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  1. Agree to disagree.

    Agree to disagree.
  2. Well, it will only change if they are exposed to...

    Well, it will only change if they are exposed to more mature animation.
  3. That still doesn't mean animation should only be...

    That still doesn't mean animation should only be for kids and families though.
  4. It still replaced what came before. It still...

    It still replaced what came before. It still ditched older continuity



    They still replaced it for a while, and it came back less because Zero Year was some insult to "continuity" and more just...
  5. I didn't literally mean they actually do an...

    I didn't literally mean they actually do an animated version of that series, more we need something like it. That type of thing.
  6. Yeah, as has been said there's nothing inferior...

    Yeah, as has been said there's nothing inferior about Western animation in terms of its ability to make you feel or tackle important issues, but the scope is limited. It's all family friendly...
  7. The difference is Walter White isn't in a 70+...

    The difference is Walter White isn't in a 70+ years old franchise based on him. He's in one series with a clear ending played by one actor. He doesn't have to still be around in 50 years. Hello Kitty...
  8. Not exactly, no. Year One was an origin story...

    Not exactly, no. Year One was an origin story that replaced an earlier story, throwing it out the window. I've never read it but isn't Joker's Five Way Revenge largely self contained and not...
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    I don't think there's a need. We know who...

    I don't think there's a need. We know who Superman is, he doesn't radically change outside of Elseworlds. Superman Doomsday, the two Superman Batman movies, JL Crisis on Two Earths, Superman vs the...
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    Yes, good writing is the most important thing -...

    Yes, good writing is the most important thing - but it seems like doing a shared universe really gets in the way of their writing somehow.



    It would also be kind of good if it didn't jump start...
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    Somehow I really, really doubt that has anything...

    Somehow I really, really doubt that has anything to do with the lack of shared continuity, but I see that you have your mind made up on it being connected somehow so whatever. I'm going to continue...
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    Yeah no, of course the earlier years featured the...

    Yeah no, of course the earlier years featured the most popular heroes to start with as they built up the brand and line, never mind the fact that they made fewer movies a year, and were focused on...
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    I really don't understand why you believe a...

    I really don't understand why you believe a shared universe somehow improves on diversity over standalones? The two have nothing in connection that I can tell, you can still do diversity in...
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    I think the Batman films suffered from it most,...

    I think the Batman films suffered from it most, and in the case of Superman nothing that elevated that film from previous attempts had anything to do with the shared continuity. The continuity merely...
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    Shame, I thought it was a blast. Very fun and...

    Shame, I thought it was a blast. Very fun and good action.
  16. 1. No worries, I often come across a bit rough...

    1. No worries, I often come across a bit rough without meaning to myself. I have been trying to work on it though.

    2. Fair enough - however largely the discussion that some stories are famous for...
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    What we've had though hasn't been all that great....

    What we've had though hasn't been all that great. A few movies were shared universe that shouldn't have been.
  18. That's what I was trying to suggest when I...

    That's what I was trying to suggest when I responded to you, because how you worded what came before did not sound like this. The earlier post gave the impression that continuity would be the big...
  19. 1. Your first paragraph really doesn't need to be...

    1. Your first paragraph really doesn't need to be dripping in sarcasm and condescension does it?

    2. I never meant to imply that those stories didn't still get referenced or didn't still matter to...
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    Eh, if the movie is good and he's having fun and...

    Eh, if the movie is good and he's having fun and not being gloomy about it, the audience will like it.
  21. I don't know, if the mainline comics go to far...

    I don't know, if the mainline comics go to far into old continuity and aimed at just the hard core fan, then anyone trying to move from the Scholastic books to the main books will be put off -...
  22. It isn't, but it sure as heck seems like it...

    It isn't, but it sure as heck seems like it though in recent years, doesn't it?
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    I think it has less to do with the farm boy thing...

    I think it has less to do with the farm boy thing and more how to do a simple plot that would hold it back. His Superman can work, but someone else needs to do the plot.
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    Like I said, I actually like how he writes the...

    Like I said, I actually like how he writes the character of Superman, it's just all the "story/plot" and how it's presented I hate - I never even made it to the 5D imps, I just read the volume 1...
  25. I don't think so, not unless it's at the very end...

    I don't think so, not unless it's at the very end and they're saving it as a surprise? He wasn't in the trailer, which is odd if he was in it I think. But I don't know...
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