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  1. They count, but they're kind of cheap because...

    They count, but they're kind of cheap because there weren't any real risks creating them.



    It's really not the same still, so we'll have to agree to disagree on this.



    You are...
  2. I'm pretty sure we copied that from the Brits,...

    I'm pretty sure we copied that from the Brits, Jim, but I admit to being pretty ignorant on the subject beyond Goodbye Mr. Chips. :D
  3. Which is supported by Wikipedia and other...

    Which is supported by Wikipedia and other reference sites, FWIW. ;)



    ... and the Atom, the Hawks, Doctor Fate, Green Arrow, Flash and GL post-COIE, etc. All of those different variations...
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    Yeah, it was kind of dated thinking when I...

    Yeah, it was kind of dated thinking when I entered the work force back in the '80s and it's even more so now. I know some people like to keep things static story-wise, but superheroes have to keep up...
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    Latest Kindle books: today it's Christian...

    Latest Kindle books: today it's Christian Gellert's Last Christmas from German Tales (1869) by Berthold Auerbach. Tomorrow it will be Christian Poems Anthology (2018) by Paul Laurence Dunbar.
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    How can you fix the timeline when only Thawne...

    How can you fix the timeline when only Thawne gets to mess with it without penalties? We all know Barry can't do anything without disrupting things more. Of course, I assume that will be temporarily...
  7. Well, legacy was never broadly defined as such...

    Well, legacy was never broadly defined as such years ago. It was always the passing of the torch from one superhero to the next like Barry did to Wally when the former died. Now under that...
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    Flash should have no problem with any...

    Flash should have no problem with any supervillain with normal mental and physical speed in the comics. I mean, Captain Boomerang wouldn't be able to use any of his boomerangs if he's already tied up...
  9. A true legacy character is one who takes over...

    A true legacy character is one who takes over completely for another due to retirement or death. With that definition, only Carol and Scott truly qualify (though Carol only in the past decade, while...
  10. Actually, the original Human Torch within the MU...

    Actually, the original Human Torch within the MU was never known as such, so Johnny was the first with that moniker.
  11. Since Marvel hasn't been in the legacy business...

    Since Marvel hasn't been in the legacy business anywhere near as long as DC, maybe they might dump some of them down the road if they feel they're bogging down the universe. Which is why I posted a...
  12. The problem for some people is if two or more...

    The problem for some people is if two or more competing characters are around, then they stand as obstacles for your own favorite to succeed. Obviously, we grew up in a time where more the merrier...
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    New Kindle book: By the Christmas Fire (1908) by...

    New Kindle book: By the Christmas Fire (1908) by Samuel McChord Crothers.
  14. I agree no character should be disrespected...

    I agree no character should be disrespected (unless specifically written for that mission). That should be an universal truth. But being replaced by another character shouldn't be viewed by itself as...
  15. If the old characters come back, they're not...

    If the old characters come back, they're not going to be greeters at Wal-Mart or security guards at Target. :) They're either going to share the spotlight or take it over. But let me ask you this: if...
  16. If DC had decided to replace Wally, Kyle, etc....

    If DC had decided to replace Wally, Kyle, etc. with brand-new characters instead of the earlier ones, I'm pretty sure the hue and cry would have been just as loud from their fans. IMO, it's less to...
  17. I agree, Jim. If you're going to replace a...

    I agree, Jim. If you're going to replace a character, then make him/her fill in a spot missing ethnically, culturally, or gender-wise.
  18. Without COIE, what would the odds have been that...

    Without COIE, what would the odds have been that both Barry and Hal being replaced by two white guys (one who at the time was basically a red-headed clone of Barry)? Would Emerald Knight have been...
  19. Absolutely, but that's where the divisiveness...

    Absolutely, but that's where the divisiveness really started to coalesce. That things changed many years later doesn't erase what happened earlier. Maybe the fan squabbling would have occurred...
  20. If DC had handled things the same way they did...

    If DC had handled things the same way they did with Wally with the others, things might have been different (though probably not with the original replacement for Barry DC was thinking about). But...
  21. We all have our preferences for whatever reasons....

    We all have our preferences for whatever reasons. For me, it's the ones I grew up with during the Bronze Age. Still, I didn't stop reading and buying the comics of the ones replaced for new models....
  22. I'm with you, though Dick Grayson is a special...

    I'm with you, though Dick Grayson is a special case since Bruce Wayne is never going to be permanently replaced. With that said, if there were any real chance of it happening, a lot of Dick's fans...
  23. I haven't made an argument against legacies...

    I haven't made an argument against legacies beyond their abilities to split the fandom, though. Creatively, there's no reason why they can't work just fine.
  24. Why should my favorite have to be relegated to...

    Why should my favorite have to be relegated to that!!

    :)

    For some of us, that would be fine, but others would disagree. For them, it's either their favorite GL/Flash/Batgirl/Robin/etc. at the...
  25. Yeah, that would be way too juvenile for my...

    Yeah, that would be way too juvenile for my tastes.
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