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  1. Thread: Superman #12

    by Jon Clark
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    See, the "matching" scenes in Superman and...

    See, the "matching" scenes in Superman and Supergirl actually pulled me out of the story as the details were so off. Who spoke changed. What was said changed. I was actually wishing for a more...
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    Krypton blowing up isn't a tragedy for Superman...

    Krypton blowing up isn't a tragedy for Superman any more than any other mass casualty disaster. He has no personal connection to the place, it was gone before it's existence ever registered on his...
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    For the sidekicks to reach adulthood the mentors...

    For the sidekicks to reach adulthood the mentors have to actually get older. DC has spent 80+ years rebooting Superman and Batman so that they can be eternally young stars of the DC line.

    Dick...
  4. Lois manages to pass her head cold onto Jon....

    Lois manages to pass her head cold onto Jon. Jon's hybrid immune system causes the cold to mutate into a strain that is fatal to Kryptonians. Superman is the first victim of the pandemic (followed...
  5. This is my preferred death for Bruce as well,...

    This is my preferred death for Bruce as well, though if it was known ahead of time I was killing him it'd be cool to set up one of those epics you describe just to subvert it by having Bruce die in...
  6. I agree. But those aren't something I'd describe...

    I agree. But those aren't something I'd describe as "relative". They'd be part of the "roots" along with the 1930's/40's stuff. Different from the era of Venom, Long Halloween, and Ten Nights of...
  7. That's not roots. That's favorite era or...

    That's not roots. That's favorite era or something.

    Roots is stripping the character down to basics or back to the original concept.

    You might get away with a later batman if you were taking...
  8. Yes, but with a lot of other solo hands clapping...

    Yes, but with a lot of other solo hands clapping (Krona, Spectre, Parallax/Hal, Pandora, Anti-Monitor, Ganthet, …)
  9. Manhattan will become yet another version of the...

    Manhattan will become yet another version of the hand Krona saw
  10. Except Brainiac has been an artificial life form...

    Except Brainiac has been an artificial life form since before Ultron's creator even thought about creating his "oedipal cyber-son".
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    I like Wally. I just don't think he is such a...

    I like Wally. I just don't think he is such a weak character that he can't co-exist with Barry. Or that he needs stories like Return of Barry Allen to give him meaning.

    You are the one who...
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    No, you can't keep Barry alive and have Wally...

    No, you can't keep Barry alive and have Wally cast as "better than "Barry" as his main characterization like we read it.. The point of a Return of Barry Allen in this revised timeline is to do just...
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    Things play out differently, sure. The point is...

    Things play out differently, sure. The point is that you can use the loss of Barry in the 20th to still motivate Wally to take up the role.

    Some stories are a little changed- Return of Barry...
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    You could have Barry's "death" in that if he...

    You could have Barry's "death" in that if he returned from the Crisis but not to the 20th century, he could be thought dead by Wally and others at least for a little while.
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    Got to add my vote to the hard total reboot. If...

    Got to add my vote to the hard total reboot. If they are going to do it, let's just do it right this time.

    It's Day One. You establish a basic rule where for x amount of time Superman and the...
  16. I'm kind of glad in retrospect to see some of...

    I'm kind of glad in retrospect to see some of these go.

    Great Krypton and even more Great Rao sound unnatural to me. Like Batman saying "Good Terra" or Diana exclaiming "Mighty Zeus" rather than...
  17. Luthor. I've come to really despise the...

    Luthor.

    I've come to really despise the post-Crisis take that Lex Luthor is a respected public figure. Give me the guy who was unapologetically a criminal.

    No LexCorp. No puppet-master of...
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    Part of the bad consequence is the lack of...

    Part of the bad consequence is the lack of equality of that good deed.

    Assuming we aren't taking the Silver-Age highest power levels and applying them as a 24/7 thing. You know the "If Superman...
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    Again to me it is semantics. Kal-El is just a...

    Again to me it is semantics.

    Kal-El is just a convenient label for him if you think that the person he truly is differs from either the Planet reporter or the world-saving hero. It's not about...
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    I agree with why 1956 makes sense. Just that to...

    I agree with why 1956 makes sense. Just that to my mind the Metaverse isn't resetting for the first time in 1940/1956 or staying stable until the Bronze Age. I picture small subtle shifts that...
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    Probably a mixed bag. The basic stuff would...

    Probably a mixed bag.
    The basic stuff would be DC from 1970-1985. Ends just before Crisis #1 and ignores any prior appearances of the Monitor.
    Some 1956-1970 stories included for all...
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    The only problem with that is that continuity has...

    The only problem with that is that continuity has rarely been static. So there were Earth-One elements like Superboy appearing as early as 1945 in print And contradictory stories from before 1956...
  23. I can see her not connecting the dots, except I...

    I can see her not connecting the dots, except I thought her knowledge (or at least Ra's) had been confirmed previously.

    I'll buy that Damian never outright stated it to her and that despite...
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    To me it's a game of semantics. There is a...

    To me it's a game of semantics. There is a person who I think of as the true person. It's the guy Lois married, the one who helped Jonathan Kent on the farm and the one who has the frenemy...
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    Anyone else notice the Metaverse Doctor Fate's...

    Anyone else notice the Metaverse Doctor Fate's origin and wonder if this was a retcon or just Manhattan simplifying it?
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