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    There's a reason why, at least up until the 80's,...

    There's a reason why, at least up until the 80's, he was viewed as a Top 2-3 "Big Gun" in the 616 alongside Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange and Hulk.
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    Both you and Cronus are highlighting a trait that...

    Both you and Cronus are highlighting a trait that has gone by the wayside in recent decades, and that is editorial discipline. Inconsistencies with the character were not nearly as prevalent from...
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    I've thought in the past perhaps they need to...

    I've thought in the past perhaps they need to give Thor some sort of human alter-ego a la Donald Blake or Jake Olson. But instead of rehashing a decades-old idea I would play up on Thor's birthright...
  4. People would start crying that the latter group...

    People would start crying that the latter group are "too overpowered." It's like a narrative tug of war, except the street-levelers have been winning for more than a decade.
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    Arguing a fight between Thor and Hulk is sort of...

    Arguing a fight between Thor and Hulk is sort of meaningless anymore. Most of the time it ends in some sort of stalemate with either character having "the upper hand." Certain writers who prefer...
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    I would disagree because it creates narrative...

    I would disagree because it creates narrative inconsistencies from creative team to creative team, among other things. Like others have said, it's a bit ridiculous for Thor to fly through the sun...
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    Editorial discipline going by the wayside (as...

    Editorial discipline going by the wayside (as well as essentially tossing out continuity) is what has caused the downward spiral of superhero storytelling, IMO. The cherry on top was Quesada's...
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    Uncle Walt's run was still quite seminal. But,...

    Uncle Walt's run was still quite seminal. But, yes, there were other excellent runs. Stan and Jack (probably on par with Fantastic Four and Dr. Strange in the 60's), Roy Thomas/Buscema/Pollard, and...
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    I certainly don't mind phasing out the...

    I certainly don't mind phasing out the Shakespearean English from his vernacular. I think JMS and especially Hickman get his dialogue right. It's very proper English with a rich vocabulary, but...
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    It's not hatred, but it's perhaps a stable of...

    It's not hatred, but it's perhaps a stable of creators who are ill-equipped to handle conceptual cosmic fantasy and mythical and/or mystical characters. When in doubt, they try as much to "humanize"...
  11. This would've been a fascinating take in the Thor...

    This would've been a fascinating take in the Thor movies in the MCU, but they went with the whole "aliens" route and neutered Asgard.
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    I'd argue since 2007 when Thor returned it's been...

    I'd argue since 2007 when Thor returned it's been mostly a mixed bag of narrative quality and characterization. IMO, the highlights are slowly becoming overshadowed by the lows, but that could be...
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    Different strokes, I guess. The formula wore...

    Different strokes, I guess. The formula wore thin for me, personally.
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    The one interesting tidbit about that narration...

    The one interesting tidbit about that narration was how being a god was portrayed as far as aging and memory are concerned. It gives some reverence to the mythological aspect of Thor (and gods in...
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    I can only speak for myself but I work hard for...

    I can only speak for myself but I work hard for my cash, I haven't bought a comic book in ages. The style of writing for superhero stories doesn't really speak to me.
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    The problem of superhero comics in the last 20...

    The problem of superhero comics in the last 20 years is this exact phrase that Cates stated in that interview;

    "He'll be as powerful as the plot requires him to be." Therein lies the problem. A...
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    I wouldn't get too wrapped up into power levels. ...

    I wouldn't get too wrapped up into power levels. Editorial discipline went by the wayside around the time of the late 80s and into the 90s so things like this became ever more reliant on the...
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    Eh, it's the constant obsession with humanizing...

    Eh, it's the constant obsession with humanizing him and desperately trying to make him "relatable." From speech pattern to actions to reactions to emphasizing or outright embellishing character...
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    The inherent flaw of modern superhero...

    The inherent flaw of modern superhero storytelling. Humanize them as much as possible which has the negative effect of de-mystifying them. Especially when handling non-humans.
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    Feige now in charge of publishing? Oh boy.

    Feige now in charge of publishing? Oh boy.
  21. He was great with characterization. As far as...

    He was great with characterization. As far as plotting it's widely acknowledged that Kirby, Ditko and Romita Sr. had heavy hands in it. In my humble opinion, the stuff Stan did with Jack on the FF...
  22. Stan Lee, Roy Thomas, Jim Starlin, Walt Simonson,...

    Stan Lee, Roy Thomas, Jim Starlin, Walt Simonson, Kurt Busiek, John Byrne and Roger Stern off the top of my head. Claremont and Conway were also great.
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    Braggadocio isn't necessarily an inherently...

    Braggadocio isn't necessarily an inherently negative trait, especially in battle. It would be natural for a being that powerful (and old!) who has witnessed and experienced things that a normal...
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    Marvel has more like a "Big Six" Spider-Man...

    Marvel has more like a "Big Six"

    Spider-Man
    Hulk
    Wolverine
    Captain America
    Iron Man
    Thor

    The first three of this group are their most popular consistently throughout history, whereas the...
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    Many would say the 80's was the culmination of...

    Many would say the 80's was the culmination of what Stan and Jack started in the 60's. I sort of agree from a continuous storytelling perspective. Hence we got some of the greatest ever creative...
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