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    As botched as it was I think in some regards they...

    As botched as it was I think in some regards they were genuine in trying to create a fresh, modern, spin on the DCU to attract new readers.
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    So Mantis has her martial arts skills. Finally. ...

    So Mantis has her martial arts skills. Finally.

    Was probably the only comic-accurate thing about her in the special.
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    You can't be an established franchise long enough...

    You can't be an established franchise long enough without a Christmas special or two!

    I was not expecting the animated intro with more photorealistic young Peter, Kraglin, and even Yondu! It was...
  4. Still acted like a dick though, and it didn't...

    Still acted like a dick though, and it didn't feel like they ever 100% reconciled in the cartoon.

    At least in Nightwing Year One he got to show his sentimental side a bit more in later issues, if...
  5. From what I remember of how they handled it in...

    From what I remember of how they handled it in the DCAU, Bruce didn't straight up fire him but he was still a massive Dick being part of the reason why Dick left.

    I get the sense that's more from...
  6. I mean, Johns can do his own thing, but it's not...

    I mean, Johns can do his own thing, but it's not something I see other writers acknowledging or developing at this point.

    They still have to make sense of Power Girl debuting before Superman, I...
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    I guess to me I just don't see her as an...

    I guess to me I just don't see her as an "immature child" even if she's very spontaneous and at times selfish or ego driven, but in a way that still came off like an adult woman. Compared to the New...
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    I think this show has definitely bumped up the...

    I think this show has definitely bumped up the entire ISA and characters like Eclipso.
  9. There's Titans Dick and there's Batfamily Dick...

    There's Titans Dick and there's Batfamily Dick and some eras lean more into one or the other, but I don't view it that much differently than the fact that the stuff Batman deals with in Justice...
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    From what I remember he didn't even really...

    From what I remember he didn't even really apologize or reflect on what he did to Maya, he basically just told her they had both been used.
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    Characters have survived from worse in comics.

    Characters have survived from worse in comics.
  12. Harley appeared in Simone's run but she was...

    Harley appeared in Simone's run but she was usually taken out in one punch.
  13. I mean, Gwen can barely hold her own series and...

    I mean, Gwen can barely hold her own series and they just throw gimmicks at her. She may as well be in Miles' supporting cast at this point.
  14. To me it set the bar for how the Batfamily should...

    To me it set the bar for how the Batfamily should work in the comics, at least comparative to now where it feels like it can be all over the place, although back then they didn't have the issue of so...
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    Not Harley's new GN?

    Not Harley's new GN?
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    And the Guardians have probably killed tons of...

    And the Guardians have probably killed tons of people, and the likelihood they all deserved it is unlikely, Nebula was an accomplice to Ronan and helped kill a bunch of Nova Corps. officers, etc.
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  17. I mean, I don't agree with his politics or...

    I mean, I don't agree with his politics or personal opinions but he wrote plenty of good Batman comics and stuff that I appreciated (basically cultivating the 90's Batfamily and creating the BoP, and...
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    I guess just to me the issue is that it just...

    I guess just to me the issue is that it just doesn't track with so many stories that came before and feels like it's doubling down on something they don't need to double down on.

    And I don't...
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    I'm not trying to? I'm just emphasizing how much...

    I'm not trying to? I'm just emphasizing how much she hates having to make it.
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    Clint was basically the Punisher if he got to get...

    Clint was basically the Punisher if he got to get his family back and walk away from being the Punisher with very little tangible consequences and a peppy young girl who was totally okay with that :p.
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    That's probably true for a lot of kids, whether...

    That's probably true for a lot of kids, whether their parents intend for it or not.

    Although when some vigilante kills your dad, that probably helps too.
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    I think it's more complicated than the "easiest"...

    I think it's more complicated than the "easiest" route or thinking she's doing what is in her daughters' best interest, because she hates it herself, but she's between a rock and a hard place and her...
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    I don't think we got the sense of that. Like...

    I don't think we got the sense of that. Like Kingpin was her uncle and she was trained in self-defense but I never got the sense that she was being raised specifically to join the family and had no...
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    Do you feel this way about every comic book...

    Do you feel this way about every comic book Superhero?
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    Is he coming off as bitter enough even in their...

    Is he coming off as bitter enough even in their "civil" interactions though?
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