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    Are the obvious writing plotholes not a sin now?

    Are the obvious writing plotholes not a sin now?
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    I have no idea what you guys are talking about....

    I have no idea what you guys are talking about. That issue was just Clark straight up ignoring Wally and hiding the truth from him and using a race to do so. It's one of Clark's biggest failings as...
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    I'm personally talking about a long term...

    I'm personally talking about a long term storytelling scenario that revolves around Wally that could potentially segue into the character moving on.

    It's not hateful or disrespectful of Wally to...
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    The doom patrol crossover issue was pretty fun. ...

    The doom patrol crossover issue was pretty fun.

    The problem with the kids is no one had a plan for them when they came back. They just decided to bring Wally back out of the blue to buffer for...
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    How is kid drama even different from, say, Bart...

    How is kid drama even different from, say, Bart drama? We've seen Wally with young, reckless kids -- it was awesome! It was so good they gave Flash the first and only spinoff series it would ever...
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    Wally was plenty serious all throughout Waid's...

    Wally was plenty serious all throughout Waid's run too so I'm not really sure what you're getting at with that.

    Kids also tend to be more dramatically light compared to adult drama.

    One of the...
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    The thing that gets me is why people are so...

    The thing that gets me is why people are so hateful of Wally's kids because they debuted in, at worst, a few mediocre stories whereas Wally II had two years of pure garbage but everyone was willing...
  8. I get the point you're trying to make here, but...

    I get the point you're trying to make here, but the answer is yes. Even next generation characters like Wally and YJ are nostalgia at this point. The issue is the only reasonable way to move past all...
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    Poll: We already know the contents of the first issue...

    We already know the contents of the first issue and it's nothing engrossing. If you want this to impress you then your expectations are too high.

    I'm just annoyed that supporting Wally, right...
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    Poll: Yes, when Tom King asked Dan Didio which...

    Yes, when Tom King asked Dan Didio which character should be guilty of mass murder he chose Wally West. Great clarity on the situation, really puts Dan in a better light.
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    Writers very often don't know that editorial is...

    Writers very often don't know that editorial is planning a revamp or offing a character. Heck the originally brought on the TV show writers with the expectation that they'd be writing Barry, not...
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    Poll: I'm giving it a shot but it is completely in...

    I'm giving it a shot but it is completely in spite of my better judgment.
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    "Hey, what's this new Wally West series about?" ...

    "Hey, what's this new Wally West series about?"

    "Well, it's about Tempus Fuginaut."

    say what now
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    It's actually not that hard if you're willing to...

    It's actually not that hard if you're willing to age characters. That's where the problem always comes and why you get a lot of "Oh this was your secret kid from years ago" or "Oh wow your kid...
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    Didio has outright said that Bart's run was never...

    Didio has outright said that Bart's run was never intended to last.
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    The actor who seemed poised to play Wally was...

    The actor who seemed poised to play Wally was apparently for Brainwave Jr., so that rumor is dead as a doornail.
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    Really glad that Donna and Garth are finally...

    Really glad that Donna and Garth are finally getting their due. Real sad that Roy and Wally will get left out because of their mediocre and, at this point largely discarded and pointless, CW versions.
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    Wally is certainly not more popular in any poll...

    Wally is certainly not more popular in any poll that would include a significant portion of people. Even just on comics fans alone these days Barry has more fans, just less of them trompsing around,...
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    I don't know what vague gap or poll you're...

    I don't know what vague gap or poll you're talking about but Wally, even now, crushes popularity polls because a lot of his fans are whiny, vocal, and online.

    There was just nearly no call for...
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    When Barry came back the overwhelming majority...

    When Barry came back the overwhelming majority preferred Wally. Though those fans are long gone
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    I changed my grammar but I feel like, at this...

    I changed my grammar but I feel like, at this point, you're being needlessly obtuse. Yes, fictional characters can't do anything because they're not real. But I'm absolutely sure you know exactly...
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    I get you're trying to be dismissive but yes, it...

    I get you're trying to be dismissive but yes, it is one in a list of dozens of things that removes Wally from any relevance to the franchise. Now Turtle, as he was in Johns' run, is that way...
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    That mini series is not going to fix anything....

    That mini series is not going to fix anything. Based on everything Lobdell's said it's about to be a big load of nothing, going nowhere, fixing little. It just accepts all the garbage.

    Wally...
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    Why is this about the creative team? I understand...

    Why is this about the creative team? I understand this is an editorial edict. But if that was the option then I'd much rather they didn't use Hartley until Wally was no longer off limits. Then use...
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    Look, I get that the idea in the offices isn't...

    Look, I get that the idea in the offices isn't always, "What can we do to screw over Wally?" though looking at how they're super proud of Heroes In Crisis and that what happened to Wally was entirely...
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