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    Poll: But that's typically not how it is portrait in...

    But that's typically not how it is portrait in the comics.

    I don't see Dinah really getting much more opportunity to train than Bruce, and can anyway not properly train without a good sparing...
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    Poll: They should imo pretty evenly matched, I would...

    They should imo pretty evenly matched, I would see Jason ahead due to his LoA and All Caste Training (but I'm biased).

    And realisticly Dick should actually be in a pretty poor physical condition...
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    Poll: I any way not sure if one should really put these...

    I any way not sure if one should really put these characters on these lists.

    I mean Richard Dragon spend basically (I think with exception of one fight in Birds of Prey) the whole post...
  4. We will see to me it looks for the moment like...

    We will see to me it looks for the moment like most characters will despite having the memories back, not really substantially change from pre Death Metal.

    And I'm really wondering how "all...
  5. Not really I doubt she would have been as...

    Not really I doubt she would have been as successful as she was without being Batgirl.
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    Poll: He got also training by the All Caste. Btw....

    He got also training by the All Caste.

    Btw. even pre Flashpoint he was usually pretty equally matched with Dick in their fights.

    But it is pretty dependent on the writer, some really like to...
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    Poll: At least right Death Metal Wildcat (and Dinahs...

    At least right Death Metal Wildcat (and Dinahs connection to the JSA) and Richard Dragon didn't exist in the current continuity and there was no mentioning of Shiva training her post flashpoint.
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    Poll: Black Canary gets really overrated imo,...

    Black Canary gets really overrated imo, especially in the current continuity.

    She doesn't really have the kind of special training that the others have, and not many really impressive feats.
  9. And Dick was 21 back then, that would make her...

    And Dick was 21 back then, that would make her 15-17.

    But if we are looking at the last book she was in (Batman and the Outsiders), she was treated as being roughly the same age and "rank" as...
  10. Not by much, at least in the 70s version. Mal...

    Not by much, at least in the 70s version.

    Mal is pretty bland, had poorly defined powers (once he got them), and could never really stick to an identity. And Bumblebee wasn't really doing much in...
  11. Teenagers on the Justice League is imo always a...

    Teenagers on the Justice League is imo always a bad idea (back then Cass was allready 18 or 19, current Cass maybe 16).

    Having her (or any other Batcharacter) on the team along side Batman is also...
  12. Thread: Batwoman (2019)

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    I have to agree, but considering that the views...

    I have to agree, but considering that the views usually drop significantly from the first to the second episode in any season and than keep dropping slowly through out the season, absolute numbers...
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    In BoP the main characters (at least during the...

    In BoP the main characters (at least during the Dixon run) was imo Black Canary.

    And while she was technically the information broker of the JLA I can't remember her appearing much in that book.
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  14. He was iirc worse in Justice League Europe (or...

    He was iirc worse in Justice League Europe (or was is one of the other JLI era books ...).
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    Are the other Batgirls more interesting? Steph...

    Are the other Batgirls more interesting?
    Steph as Batigirl is not that differnt to Barbara as Batgirl, the only unique thing she has is being the Daughter of Clue Master, but Clue Master is also not...
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    She was able to hold a book for roughly 100...

    She was able to hold a book for roughly 100 issues since Flashpoint (despite the often weak writing). And I'm pretty sure they will announce some form of Batgirl or Birds of Prey type book soon.

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    The difference is that Batgirl can have solo...

    The difference is that Batgirl can have solo stories, while the while as Oracle she need someone else (usually Black Canary) to be her legs.
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    Don't forget that Kate's Sister is also named...

    Don't forget that Kate's Sister is also named Beth, which makes the whole thing even more convoluted...
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    But would it be better with one of the other...

    But would it be better with one of the other Batgirls?
    Steph as Batgirl isn't that much different from Babs as Batgirl, and with Cass they seem to mostly redo her development from pre flashpoint.
  20. Nightwing didn't start in Blüdhaven until 2 years...

    Nightwing didn't start in Blüdhaven until 2 years after Zero Hour, around that time NTT got actually cancelled at and replace by the "1996 Titans" made up of entirely different characters.

    And at...
  21. I don't really see how Batman should have...

    I don't really see how Batman should have anything to do with the decay of NTT.
    Titans still had their own independent events post COIE (Titans Hunt and Total Chaos), while Batman was mostly in his...
  22. The problem with that is, that according to...

    The problem with that is, that according to Snyder DCEU Batman was retired for 10 years after the Death of Jason.

    With both Dick and Jason before that, Dick would have to be in his 30s and making...
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    At least if we are talking about the difference...

    At least if we are talking about the difference between Comichron Sales Numbers of DC vs. the ones of Marvel, it is pretty save to say that Moon Girl, Squirrel Girl and Ms Marvel are here not a...
  24. Snyders Batman was imo allready to old for that,...

    Snyders Batman was imo allready to old for that, since they would have technically also have to age up the rest of the Bat family and villains accordingly.
    Dick for example would have had to be...
  25. thing is by the time they could actually do Red...

    thing is by the time they could actually do Red Hood in the Pattison movies he would probaly to old for the role (and he is actually not much younger than Pattionson).

    Thats imo general kind of...
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