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    Poll: Black Canary gets really overrated imo,...

    Black Canary gets really overrated imo, especially in the current continuity.

    She doesn't really have the kind of special training that the others have, and not many really impressive feats.
  2. And Dick was 21 back then, that would make her...

    And Dick was 21 back then, that would make her 15-17.

    But if we are looking at the last book she was in (Batman and the Outsiders), she was treated as being roughly the same age and "rank" as...
  3. Not by much, at least in the 70s version. Mal...

    Not by much, at least in the 70s version.

    Mal is pretty bland, had poorly defined powers (once he got them), and could never really stick to an identity. And Bumblebee wasn't really doing much in...
  4. Teenagers on the Justice League is imo always a...

    Teenagers on the Justice League is imo always a bad idea (back then Cass was allready 18 or 19, current Cass maybe 16).

    Having her (or any other Batcharacter) on the team along side Batman is also...
  5. Thread: Batwoman (2019)

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    I have to agree, but considering that the views...

    I have to agree, but considering that the views usually drop significantly from the first to the second episode in any season and than keep dropping slowly through out the season, absolute numbers...
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    In BoP the main characters (at least during the...

    In BoP the main characters (at least during the Dixon run) was imo Black Canary.

    And while she was technically the information broker of the JLA I can't remember her appearing much in that book.
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  7. He was iirc worse in Justice League Europe (or...

    He was iirc worse in Justice League Europe (or was is one of the other JLI era books ...).
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    Are the other Batgirls more interesting? Steph...

    Are the other Batgirls more interesting?
    Steph as Batigirl is not that differnt to Barbara as Batgirl, the only unique thing she has is being the Daughter of Clue Master, but Clue Master is also not...
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    She was able to hold a book for roughly 100...

    She was able to hold a book for roughly 100 issues since Flashpoint (despite the often weak writing). And I'm pretty sure they will announce some form of Batgirl or Birds of Prey type book soon.

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    The difference is that Batgirl can have solo...

    The difference is that Batgirl can have solo stories, while the while as Oracle she need someone else (usually Black Canary) to be her legs.
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    Don't forget that Kate's Sister is also named...

    Don't forget that Kate's Sister is also named Beth, which makes the whole thing even more convoluted...
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    But would it be better with one of the other...

    But would it be better with one of the other Batgirls?
    Steph as Batgirl isn't that much different from Babs as Batgirl, and with Cass they seem to mostly redo her development from pre flashpoint.
  13. Nightwing didn't start in Blüdhaven until 2 years...

    Nightwing didn't start in Blüdhaven until 2 years after Zero Hour, around that time NTT got actually cancelled at and replace by the "1996 Titans" made up of entirely different characters.

    And at...
  14. I don't really see how Batman should have...

    I don't really see how Batman should have anything to do with the decay of NTT.
    Titans still had their own independent events post COIE (Titans Hunt and Total Chaos), while Batman was mostly in his...
  15. The problem with that is, that according to...

    The problem with that is, that according to Snyder DCEU Batman was retired for 10 years after the Death of Jason.

    With both Dick and Jason before that, Dick would have to be in his 30s and making...
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    At least if we are talking about the difference...

    At least if we are talking about the difference between Comichron Sales Numbers of DC vs. the ones of Marvel, it is pretty save to say that Moon Girl, Squirrel Girl and Ms Marvel are here not a...
  17. Snyders Batman was imo allready to old for that,...

    Snyders Batman was imo allready to old for that, since they would have technically also have to age up the rest of the Bat family and villains accordingly.
    Dick for example would have had to be...
  18. thing is by the time they could actually do Red...

    thing is by the time they could actually do Red Hood in the Pattison movies he would probaly to old for the role (and he is actually not much younger than Pattionson).

    Thats imo general kind of...
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    Marvel also relies mostly on their classic...

    Marvel also relies mostly on their classic characters when it comes to sales numbers.

    Both companies had rarely a lasting success with new characters.
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    Kathy did also offer her the mantle back in the...

    Kathy did also offer her the mantle back in the 70s when Barbara was a congress woman.
  21. Their main point seems to be that Jason should...

    Their main point seems to be that Jason should move past his trauma and that they should sort out his relation with Batman.

    That's something I can agree with.

    I also think that they need to...
  22. Imo the great stories ended with No Man's Land,...

    Imo the great stories ended with No Man's Land, already New Gotham and Bruce Wayne Murder were not that great (Ok War Games was far worse).

    The main reason for the sudden lack of consistency is...
  23. What stuff from the past would you like to see...

    What stuff from the past would you like to see addressed in Future comics?
    My list is:
    - does Jason have memories from pre crisis now?
    - the Box Damian wanted to use against Jason in Teen Titans...
  24. It is possible that the are doing something...

    It is possible that the are doing something similar as they did in Rebirth, were they iirc also spread the relaunch over 3 month and than had a second wave of books roughly half a year later.
  25. Unfortunatly gamer and comic buyers a different...

    Unfortunatly gamer and comic buyers a different demographics.

    RHatO was usually among the lowest selling Batfamily books, Nightwing and Batgirl sell usually better. How Damian sells is hard to...
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