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  1. I have to disagree. That implies that in...

    I have to disagree.

    That implies that in order for POC/LGBT characters to have an audience, they need to 'steal', for a lack of a better term, the white, straight character's identity.

    In...
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    I could barely take what is probably the most...

    I could barely take what is probably the most decompressed storyline I've read in my life, but now we're also introducing a flashback arc while Superman is sidelined?

    Well, I'm dropping this for...
  3. Poll: Saying "No" doesn't make you any more right, my...

    Saying "No" doesn't make you any more right, my friend. Have you read Superman Reborn? Because it seems highly unlikely you understood that they're the same being, and they recombined into a history...
  4. Poll: Well, you're wrong. New 52 Superman is Rebirth...

    Well, you're wrong. New 52 Superman is Rebirth Superman when he was young, and that is clearly established in Superman Reborn. You can't have a 40-45 years old married dad act like he is the golden...
  5. Poll: Didn't we already go over this, and New 52...

    Didn't we already go over this, and New 52 Superman was revealed to be the same being as Superdad, and they combined their histories to become one?

    Was everybody not here when people used to argue...
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    It's hard to make the competition fair, when...

    It's hard to make the competition fair, when Diana is the daughter of Zeus, while the others are not. You can't even play out here receiving the gifts only after the contest.

    I'd make an excuse...
  7. I'm excited since it's Morrison, obviously, but,...

    I'm excited since it's Morrison, obviously, but, at the same time, kind of disappointed.

    Grant is very good at large scale, cosmic stories, and I'd love him to have handled that type of...
  8. I'm done. I should have stopped the moment...

    I'm done. I should have stopped the moment "Superman is stronger because sexism" was brought into the discussion.

    This can only degenerate more, so I'm out.

    See you guys in other threads ;)
  9. She's less effective than him against Doomsday,...

    She's less effective than him against Doomsday, while he's less efective than her against Dr. Fate.

    They have different types of strengths and weaknesses.

    They can't be equally effective,...
  10. That's the point. If you make her as strong...

    That's the point.

    If you make her as strong physically, but also the best fighter on the planet, and also with a magical sword, a magical tiara and bracelets which can deflect anything, he's...
  11. Exactly. In fact, Batman made the same point,...

    Exactly.

    In fact, Batman made the same point, when all of the Justice League has a weakness to stop them...except Wonder Woman:
    ...
  12. That's a pretty good attempt at deflection, but...

    That's a pretty good attempt at deflection, but answer the question, which is: Do you dispute that Wonder Woman being physically equal to Superman, but on top of that having the lasso, bracers,...
  13. Obviously, you do not, otherwise you wouldn't be...

    Obviously, you do not, otherwise you wouldn't be saying things that are demonstrably wrong.

    I'm giving you the benefit of a doubt and assume you're doing this due to obvious lack of knowledge.
    ...
  14. I've read every Superman and Wonder Woman...

    I've read every Superman and Wonder Woman appearance, ever published, or close to it.

    They're both in my top 5 favorite characters.

    Wonder Woman wasn't even as strong as Superboy, who moved an...
  15. If she were physically equal to Superman, she'd...

    If she were physically equal to Superman, she'd make him redundant, considering she's much more skilled, magical, with a sword that cuts through anything, with a bracelet that blocks anything, and...
  16. I'd rather not. Rebirth Superman being all...

    I'd rather not.

    Rebirth Superman being all the previous versions, the T-Shirt social crusader, the impulsive superhero, the wise icon is what appeals to me, immensely, as you can actually see the...
  17. My intent was to ask for the confrontation to be...

    My intent was to ask for the confrontation to be without any other story-specific context. Within the story, Diana eventually trumphs, one way or the other, obviously.

    To give a better example,...
  18. Which Wonder Woman villains should she be unable to beat in a fight?

    I was thinking about Grail today, and how she started off as somebody who was above Diana within Darkseid War, but became a punching bag in James Robinson's arc.

    So, on that note,
    Which of...
  19. I think it's an equalizer, more than an edge. ...

    I think it's an equalizer, more than an edge.

    Diana still has her beat in all the other areas, and she has crazy good weapons. Cheetah's unpredictability, coupled with Diana's compassion,...
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    That's a pretty perfect ranking. To quote...

    That's a pretty perfect ranking.

    To quote myself from another thread..

    Barry/Wally are the fastest speedsters, while Reverse Flash is the fastest speedster villain.

    Superman is the fastest...
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    That list mirrors my thoughts exactly. ...

    That list mirrors my thoughts exactly.

    Barry/Wally are the fastest speedsters, while Reverse Flash is the fastest speedster villain.

    Superman is the fastest non-speedster hero, as every comic...
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    Yep. Besides, I'd rather be a bit slower than...

    Yep.

    Besides, I'd rather be a bit slower than them, but with superior, insane fighting skills, sword and lasso, lol.

    I've always loved her resourcefulness and tactics, rather than specific...
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    She was amped specifically 100 fold to the edge...

    She was amped specifically 100 fold to the edge of the speedforce against Jessie, and was also specifically going behind her slipstream.

    In other showings, she has admitted Wally is an indistinct...
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    Yep. I'd have liked at least an explanation...

    Yep.

    I'd have liked at least an explanation that Superman is on Earth, so he has to be careful on going too fast, while they do not.

    Outside of the atmosphere, there's no such concern, and...
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    They didn't race to any location. The issue was...

    They didn't race to any location. The issue was Superman investigating the problem with Impulse tagging along and zig-zagging impulsively (ha!). The one time Superman actually poured on speed, as he...
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