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  1. Bette Kane first appeared in 1961. There was...

    Bette Kane first appeared in 1961.

    There was also Bat-Mite in the 50s, Man-Bat in the 70s and Azrael in the 90s.
  2. What I still find wired is the costume design,...

    What I still find wired is the costume design, non of costumes looked really like the comics counterpart, and in case of Harley (and Cass) they completely departed from her established colour scheme....
  3. Batman is DCs top seller, who can easily carry...

    Batman is DCs top seller, who can easily carry several books, Black Panther and Aquaman are sales wise usually just slightly above the threshold of what a book needs to sell to keep going.
    Which...
  4. It might be surprising but thats actually the...

    It might be surprising but thats actually the case, at least if we are speaking about reoccurring villains that are somewhat relevant.
    And even most of his "major" villains, like Merlyn and Vertigo...
  5. Green Arrow has barely any villains.

    Green Arrow has barely any villains.
  6. In is directed at completely different...

    In is directed at completely different demographic then the main line comics and they have mostly recruited YA-Novelist to write these books.
    If they put those writers on the main books, they would...
  7. The thing is that most other franchises are just...

    The thing is that most other franchises are just not big enough to support that many characters. And 4 robins seems much, but these characters among the most successful characters DC has.

    Btw....
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    Feats are often nor really a good metric,...

    Feats are often nor really a good metric, especially if it is just one feat, since the best (and worst) feats of a character are often PIS.
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    Did the ever fight? That imo more a proof for...

    Did the ever fight?

    That imo more a proof for the shitty treatment of Tim and Jason in Batfamily-Events then for Damians fighting skills.
  10. https://www.deviantart.com/glee-chan/art/Jason-Tod...

    https://www.deviantart.com/glee-chan/art/Jason-Todd-830495065
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    I think Slade is not good for comparison since he...

    I think Slade is not good for comparison since he is to inconsistently written.
    If he is written on the top end of the spectrum the only Batfamily member that should have chance is Azrael (when he...
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    Imo Dick and Jason should be roughly on the same...

    Imo Dick and Jason should be roughly on the same level as Bruce.

    I would put him actually above Canary, she doesn't really has that many impressive showings as martial artist imo, especially in...
  13. @Dark_Tzitzimine thaks. The time line is still...

    @Dark_Tzitzimine thaks.

    The time line is still wired. DitF happend after Killing Joke and it is even referenced in the story it self.

    And it looks imo to decompressed.
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    Those comics were set in the DCAU-Continuity...

    Those comics were set in the DCAU-Continuity while the current Batman Beyond Comic is set in an possible future of the cuurent comics continuity.
    Thats why Damian and Jason were Robin in the current...
  15. Imo he was also not a great character, and how he...

    Imo he was also not a great character, and how he is written just doesn't match his back ground.
    I mean he was basically raised like a clone trooper but he is not really acting like that (and the...
  16. He is in the live action show.

    He is in the live action show.
  17. The books exist because of the movie. And I...

    The books exist because of the movie.

    And I don't think that the comic part of DC had much say in the movie.

    And honestly I still think that they went for Birds of Prey for the movie was that...
  18. You will find lots of similar stuff in Batfamily...

    You will find lots of similar stuff in Batfamily stories like the Eternals or Robin War.

    Examples were Jason is shown to be competent on the other hand are super rare in those stories.
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    Jason was at least holding back against Damian...

    Jason was at least holding back against Damian and was iirc mostly just defending himself until Damian tried to use this box against him, and we have still no idea what was in that box.

    Bruce...
  20. It is not that bad but it is also not great (and...

    It is not that bad but it is also not great (and I wouldn't have such a big problem if it wasn't always like that if he appears in a Batfamily story).

    I'm just sick of these Jason is reckless,...
  21. He drinks, is a jerk, must be saved and is not...

    He drinks, is a jerk, must be saved and is not included in the family photo.
    Pretty much standard treatment of him by the Batoffice.
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    To me the whole interaction sounds more like it...

    To me the whole interaction sounds more like it was Damians own idea, and that Jason was just OK with it. Not like Jason told to do it or how to do it.
    And that Jason had reached out now to give him...
  23. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jutkNkVgXQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jutkNkVgXQ
  24. Captain America is a pretty good example for the...

    Captain America is a pretty good example for the Problem with the mantles.
    As long as Sam Wilson went by Captain America his book sold (even the numbers were not that great), even when Steve...
  25. Honestly I don't think that Stephanie was that...

    Honestly I don't think that Stephanie was that close to Alfred, and imo even Barbara is out of place there.


    When it comes to Birds of Prey, I think that IP is in a pretty bad shape and they need...
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