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Cell also sat around and let his enemies train to pose a challenging threat to him to prove his own superiority. Letting the kids fuse would be entirely in character for him. BUT! The fight doesn't...

I think Vegeta becoming a doting husband and admitting that Saiyans.are biologically wired to sub to women might be the most endearing part of Super. It shows more character growth than anyone else...

Well he's certainly stronger than Luke Cage, who can thunderclap someone across a room. But I dunno if he can stun a bunch of tough mutants with healing factors with it.

Depends on how hard he can throw the knives, I guess.

The team has the best shot in the arena, I think. If Aquman can swing trees or cars around, they will have a dickens of a time getting close enough for stabbing. And Aquaman can Hulk jump onto...

Huh, I dunno why I conflated those.

Yeah, I almost mentioned this as a relevant consideration but AFAIK that only applied to removing it from the stone, and any rake could use it afterwards. Where as Mjolnir has a barrier of entry to...

The thing is that with Marvel Mjolnir in the mix, the wielder actually becomes Thor. So the only real issue is if the wielder would be worthy of it, which I feel like would be assumed by the nature...

Well the Mother Storm Mjolnir seems like the bar to clear right now.

Darkseid actually used the internet and a watered down anti life equation to take over half the Earth during Final Crisis. And as the duck pointed out he already has one planet locked in. I'd have to...

Correct. In his first appearance Darkseid launched his beams at Clark and Barry. Barry managed to escape by phasing through someone else at the last moment, but ran so hard he was winded for the...

I'm not sure if Nu has mental resistance feats, but I do recall he displayed some passive power absorption which leaves it questionable what will and won't work on him.


Post crisis... I wanna...

Yeah, but that also included repairing all the damage they were doing as they were doing it and flying around. At high speeds, and breaking the Surfer's board.

It also seems worth noting that I...

No starting weapons. Spider is making a ruckus in a bar and Vimes needs to stop him.

Round 1: The two fight sober, or as close to sober as Spider gets.

Round 2: The two fight out of their...

Yeah, here, she's only as fast as she's actually shown to be. Which is a statue compared to Superman. And one hit from him would turn her into a fine red mist.

Like... For frame of reference,...

I'd certainly agree that if post crisis Diana isn't as strong as the gal Kryptonians she's close enough for it not to matter. There's a pretty good fight by Gail Simone between the two. It show cases...

So the thing about Superman is that for the last 30 years some writers treat him as being head and shoulders above any other member of the Justice League. Post crisis, this wasn't really the case....

I'd definitely put J'onn below Diana post crisis. At the very least, they are close enough for Diana's skill to win out in a fight where J'onn doesn't use his other powers. Of course, with his other...

Honestly Adam and Shazam seem a lot closer to Thor in both physical stats and general power set these days. So I think Jiren is probably faster and can one shot them. Adam might be able to transmute...

No, it actually has. Vegeta vs Magetta. Just went and watched the fight so I wasn't relying on other people's recaps. Vegeta is put into a semi sealed environment against a fire breathing robot. He...

Isn't burning away all the oxygen around a saiyan a proven strategy?

One thing that I don't think should be undersold here is the the vehicle pushing feat. It isn't just that she pushed an armored vehicle at 60 mph or whatever. She pushed it perpendicular to the road....

You have this weird tendency to take someone who agrees with you on a particular point and then try to argue with them about something they haven't actually said they disagree with you about. That's...

Yeah, but I didn't say any of those things. So I dunno why you're trying to argue with me about it. All I've done in this thread is point out the best clean feat of the movie and offer a possible...

Without touching Supergirl or Powergirl, I do think it is worth noting that mystical is right about Shazam. In post Flash Point Superman has a lot less physical peers than post crisis Supes did....