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  1. Yeah but there are other times when the ideals do...

    Yeah but there are other times when the ideals do not run counter to her father and she is at least passively on board with the whole "wipe out most of the world's population" thing. And the last two...
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    If the Black Mercy fantasy requires tweaking to...

    If the Black Mercy fantasy requires tweaking to to suit another character better, than the story as written can only be done with Superman.

    Broad story beats like "hero gets trapped in an...
  3. Bruce falling for Talia has always been a little...

    Bruce falling for Talia has always been a little weird even before Morrison tbh. I know Bruce likes the "bad girls," but I can understand what draws him to Selina and Andrea (at least *before* she...
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    I think Ivy's dynamic with Harley has always been...

    I think Ivy's dynamic with Harley has always been healthier than with the Joker (low bar to clear), but I think fans have a tendency oversell how much healthier it is. Not you, I'm saying in general,...
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    No, but it gives them a little less ammo to use....

    No, but it gives them a little less ammo to use. I don't see how it helps the situation
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    Except this is a blanket statement, and you can't...

    Except this is a blanket statement, and you can't compare everything as if it was the same all the time. Batgod is an exaggeration that has gained traction and didn't have any in-universe history...
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    Peters was drawing Marston's (and Murchinson's)...

    Peters was drawing Marston's (and Murchinson's) scripts though? They seemed to have been on the same page, and while there is a lot of great stuff in the Golden Age WW, none of that stuff is among it.
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    Except nowhere did i say that Barry wouldn't be...

    Except nowhere did i say that Barry wouldn't be struck by lightning, the bat wouldn't fly through Bruce's window, that Diana wouldn't enter the Contest, etc. without Clark coming first.

    it's a...
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    I think both STAS and at least MoS did better...

    I think both STAS and at least MoS did better takes on post-COIE Superman than actual early post-COIE Superman.

    But it being post-COIE inspired over other versions also means it is inherently not...
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    I think a clutter Earth can work really well...

    I think a clutter Earth can work really well under certain circumstances. We've had some individual great runs that have utilized the concept. But DC trying to have it both ways with its reboots...
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    Yes, but it was Superman's success specifically...

    Yes, but it was Superman's success specifically that brought about and codified the genre.

    Like nobody except comic book historians know who the other people are. That isn't to say they aren't...
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    But he was first in-universe for a not...

    But he was first in-universe for a not insignificant length of time, like 50 years. And that status didn't stunt anyone else in-universe. At all. Yeah, in-universe most of them would have happened...
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    Because that isn't how it happened in actual...

    Because that isn't how it happened in actual publication history, and they had to do a reboot to get it to happen. It's mostly done to elevate the JSA by giving them the spot that used to be his (or...
  14. I'm familiar with Superman and Ultraman, and have...

    I'm familiar with Superman and Ultraman, and have grown cold on Snyder's superman the longer it went on (and learning about the possible full arc), but calling him Ultraman is hyperbole. In some ways...
  15. And that comment is wrong and undermining itself...

    And that comment is wrong and undermining itself with hyperbole, but it doesn't invalidate any other criticisms aimed at Snyder's Superman.
    It has received criticisms from people who have no idea...
  16. I don't know that there is a double standard with...

    I don't know that there is a double standard with everyone though.

    Those who criticize the DCEU, or at least the Snyder portions of it, aren't necessarily fans of everything the MCU does either.
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    There was also that he was helping to promote the...

    There was also that he was helping to promote the films. Remember that tv special where he was going over the different franchises with (I think) Kevin Smith, and they presented the Bohemian Rhapsody...
  18. I agree we would need to see more of her, but...

    I agree we would need to see more of her, but considering Weisman's experience with writing myth and folklore into plots (Gargoyles) and how awesome a show that is exclusively focused on one IP...
  19. I actually just ordered the Blu Ray set for...

    I actually just ordered the Blu Ray set for season 2 since I never got around to finishing it. I've been in a Weisman mood since I'm showing my roommates Gargoyles, with Spectacular Spider-Man also...
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    He may have been saying that during promotion to...

    He may have been saying that during promotion to make the company happy and not rock the boat, which would be understandable if he wanted to not burn bridges.

    But if Johns was brought in to change...
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    Where did Geoff proclaim himself the savior?...

    Where did Geoff proclaim himself the savior? Meanwhile, I'm seeing some of the typical "snake" talk that drove him off Twitter.

    Also lol:

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  22. The thing is, we need the success among the...

    The thing is, we need the success among the casuals to get more media. That's what keeps the characters alive. The Wednesday Warriors are an increasingly niche group, and successful other media...
  23. I think it's more the execution of the ideas that...

    I think it's more the execution of the ideas that left people cold, at least after BvS, than the ideas themselves.

    Like the New 52 t-shirt and jeans Superman was a controversial figure in-universe...
  24. That's...kind of what I'm saying though? General...

    That's...kind of what I'm saying though? General audiences don't care about faithful adaptations if the film is good because they don't read comics, and even fanboys can concede when they like a...
  25. I'm struggling to figure out how general...

    I'm struggling to figure out how general audiences were manipulated into feeling bad about the finger snap deaths despite knowing they would be reversed, but they presumably wouldn't be manipulated...
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