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  1. Thread: Dark Phoenix

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    Had it been two parts, they would have been...

    Had it been two parts, they would have been filmed simultaneously as one movie. So yeah, we would have seen part 2
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    Avatar to be sure. The Untouchables belongs...

    Avatar to be sure. The Untouchables belongs nowhere near this list.
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    Sales figures would tend to...disagree with this....

    Sales figures would tend to...disagree with this. Or is the suggestion there were so few people familiar with the previous story arcs? Or is it rather that people who resonated most closely with the...
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    Apparently it wasn't a very fan-favorite friendly...

    Apparently it wasn't a very fan-favorite friendly or old-timer friendly film either. Who exactly was this supposed to appeal to again?
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    I can't help but wonder what films the much...

    I can't help but wonder what films the much higher quality A Team marketers would have put this trailer in front of....
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    Tens of millions of people saw this trailer in...

    Tens of millions of people saw this trailer in theaters in front of two record-setting box office smashes, and knew perfectly well this was an X-Men film.


    https://youtu.be/q5v7Ch4bxzc
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    Dark Phoenix is the culmination of 20 years of...

    Dark Phoenix is the culmination of 20 years of X-Men films, and specifically this particular story was largely told once already. Even if you are completely unaware of any of the previous X-Men...
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    Just an anecdote: Not only do I not know who...

    Just an anecdote: Not only do I not know who Sophie Turner is, I don't know whether that's a character or an actor.

    Also, one of the reason you might not go all-in on marketing is when you...
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    Eh, Hawkeye is a bummer, but floating Thor is...

    Eh, Hawkeye is a bummer, but floating Thor is kinda...startling
  10. I am genuinely curious what you think is...

    I am genuinely curious what you think is distinctive about "the Marvel formula" from every other action/adventure movie since Predator. Or even James Bond.
  11. I'm critical of poorly-done movies. I don't care...

    I'm critical of poorly-done movies. I don't care if the logo is Marvel or DC or Dark Horse or whatever.

    Thor: Ragnarok and Man of Steel I'm equally critical of because they were crap movies. A...
  12. I'd take him over Burton in a New York minute for...

    I'd take him over Burton in a New York minute for a superhero movie. Let's be honest. Batman and Robin was not the worst Batman movie of that era.
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    That may all be true, but it doesn't affect any...

    That may all be true, but it doesn't affect any given movie's profitability. It's not a related budget. Doesn't matter what movie is being discussed or what the production company is or the...
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    With all due respect, Dark Phoenix was done after...

    With all due respect, Dark Phoenix was done after its first weekend. This past weekend wasn't the final nail in the coffin. It was everyone has left the graveyard.




    I'll admit that I don't...
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    Really? Assuming that we are cool with some broad...

    Really? Assuming that we are cool with some broad commonalities in order to structure a shared universe, I can't think of a single Marvel movie that doesn't have a personal aesthetic or voice of its...
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    None of these hold a candle to Mission:...

    None of these hold a candle to Mission: Impossible. The intro defined the series, even made the series. It's doubtful it would have lasted beyond a couple of seasons if not for this innovative,...
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    Hmm. Seems like a problem desperately looking for...

    Hmm. Seems like a problem desperately looking for a reason to justify its existence to me.
  18. Thread: Dark Phoenix

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    I think each of these statements would be...

    I think each of these statements would be difficult to validate. Anecdotal evidence, which proves nothing of course, would suggest to me that the reverse is actually more likely to be true.
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    Wow. Just wow. I weep for the future. This...

    Wow. Just wow. I weep for the future. This is...Wow.
  20. Poll: Actually I think that's why it means everything....

    Actually I think that's why it means everything.

    What is more significant in Gone With The Wind case is that there were only a handful of movies released all year.
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    I'm confused . How is that not smart and...

    I'm confused . How is that not smart and inventive? It's never really been done before, and it makes a ton of money. Inventive. Smart.

    It doesn't just mean "new stories"
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    Perhaps a bright shot in the summer...

    Perhaps a bright shot in the summer https://wapo.st/2N5DCa6
  23. Poll: I disliked season 3 most of all. I guess I...

    I disliked season 3 most of all. I guess I couldn't get past the ridiculous opening scene premise of a race that wants to destroy the earth testing a prototype, and vastly underpowered, version of...
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    But if you want in-story, then Steve watching...

    But if you want in-story, then Steve watching Peggy struggle in the hospital.
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    Not reprising their role, but it will be long...

    Not reprising their role, but it will be long enough before there's another X-Men film that one or more of them could do a wink-wink cameo a la Garrett Morris.
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