the fate of...

    So we really don't know for certain the fate of the country. A huge number of them are dead just based off last issue, including their President. I can't tell off that last page if everyone is dead...
  2. Destiny isn't completely omnicient. After all,...

    Destiny isn't completely omnicient. After all, she never foresaw that assassinating that politician would lead to Days of Future Past. And it still feels odd that even if she didn't care much about...
  3. Well given that the story is telling us that...

    Well given that the story is telling us that she's destroying the entire universe, she's killing tons of babies every time!

    But in all seriousness, if the solution is Moira going away, there are...
  4. Not necessarily. As the first post pointed out,...

    Not necessarily. As the first post pointed out, Moira makes no mention of mutants in any way in her first life, which would be especially weird if Magneto was a thing and going on TV making...
  5. I've been thinking about this exact same theory,...

    I've been thinking about this exact same theory, though I never tied it into the Dominion or the Phalanx because I just don't know much about them.

    And remember, that explanation from the blue guy...
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    I don't normally come into this topic because I...

    I don't normally come into this topic because I really don't like Emma, but a friend showed me a page from the recent History of the Marvel Universe series. That series ends with hints of various...
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    I think that's a re-release of the first 2 issues...

    I think that's a re-release of the first 2 issues Captain Britain appeared it. Description described his origin story.

    These sorts of events can be hit and miss. When done well it can be epic. ...
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    That's why I changed it to something like "remove...

    That's why I changed it to something like "remove everyone currently on the Quiet Council". Plus even in the original suggestion some good mutants like Wolverine would still be around. I'd take...
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    Again, Mr. Sinister and Apocalypse are right...

    Again, Mr. Sinister and Apocalypse are right there. Hell, Exodus is too, and he's the most successful weapon that Apocalypse has made!

    This is all getting off topic though. This topic was...
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    I see a lot of people posting like its an out and...

    I see a lot of people posting like its an out and out race war between all mutants and all humans, which gets a little tiresome because of that exact reason you just said.



    That's kind of my...
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    Continues the theme of Excalibur. Namely that...

    Continues the theme of Excalibur. Namely that the main cast is interchangeable and inherently disposable, and are just pawns to the actual villains Apocalypse and Jaime. And how about that mutant...
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    Mr. Sinister is standing right there, on the...

    Mr. Sinister is standing right there, on the Quiet Council. Hell, Apocalypse and have had their share of mad scientist moments too. Almost none of the times mutant children have been rounded up for...
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    So I have an odd question. How dedicated to the...

    So I have an odd question. How dedicated to the mutant cause is Wolverine? He's obviously been a part of the teams for a long time, but he's also not been afraid to call out some of the shady shit...
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    Oh absolutely. And it would just be swapping 2...

    Oh absolutely. And it would just be swapping 2 privileged white men for 2 privileged white women. Most of whom are American. The shear lack of diversity and international differences in mutants...
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    That's fair, but it does get right back to the...

    That's fair, but it does get right back to the problem of the fate of mutantkind being entirely based around two old privileged white guys. Its kind of ridiculous.
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    Did she? In many of her lives she didn't bother...

    Did she? In many of her lives she didn't bother letting them even form.

    Side note: it annoyed me to no end that most of Moira's lives were her throwing her support behind powerful men and their...
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    Never read it, so I can't comment. But Fury has...

    Never read it, so I can't comment. But Fury has his share of terribleness so I'll take your word for it.

    Why don't we go a step further with this. Not only Xavier and Magneto, but all/most of...
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    Plus a lot of Scott's nastier decisions and...

    Plus a lot of Scott's nastier decisions and actions rose from being trained and treated as a child soldier leader. He's kind of a seriously broken individual because of Xavier and Magneto.

    Now...
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    What's that Cyclops page from? I hate those...

    What's that Cyclops page from? I hate those moments.



    I said it torpedoed his goodwill because it retconned his very first moments, meaning from day 1 he was lying and manipulating everyone,...
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    Xavier and Magneto are both terrible and their...

    Xavier and Magneto are both terrible and their continued domination of X books and mythos is a blight on the series. That the entire status of a minority race hinges on the attitudes and behavior of...
  21. Not really? Most of those have been a character...

    Not really? Most of those have been a character say "I don't like this thing/person" for a page, then they shut up and go along with it anyway. Logan's moments have been the worst, because he...
  22. To that point, a problem with the X line for a...

    To that point, a problem with the X line for a long time has been that its been in its own little corner of Marvel, and mutants basically didn't exist in other books. There were some exceptions,...
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    Not my point. I'm just saying this absolutely...

    Not my point. I'm just saying this absolutely wasn't 'leave no witnesses'.
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    I mean, they're backed by at least 2 governments,...

    I mean, they're backed by at least 2 governments, and their enemy is well known for their telepathy and mind control. Its not hard to put 2 and 2 together. They don't really need to prove it to...
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    You're joking, right? Evidence of a giant,...

    You're joking, right? Evidence of a giant, sudden iceberg for starters. Drastic changes in personality and a missing person nobody should have known about. And then the obvious logical inference...
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