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  1. There is no such thing as male fridging, really....

    There is no such thing as male fridging, really. Or rather, it is is not actually a pervasive or frequent problem. It is that pervasiveness that caused Gail Simome to generate the term.

    But...
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    Congrats, dude! He wanted Jean suicidal...

    Congrats, dude!




    He wanted Jean suicidal because Cyke wasn't around. Awful take to go along with his awful Phoenix story lol. You can see where he wanted to go with her in his Astonishing...
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    Is the "prime host" thing true in today's...

    Is the "prime host" thing true in today's continuity?
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    She has appeared often, I will say that. As for...

    She has appeared often, I will say that.
    As for Cyclops, that IS why she's in the book lol.

    What would have been refreshing for me was Jean sticking it out in the more interesting roles she had...
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    What is indicating a great change? Fighting...

    What is indicating a great change? Fighting Maddie and/or Cyclops' other evil exes isn't new as it's pretty much the only story she gets, she appeared in HoxPox and that only meant something...
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    I hope the repression angle is an actual thing...

    I hope the repression angle is an actual thing Duggan intended but IDK. That tweet kinda puts his take on the character in more doubt for me.

    As far as Jean feats go, I would pay a premium to have...
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    Yikes. A "Dark Phoenix wasn't Jean" take does not...

    Yikes. A "Dark Phoenix wasn't Jean" take does not bode well for the character.

    If DP wasn't Jean, then the Saga is just a mindless action story. That capacity for darkness is important to the...
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    She has her husband's other wives for that. What...

    She has her husband's other wives for that. What more does a superhero need?






    Agreed, the art was great.
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    I don't think there is any large narrative...

    I don't think there is any large narrative planned for her specifically. It's likely that, as with the tree house, her story and status quo will be that she's there for whatever major story they have...
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    It seemed like Duggan maybe hinted at a new...

    It seemed like Duggan maybe hinted at a new costume on Twitter a while back. If it wasn't for that, I would say some of us are reading too much into a couple of intentionally undefined figures.
  11. I forgot I was supposed to be at war with the...

    I forgot I was supposed to be at war with the silly "Jishop" people.

    The name is BEAN. Get it right.
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    Eh. To be fair, she is kinda outranked in terms...

    Eh. To be fair, she is kinda outranked in terms of status in the comics. Not that she's "beneath" those in terms of their qualities as characters, but she did get taken down a few pegs in how she is...
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    Agree with this. I want her in the field so they...

    Agree with this. I want her in the field so they can show her slinging stuff around with her TK (which we never see lol smh).

    Storm and Jean should definitely be running things, but also alongside...
  14. Oh the rage if she was banging all three and it...

    Oh the rage if she was banging all three and it was acknowledged on panel, lol I can only imagine. I very much wish. Or even better, just Logan and Bishop.

    Also, I have to note that they haven't...
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    Haters want you to forget that Xavier chose...

    Haters want you to forget that Xavier chose Phoenix Jean to be his successor.

    It is a shame that Morrison killed her because he really set up so much potentially interesting change for her.
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    They have said why she is in that old costume. ...

    They have said why she is in that old costume.

    As for the Mark Brooks teaser, I don't know how much stock we are supposed to put in that. Think it's mostly random more than it is hints toward...
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    I don't get what you mean. Why do you say the...

    I don't get what you mean. Why do you say the other books relaunching necessarily means changes for Jean?
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    I don't think they will relaunch X-Men. It just...

    I don't think they will relaunch X-Men. It just started.
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    He was going behind the team's back. X-Force...

    He was going behind the team's back. X-Force doesn't exist to the outside but the teammates should be in the know on everything.
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    I'm not sure it's a minority, tbh.

    I'm not sure it's a minority, tbh.
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    They haven't really been boyfriend/girlfriend...

    They haven't really been boyfriend/girlfriend though, have they? I think they have sadly had that one extended conversation in the pool.

    Where Percy actually messed up was fridging her in the...
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    Can you do a good morally gray book without...

    Can you do a good morally gray book without someone to stir a little bit of white into the black? There's no conflict if everyone is 100% unreserved about doing the dark stuff.
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    Exactly, 12! 1. To keep Hank in check. 2....

    Exactly, 12!

    1. To keep Hank in check.

    2. To get her hands dirty like a rounded character instead of a caricature.

    3. To have her doing the tough stuff others don't want to or can't. She...
  24. Let's hope not.

    Let's hope not.
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    To me it feels regressive. I also abhor the idea...

    To me it feels regressive. I also abhor the idea that Jean isn't involved in the "state secrets" type of stuff. It's kinda childish. Her role in X-Force/the Council made sense because she could be...
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