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    Yeah, here, she's only as fast as she's actually...

    Yeah, here, she's only as fast as she's actually shown to be. Which is a statue compared to Superman. And one hit from him would turn her into a fine red mist.

    Like... For frame of reference,...
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    I'd certainly agree that if post crisis Diana...

    I'd certainly agree that if post crisis Diana isn't as strong as the gal Kryptonians she's close enough for it not to matter. There's a pretty good fight by Gail Simone between the two. It show cases...
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    So the thing about Superman is that for the last...

    So the thing about Superman is that for the last 30 years some writers treat him as being head and shoulders above any other member of the Justice League. Post crisis, this wasn't really the case....
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    I'd definitely put J'onn below Diana post crisis....

    I'd definitely put J'onn below Diana post crisis. At the very least, they are close enough for Diana's skill to win out in a fight where J'onn doesn't use his other powers. Of course, with his other...
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    Honestly Adam and Shazam seem a lot closer to...

    Honestly Adam and Shazam seem a lot closer to Thor in both physical stats and general power set these days. So I think Jiren is probably faster and can one shot them. Adam might be able to transmute...
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    No, it actually has. Vegeta vs Magetta. Just went...

    No, it actually has. Vegeta vs Magetta. Just went and watched the fight so I wasn't relying on other people's recaps. Vegeta is put into a semi sealed environment against a fire breathing robot. He...
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    Isn't burning away all the oxygen around a saiyan...

    Isn't burning away all the oxygen around a saiyan a proven strategy?
  8. One thing that I don't think should be undersold...

    One thing that I don't think should be undersold here is the the vehicle pushing feat. It isn't just that she pushed an armored vehicle at 60 mph or whatever. She pushed it perpendicular to the road....
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    You have this weird tendency to take someone who...

    You have this weird tendency to take someone who agrees with you on a particular point and then try to argue with them about something they haven't actually said they disagree with you about. That's...
  10. Yeah, but I didn't say any of those things. So I...

    Yeah, but I didn't say any of those things. So I dunno why you're trying to argue with me about it. All I've done in this thread is point out the best clean feat of the movie and offer a possible...
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    Without touching Supergirl or Powergirl, I do...

    Without touching Supergirl or Powergirl, I do think it is worth noting that mystical is right about Shazam. In post Flash Point Superman has a lot less physical peers than post crisis Supes did....
  12. I specifically didn't address the lightning...

    I specifically didn't address the lightning thing. I don't care enough to weigh into this shit show about the lightning thing. Not sure why you're quoting me. It is a weird feat and I don't feel...
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    And yet things like heart disease and lack of air...

    And yet things like heart disease and lack of air can still kill them. It is weird.
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    I don't think it has been referenced for a couple...

    I don't think it has been referenced for a couple decades, no.
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    Without even touching on the merit of Batman's...

    Without even touching on the merit of Batman's claim... What does Wonder Woman being faster than Superman have to do with Kori? She isn't Wonder Woman.
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    So is the arena just essentially on a vacuum?...

    So is the arena just essentially on a vacuum? That's fine if so, but is not how I ever pictured it. In fact, I always assumed it was modeled after a specific place in Star Trek for some reason until...
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    I am pretty sure the arena is named after...

    I am pretty sure the arena is named after something from a fictional setting, possible a roleplaying game. Most fiction settings have a sun, so I don't see any reason to assume this one doesn't any...
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    The Atom killed Darkseid in one timeline. But his...

    The Atom killed Darkseid in one timeline. But his shrinking powers are a lot crazier than just being ant sized. Specifically, he surfed a photon through Darkseid's eyes and into his brain and then...
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    Yeah, I'm not entirely sure how to calculate ant...

    Yeah, I'm not entirely sure how to calculate ant speed vs light speed, but I have an easier time imagining the ant crossing that threshold than planet benching.
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    Well Goku is a lot faster at least.

    Well Goku is a lot faster at least.
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    Like, it can not be understated how broken modern...

    Like, it can not be understated how broken modern Superman is. He destroys planets by jumping off of the when he's almost out of power. He shatters chains used to tow stars around. He benches the...
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    The class system becomes meaningless past a...

    The class system becomes meaningless past a certain point, and Superman is definitely past that point. Also, he's definitely never fought Ben Grimm, so...

    Current Superman hangs out on a planet as...
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    What does Ben Grimm have to do with anything?

    What does Ben Grimm have to do with anything?
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    Yes, exactly. You are comparing 100,000,000 ...

    Yes, exactly. You are comparing

    100,000,000

    To


    5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000.

    That's the weight of the earth and benching that isn't even a taxing workout for modern Supes.
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    Would it? This seems a lot weaker than Jupiter...

    Would it? This seems a lot weaker than Jupiter Gorilla. This isn't the Earth's weight in ants, it is all the ants on Earth. Which is a lot of ants but like... Could every ant on the planet pooled...
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