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    Well quite. It’s fun and entertaining but it is...

    Well quite. It’s fun and entertaining but it is not character driven IMO. It is Plot Driven with lots and lots of character arcs that don’t really help the story get anywhere. So while I do like his...
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    My entire point is that the distinction is very...

    My entire point is that the distinction is very clear cut but that most people look at it on the wrong level. Its simply about what the story is trying to say or achieve at the level of intended...
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    I wasn’t saying your criticism was invalid, I was...

    I wasn’t saying your criticism was invalid, I was saying I don’t recognise it as relating to this comic and was interested in you providing some actual evidence, considering you said it was objective...
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    He is just not my cup of tea. No judgment. As I...

    He is just not my cup of tea. No judgment. As I said earlier I am sure there is an audience for that specific brand of nostalgia. But I am not part of that audience. Apart from the convincing...
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    We just don't see eye to eye on these things. I...

    We just don't see eye to eye on these things. I have never really had a strong connection to Masterson, I adored Jane as Thor, and I never once bought into the "Jobber Thor" rhetoric. The closest we...
  6. I like what it says about Morgan. That she has...

    I like what it says about Morgan. That she has been forced into her position through circumstances. That she would rather not be defending Camelot but that it is her duty. It suggests to me a...
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    Interesting take. Why do you say this? What have...

    Interesting take. Why do you say this? What have we seen that detracts from his portrayal in the comic? What was the point in your opinion? I would say his point was the impact he had on everyone and...
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    I get that. But for me personally I like a bit of...

    I get that. But for me personally I like a bit of mystery and ambiguity. We will probably get that still but we will see. One of the criticisms of the comic that I personally agree with is the overly...
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    If you want to claim that with more than lip...

    If you want to claim that with more than lip service you need to point to it on the page, because that’s my point. So far you have shifted your definition of characterisation three times from my...
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    Well Worthy Thor was disappointing. The Simonson...

    Well Worthy Thor was disappointing. The Simonson story was pretty well crafted for the space, but did we really need stories between the pages of Thunderstrike or even JAs Thor?

    I am sure there...
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    Again you define things narrowly so you can...

    Again you define things narrowly so you can accuse this book of being bad somehow. This is not objective despite your protests that it is.

    We saw plenty of character beats that only fit individual...
  12. This was fun and interesting. I really liked the...

    This was fun and interesting. I really liked the subtle ending of the Otherworld scenes “From one reluctant Warrior Queen to another, long may we reign”. That hints at so much. Great writing.
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    I think I have made the point pretty clear...

    I think I have made the point pretty clear already, that there is strong characterisation in this issue and the preceding ones. That what you seem to be asking for is not characterisation but instead...
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    I didn’t accuse you of that. I have a habit of...

    I didn’t accuse you of that. I have a habit of adding to my posts, and as such I wanted to draw your attention to what I had added to better clarify my points.

    They can’t be compared in this way...
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    You are making a value judgment here. In doing so...

    You are making a value judgment here. In doing so you are totally ignoring copious Hickman character development because it isn’t a character arc. He isn’t trying to write a character arc and valuing...
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    Calling something objective is not the same as...

    Calling something objective is not the same as identifying an objective thing. I wrote a lot more than what you quoted to try and clarify my point. In that I would claim that comics were just a as...
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    That’s taste talking. Why compare an apple with...

    That’s taste talking. Why compare an apple with an orange by claiming all fruit should contain segments or have a thick skin? Enjoy both for what they are. Seek to understand what the strengths of...
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    Again, what do you mean by ‘development’. In this...

    Again, what do you mean by ‘development’. In this issue for example a number of character beats are hit. Those are character moments. What they are not seeking to do is confront inner conflicts....
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    I think you need to read what I was actually...

    I think you need to read what I was actually saying. You are arguing over my shoulder making counter arguments to something I didn’t say.
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    We need to be careful with definitions here. I...

    We need to be careful with definitions here. I would call character development an expression of character such that we can see them more clearly. Hickman does this perfectly well. You seem to be...
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    I totally disagree. Soap opera is not character...

    I totally disagree. Soap opera is not character development. That is just melodrama. It is often called ‘situation driven’ or ‘arena driven’ but I call it unfocused writing.
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    Look. We all know surely that character...

    Look. We all know surely that character “development” is not what Hickman does. That doesn’t mean he is doing anything wrong. 90% of comics are devoid of that. Character development is the type of...
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    You seem to be both throwing up obstacles and...

    You seem to be both throwing up obstacles and then complaining about it.

    Kate can attend the council with notice. She just arrives on the island and walks. No big deal in a comic universe that...
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    You seemed to take an awful lot of effort to say...

    You seemed to take an awful lot of effort to say you don’t see things the way I do. But, then you seemed to use my own counter argument like for example the position in the series. I have no idea why...
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    I have really mixed feelings about this episode....

    I have really mixed feelings about this episode. I can’t shake the idea that it is being watered down a little for its audience. This feels true for the whole series to some extent. Every theme has a...
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