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    I've been a diehard Jean fan for nearly 20 years....

    I've been a diehard Jean fan for nearly 20 years. I don't care much for Scott or Scott and Jean's relationship (although I do recognize their relationship's importance to their history and I like...
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    Chris Claremont's post about the film on his...

    Chris Claremont's post about the film on his facebook...
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    Doesn't that also stem from the comics? ...

    Doesn't that also stem from the comics?

    Originally the Phoenix was Jean's power. Then when the force was first added in, it was just a force NOT the "phoenix force". Jean's merger with the...
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    Jean couldn't keep it together either tho. :p

    Jean couldn't keep it together either tho. :p
  5. I posted this in the movie thread... I liked...

    I posted this in the movie thread...

    I liked it. It was a Jean Grey movie. Sure, it wasn't perfect and was rushed. Felt a bit short and I wanted more. There were some scenes and several parts...
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    I liked it. It was a Jean Grey movie. Sure, it...

    I liked it. It was a Jean Grey movie. Sure, it wasn't perfect and was rushed. Felt a bit short and I wanted more. There were some scenes and several parts of dialogue that were in the trailers,...
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    According to spoilers I've read, Storm does have...

    According to spoilers I've read, Storm does have more impressive power stunts (including things she hasn't done in the previous films), but unfortunately she doesn't have much dialogue (kinda like...
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    Whoever thought Age of X-Man was a good idea...

    Whoever thought Age of X-Man was a good idea should be fired.
  9. I would love for them to establish that Jean's...

    I would love for them to establish that Jean's Marvel Girl "cat mask" is actually "wings"-- Phoenix wings-- kinda like how She-Ra's mask symbolizes wings. I know, I know, this will never happen and...
  10. Pretty sure it was an April Fools prank. :(

    Pretty sure it was an April Fools prank. :(
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    The last thing we needed was another Summers....

    The last thing we needed was another Summers.
    lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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    Yeah, most of Dark Phoenix's phoenix effects were...

    Yeah, most of Dark Phoenix's phoenix effects were in Jean's pink psychic energy (as in almost all of them except one or two). Jean in the green Phoenix costume had the fiery/golden phoenix raptors...
  13. I don't really mind that they started out with...

    I don't really mind that they started out with the Phoenix being Jean's own powers and then transitioned to the Phoenix being a cosmic force, because that is what happened in the comics. It may not...
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    Agreed. They want to go straight to Dark Phoenix...

    Agreed. They want to go straight to Dark Phoenix without going through Phoenix. In the original story Jean was good Phoenix through most of it.

    In a way Jean was the good version of Phoenix...
  15. In [Uncanny] X-Men #18, Magneto tries to kill...

    In [Uncanny] X-Men #18, Magneto tries to kill Xavier and the X-Men (minus Iceman) by trapping them in a hot air balloon type contraption. The goal was to send them up into the stratosphere and then...
  16. Jean fought Mastermind long before she became...

    Jean fought Mastermind long before she became Phoenix...

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pQqQONIf2xk/XEfkeS6t8oI/AAAAAAAABmI/OSxCMHUTO9wp_H4-R9dO1P1jKofBwUMBwCLcBGAs/s1600/Jean-Uncanny5-2.JPG
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    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ONP__BkrO1g/XEfn7HbIjhI/AAAAAAAABo4/8Bwv0gRptaQyie-PZohZFweCzvqC7PzYACLcBGAs/s1600/Jean-sentinels-Uncanny15.JPG
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  18. More scans of Jean being (comparatively) strong...

    More scans of Jean being (comparatively) strong (for the time) during her early Marvel Girl days...
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    Here is the character sketch of Jean Grey/Phoenix...

    Here is the character sketch of Jean Grey/Phoenix from Dave Cockrum. His notes reflects Claremont's original idea and the Phoenix is referred to as a schizoid personality within Jean.
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    The 2nd explanation was introduced in the final...

    The 2nd explanation was introduced in the final issue of the story. Fans forget that the cosmic force was introduced in the final issue and was a different explanation from the first one given.
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    Here are some scans showing the original...

    Here are some scans showing the original explanation of the Phoenix from the original story (then I will post scans showing the 2nd explanation for the Phoenix given in the final issue of the...
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    But originally in the comic story the Phoenix was...

    But originally in the comic story the Phoenix was simply Jean's own power/potential and slightly divergent persona. It was later changed to a force and even later retconned into a being/entity of...
  23. I like the bit about the cuckoos flaunting their...

    I like the bit about the cuckoos flaunting their familial relationship. Its an interesting concept in this universe that not only is romance prohibited but family bonds are to be downplayed too.
  24. Yes and No. Claremont's explanation for Jean's...

    Yes and No.

    Claremont's explanation for Jean's raptors in Revolution was that they were her own power, naturally manifesting in the form of the phoenix raptor. Her psychic powers honed to their...
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    I mentioned this in the old thread... But its...

    I mentioned this in the old thread...

    But its frustrating when some fans complain about certain scenes from X3 (Jean going back to her childhood home, Jean fighting Xavier, and Jean holding back...
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