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An interesting point came up earlier in the thread - should Wolverine be part of the team in the first X-men reboot film?

I actually think, for a number of reasons, it might not be the worst idea...

Yeah, I loved those as well. Mind you, I was a kid so my standards weren't the highest...but the standards for superhero films in general weren't the highest back then anyway :p

Precisely the problem I have with people taking the 'mutant metaphor' too literally and applying it to a specific real-world faultline (in this case, race). Especially in the polarized times we live...

Yeah. These are pretty light, episodic tales set during an era of relatively light stories and minimal serialization so I don't think 'canon' becomes too much of an issue either way. They also have...

I seriously doubt we're gonna get the O5 (except maybe in flashbacks or a prequel Disney+ series or whatever if the X-men are already well-established in the present-day). Most likely we'll get...

At this point, do Batman and Superman have 100% definitive origins anymore? I think Batman's is mostly a mishmash of Year One and Zero Year, and Superman's is...Secret Origin? MOS? Bit of both?
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IIRC, Lorna was part of the X-men, and that's how she and Bobby met. They both left the team together, but then Lorna eventually disappeared, which is what kicks off the episode's plot in the...

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I read a little of HoX/PoX, and stuff from around the time of Schism and AvX and there's definitely some great stuff there...but to me, the X-men fundamentally belong to...

...and did that continue to influence your preferences with regards to the franchise?

I was first introduced to the X-men through X-men Evolution in the early 2000's, and I do think that show...

Yeah, the Angel situation was weird. I think when the show started they didn't give much thought to the X-men's backstories, and the idea that the team had a long history prior to Jubilee joining...

My headcanon is that in the TAS continuity, Kitty used to be a member of the X-men, briefly, at some point in the past...leaving open the room for her to return as an adult former X-man in the...

I dunno how they came to include Kitty in Evolution...will definitely be worth looking up! My guess is that since they were doing a teenage X-men show, and Kitty had been one of the most prominent...

Yeah, I got started on the X-men with Evolution, so Kitty has always been more familiar to me than Jubilee and I loved seeing her in X3 and DOFP. Incidentially, I think Jubilee was barely a presence...

A lot of this is news for me. I'd actually totally forgotten she even was in Apocalypse. I don't even remember her cameos in the earlier films...think I vaguely remembered seeing her in X1?
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Maybe Jubilee will be introduced as the POV character in the upcoming X-men film ala the TAS?

Jubilee's also the one TAS X-man who didn't really have a counterpart in the Fox movies, barring some...

I guess it also depends on exactly when The Wolverine is set? If its set around 2007/08 (based on Yukio's line that she's been trying to find Logan for "over a year"), then you can argue that Logan...

Loved those Color series! A Wolverine one would have been great.



Amazing how his performances encompass the vast history and wide range of depictions of the character.

You've got Wolverine...

The context of the line was Storm asking Logan if his loyalties lay with Jean or with the team. And while Logan is still drawn to Jean, he ultimately chooses the team, and commits to killing Jean if...

I think its long been the case that the X-men reboot would be heavily inspired by the TAS, even before the success of X-men '97. Xavier in MoM felt like a kind of blend of Xavier from the Fox movies...

If nothing else...the art design of this film is f#cking awe-inspiring :cool:

That said, I'm certain Pheonix will deliver another Oscar-worthy performance, and Gaga will do a brilliant job...

Fascinating! Need to check this out.

Does Superman appear at all, or is this pure 100% 'street-level'?





I suppose maybe this stuff could be set in the same continuity as the DKR...

Damn, I loved that series. Probably my earliest exposure to the O5 era.

Fresh from watching X-men Evolution, the first two movies, a few episodes of the TAS, and a few sundry comics, I was shocked...

I dunno about more popular than ever. The peak of the franchise was probably the early-to-mid 2000's. The TAS was a recent memory. The original films were taking the world by storm. The comics were...

Leaving aside the many issues with taking the 'mutant metaphor' too literally as a metaphor for any particular minority group, I think the the big fallacy with this argument is an assumption that...

Yeah.

I think with regards to Krypton, there's a tendency for him to either know nothing, or to then know everything. There are very few versions where he knows very little, but gradually pieces...