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  1. The bottom line is official works are gonna suck...

    The bottom line is official works are gonna suck this year once The Old Beginning gets underway, so we'll be getting our good news from fandom and fan work until The Old Beginning is done crashing...
  2. If I was coveredinbees I would simply post within...

    If I was coveredinbees I would simply post within 4 years regardless.
  3. It certainly explains Lorna’s treatment over time...

    It certainly explains Lorna’s treatment over time as punishment for daring to be more feminist on introduction for her time than other women around.
  4. I too wish to say trollish things that...

    I too wish to say trollish things that conveniently support the company’s current plans on threads I don’t normally post in.
  5. Before 2020, I would've said yes. Today, no. ...

    Before 2020, I would've said yes. Today, no.

    Two specific things happened in 2020 involving Lorna and X-Factor that have made me deeply opposed to Lorna forced onto the team. First and foremost,...
  6. Yeah I have like zero faith in any of what's...

    Yeah I have like zero faith in any of what's coming, not just specifically for Lorna but for the entire franchise and every character in it. I think this whole period is one where we're just gonna...
  7. They should really just call it an old beginning,...

    They should really just call it an old beginning, because efforts at nostalgia baiting for the 90s as synergy with the cartoon are very apparent.
  8. Poof and I'm here. This ultimately speaks...

    Poof and I'm here.



    This ultimately speaks more to the rampant sexism within comic fandom of the time than about how Lorna's depiction. Someone with a more empathetic view to Lorna and her...
  9. Everything is ultimately a narrative, about...

    Everything is ultimately a narrative, about perspectives. From whose point of view is a certain depiction representing who the characters are? Who decided certain things are a character’s core...
  10. It's very possible for Lorna's situation to be a...

    It's very possible for Lorna's situation to be a net negative even if she's on a team where prior relationships are recognized. Lorna written as stupid just so possessed Siryn could control her and...
  11. The key problems for Lorna regarding X-Factor are...

    The key problems for Lorna regarding X-Factor are nostalgia, character/theme mismatch, and perception of what it means for a character to be on that specific team.

    For the past decade, the X-Men...
  12. If Lorna is in another relationship, the key...

    If Lorna is in another relationship, the key thing anyone writing her has to be careful of is to not make it a repeat of the past dynamic with Havok.

    The stuff under Jordan White's purview had...
  13. Back to the Polaris and Havok stuff for a moment,...

    Back to the Polaris and Havok stuff for a moment, because I feel like I have something to say.

    I see a potential path for that relationship to work down the road. However, that path isn't the...
  14. I've generally been fine with the idea of Lorna...

    I've generally been fine with the idea of Lorna having bipolar disorder. However, if people are gonna use it as a way to de-legitimize her actions and act like she has no agency or principles, if...
  15. She's hot, what more reason do you need? :P

    She's hot, what more reason do you need? :P
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    “Coffee breaks: they save lives!”

    “Coffee breaks: they save lives!”
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    My thoughts copied and pasted from the Polaris...

    My thoughts copied and pasted from the Polaris thread.

    Obviously I loved it. I wish Lorna had more scenes, but I think any fan of any character always wishes they could have more. The scenes she...
  18. Obviously I loved it. I wish Lorna had more...

    Obviously I loved it. I wish Lorna had more scenes, but I think any fan of any character always wishes they could have more. The scenes she did have were great.

    I like that she called herself the...
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    I’m not, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if she...

    I’m not, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if she did.

    That said, this is the first time in a while that I DON’T feel like Lorna’s being given a moment just so the X-books have cover to screw her...
  20. Okay thanks. So, not first “love interest,” but...

    Okay thanks. So, not first “love interest,” but first mutant/powered one.
  21. Fair, that he’s saying that now. Though I think...

    Fair, that he’s saying that now. Though I think he wasn’t of that view for most of his time as editor, based on how so many stories were done while he was editor.
  22. Was she created and introduced before Lorna was?...

    Was she created and introduced before Lorna was? Because if she was made after Lorna, that’s what I meant by first. She’s not his first in-universe, but I was under the impression she was his first...
  23. Hate is a loaded word. I'm strongly opposed to...

    Hate is a loaded word. I'm strongly opposed to it.

    The history of their relationship is, for the most part, a really bad one for Lorna. When Lorna was created, before Havok, she had her own...
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    I'm really glad to know the history of mutant...

    I'm really glad to know the history of mutant attempts to take on Orchis. That's something I wouldn't otherwise know because I haven't read X-Men books aside from the ones good for Lorna.

    Knowing...
  25. I posted the below over in the X-Men Monday...

    I posted the below over in the X-Men Monday thread. I'm not quote posting because of the AIPT quote within it.

    This part stuck out. Omitting the responses of other people in between the question...
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